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Brainiac Five posted:The New Deal wasn't written by leftists, though, so this comparison is itself strange. Hey look, two ideas that don't need to be conjoined at all were stuck together to make a specious point! We can absolutely punish financial malfeasance without having to restrict credit, unless the credit was directly generated by financial malfeasance and then its all living on borrowed time anyways and when the bubble eventually bursts RIP your communities regardless. Its super weird that the response to 'Hey we should punish the financiers who are destroying the country and/or make them pay their share into the system' is always 'WHY DO YOU HATE BLACK PEOPLE!?'.
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Not a Step posted:Hey look, two ideas that don't need to be conjoined at all were stuck together to make a specious point! We can absolutely punish financial malfeasance without having to restrict credit, unless the credit was directly generated by financial malfeasance and then its all living on borrowed time anyways and when the bubble eventually bursts RIP your communities regardless. Cool, a ignoramus obsessed with disciplining and punishing.
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Brainiac Five posted:Cool, a ignoramus obsessed with disciplining and punishing. You say that like its a bad thing to want to punish those responsible for hoarding the wealth of the nation and indirectly causing grief and destruction to millions. Although I guess your views do make sense if you think Capital Did Nothing Wrong.
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Not a Step posted:You say that like its a bad thing to want to punish those responsible for hoarding the wealth of the nation and indirectly causing grief and destruction to millions. Although I guess your views do make sense if you think Capital Did Nothing Wrong. Yeah it's a bad thing to masturbate to the prospect of people getting raped in prison, IMO. Hell, focusing on revolutionary violence as self-justifying rather than instrumental is bad too.
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Brainiac Five posted:Yeah it's a bad thing to masturbate to the prospect of people getting raped in prison, IMO. Hell, focusing on revolutionary violence as self-justifying rather than instrumental is bad too. Just lol if you think rich people go to rape prisons, even in the fantasy world where rich people face consequences for anything at all in the first place. Which apparently you're cool with never happening. Good to know.
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Not a Step posted:Just lol if you think rich people go to rape prisons, even in the fantasy world where rich people face consequences for anything at all in the first place. Which apparently you're cool with never happening. Good to know. Okay, so even in your fantasies you're ineffectual and impotent. Good lord.
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Brainiac Five posted:Yeah it's a bad thing to masturbate to the prospect of people getting raped in prison, IMO. Hell, focusing on revolutionary violence as self-justifying rather than instrumental is bad too. Nobody has advocated either of these things here.
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Mar 17, 2017 18:51
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Brainiac Five posted:Yeah it's a bad thing to masturbate to the prospect of people getting raped in prison, IMO. Hell, focusing on revolutionary violence as self-justifying rather than instrumental is bad too. You deserve to be banned and probated for a year. I honestly cannot understand why the mods let you post.
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Mar 17, 2017 19:02
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Brainiac Five posted:Cool, a ignoramus obsessed with disciplining and punishing. People like the idea that those go commit evil are punished. It's good to play to that expectation.
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Mar 17, 2017 19:21
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Crowsbeak posted:People like the idea that those go commit evil are punished. It's good to play to that expectation. Or, even more precisely, that Democratic governments will be as keen on prosecuting criminal billionaires, as Republican governments are on persecuting undocumented workers.
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Mar 17, 2017 19:40
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Majorian posted:Nobody has advocated either of these things here. Sure they have, by advocating imprisonment in the American prison system and by saying doing so is self-justifying. That you all want to run away from the consequences is a good sign, but you'd do better to face them.
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Mar 17, 2017 20:17
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i think hanging every wealthy person from the lamp posts of new york is much more just than jail time for bankers
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Mar 17, 2017 20:37
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[bernie voice] We must reform our criminal justice system so that white collar criminals receive their fair share of prison rapes!! [/bernie voice]
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The Kingfish posted:You deserve to be banned and probated for a year. I honestly cannot understand why the mods let you post. Report and move on imo. Responding to their toxic white noise only further shits up threads
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Famethrowa posted:Report and move on imo. Responding to their toxic white noise only further shits up threads "Toxic white noise" It turns out you can just throw whatever words together and as long as they sound bad you don't have to worry about them "making sense" or other leeberal notions like that.
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Trumps budget, and the fact that he's basically abandoning his voters should be an obvious point of attack. Also that his focus on terrorism isn't compatible with cuts to state and aide and a buildup of aircraft carriers. You don't fight terrorists with aircraft carriers.
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asdf32 posted:Also that his focus on terrorism isn't compatible with cuts to state and aide and a buildup of aircraft carriers. You don't fight terrorists with aircraft carriers. Also that under his administration indiscriminate drone strikes have upped the civilian mortality rate by horrifying numbers and that has already started to see Middle Eastern survivors swear revenge on the United States. Combined with the analyses that suggest that radicalisation tended to be home-grown in the US over the actions of the US overseas, his administration seems to be doing everything possible to bring terrorism home for a victory tour.
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It's funny how the cruelty of the American justice system only magically becomes an impediment to imprisoning rich people. I don't ever see liberals take this "oh we can't punish anyone for any crimes until we figure out what's going on" approach to criminals who aren't in the top 0.1% of earners. Democrats imprison non-rich people without clutching any pearls at all, so until I see some Democratic politicians putting a moratorium on all criminal prosecutions of the rich and non-rich alike to work on prison reform, I'm just going to treat the argument like the favoritism for the rich that it really is. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Mar 18, 2017 |
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Mar 18, 2017 08:27
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VitalSigns posted:It's funny how the cruelty of the American justice system only magically becomes an impediment to imprisoning rich people. rich people crimes are barely crimes at all. i mean who does insider trading hurt? no-one! shoplifting on the other hand is extremely destructive and causes billions of dollars in losses every year! that's why white collar criminals shouldn't go to prison, while shoplifters should! /s
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VitalSigns posted:It's funny how the cruelty of the American justice system only magically becomes an impediment to imprisoning rich people. Alternatively, you could consider the relationship that argument has to your arguments about what *flicks Gauloise* liberals believe. I mean, since you decided to bravely forge ahead with a stance of indifference to suffering, I don't think you're capable of seeing other people as fully human such that you could recognize how your arguments rely on absurdly hideous caricatures, and I feel sorry for all the people you must abuse and mistreat on a daily basis, based on your posts here.
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Mar 18, 2017 16:10
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Effectronica is a beta fish posting with his monitor off.
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Mar 18, 2017 16:19
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The Kingfish posted:Effectronica is a beta fish posting with his monitor off. It's pretty rich you whine about how the mods favor me when you're free to make posts like this, rather than being driven like the cockroach you are back to the sanctuary of C-SPAM and your fellow vermin.
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Mar 18, 2017 16:21
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Brainiac Five posted:It's pretty rich you whine about how the mods favor me when you're free to make posts like this, rather than being driven like the cockroach you are back to the sanctuary of C-SPAM and your fellow vermin. That's because everyone knows that your posts are so monstrously terrible and pointless that even tedious meta posting about them is allowed apparently.
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Mar 18, 2017 18:12
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Haha wait, is the new DND consensus that Cspam is a horrific alt-right dudebrocialist hive now? What was the name of that liberal comedian who went full on anti-arab after 9/11, I think Trump's broken brains in a way like his was
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Neurolimal posted:Haha wait, is the new DND consensus that Cspam is a horrific alt-right dudebrocialist hive now? I believe the view is that it's shitposting and low-effort thought, not any particular worldview.
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Tesseraction posted:I believe the view is that it's shitposting and low-effort thought, not any particular worldview. That would be a pretty terrible view, since C-spam is pretty great. Shitposting is allowed but the mods do a good job of punishing unfunny ones, and having read D&D threads for years I can say that there isn't any less effort put into the thoughts in C-SPAM, just a lot less verbose.
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the new dem anti-trump strategy: bring back hillary clinton!! surely what failed once is assured to succeed the second time!
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Fiction posted:That's because everyone knows that your posts are so monstrously terrible and pointless that even tedious meta posting about them is allowed apparently. Oh look, one of the rats decided to crawl out of the wall.
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I don't find the assertion that we didn't prosecute bankers for committing crimes because of humanitarian concerns about the US prison system very convincing, because Obama's DOJ had zero problem sentencing thousands of people to federal prison for possessing a plant. So clearly the federal prison system as it exists now is good enough for the poor in the eyes of the Obama administration. Unless of course the humanitarian argument for exempting the rich from the justice system has a corollary that liberals don't consider anyone outside the top 0.1% fully human, if that's the case you're making you might be on to something. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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VitalSigns posted:I don't find the assertion that we didn't prosecute bankers for committing crimes because of humanitarian concerns about the US prison system very convincing, because Obama's DOJ had zero problem [url="https://www.thenation.com/article/obamas-war-pot/"sentencing thousands of people to federal prison for possessing a plant[/url]. That assertion has not been made and will never be made. You're punching a big ol' bag of straw with "liberal" scrawled on it. You don't seem to get the point that your assertions about what other people believe are on the same level as believing that someone is a rapist-by-proxy for wanting to punish white-collar criminals.
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I mean, like, you keep digging yourself in by screeching like a mynah bird about how liberals are genocidal monsters but you're not even willing to frame them for crimes so that the state apparatus can murder them and their families, or at least kill their pets. Or take any other kind of direct action, which would seem to be morally necessary based on your posts. It's almost as if all your posting is built on a desire to shame people but you don't have the brains to do it so you fall back on squeaking about how that uppity Obama was pure evil.
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Oh you're a crazy person. I see. Nevermind.
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