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If there is one thing that confused me it was when Calvin first got hostile and everyone was freaking out like "get him out of there!!" and I was just sitting there going "what the gently caress is wrong with you people? were you not briefed on quarantine procedures or some poo poo?" To this day the only story I can think of that actually deals with stuff like that in a more "realistic" way is The Andromeda Strain, where they actually explain the Fifth Man protocol they are operating under. I understand that in times of high stress and life or death situations people do stupid poo poo but I was absolutely amazed at the lack of protocol, this isn't loving Star Trek you have to be pretty mentally tough to go on space missions.
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What bugged me is that just grabbing the unconscious astronaut, reeling him out & locking the lab down while the rat was being digested would have stopped things. No need to try to kill Calvin directly.
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Apr 10, 2017 01:58
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God Hole posted:Why exactly did Calvin deliberately exit the space station during the coolant drowning scene, though? It's illustrated that while he's resilient, he still needs air to live, so purposefully exiting the station into the vacuum of space to kill one person seems like idiotic behavior for a creature characterized as otherwise intelligent and motivated by survival. Cal is intelligent, but not educated. He has no idea that space is a vacuum until he experiences it firsthand. Also, whatever air there was inside the coolant tank escaped when it was opened. Cal latched onto the astronaut specifically because he was experiencing suffocation for the first time.
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Apr 10, 2017 02:59
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Okay movie, fantastic soundtrack. I did think it was pretty goddamn stupid of them to make plans and such without filling in the Japanese character. Like, try and contact him? See what's up? Fill him in on stuff so he won't do something terribly rash? Also, while it was a gorgeous movie to look at, I wish they'd gone all the way with the Gravity-esthetics and done the same sound-design. Hearing sounds in space post-Gravity in movies that intentionally want to look realistic rubs me the wrong way. BigglesSWE fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Apr 10, 2017 |
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Apr 10, 2017 12:07
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dont even fink about it posted:Calvin could even have the capacity for benevolence, or at least a sense of humor; he lets Jake Gyllenhaal live, after all, and that probably has a lot to do with Calvin understanding that Jake needs to go home. Haha, I didn't pick up on this in the slightest, thats kinda twisted.
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Apr 10, 2017 20:38
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Macarius Wrench posted:Haha, I didn't pick up on this in the slightest, thats kinda twisted. LOL if you think Jake Gyllenhaal's character survived a second longer than it took for Calvin to spring his ambush on the people that opened the hatch.
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dont even fink about it posted:Calvin could even have the capacity for benevolence, or at least a sense of humor; he lets Jake Gyllenhaal live, after all, and that probably has a lot to do with Calvin understanding that Jake needs to go home. Macarius Wrench posted:Haha, I didn't pick up on this in the slightest, thats kinda twisted. biracial bear for uncut posted:LOL if you think Jake Gyllenhaal's character survived a second longer than it took for Calvin to spring his ambush on the people that opened the hatch. I thought it was wrestling with Jake in the pod, but became more concerned with the turbulent ride of the pod. When you see Jake in the pod after landing Calvin apparently decided to evolve in a few minutes into the same crap covering the city in the Super Mario Bros movie and spread himself around to brace himself.
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Apr 11, 2017 06:14
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biracial bear for uncut posted:LOL if you think Jake Gyllenhaal's character survived a second longer than it took for Calvin to spring his ambush on the people that opened the hatch. I don't know that Calvin is all that big of a problem in an environment with gravity.
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BigglesSWE posted:I did think it was pretty goddamn stupid of them to make plans and such without filling in the Japanese character. Like, try and contact him? See what's up? Fill him in on stuff so he won't do something terribly rash? Yeah, it was another case of the characters behaving inconsistently for the sake of moving the plot forwards. If he hadn't that would have been the end of the movie. If we're going to make comparison's then something that Alien had up on this movie is that the writers didn't keep writing themselves into dead-ends that they had to find increasingly implausible solutions too.
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Apr 11, 2017 07:17
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Zeris posted:Yeah, same here. It was really exciting at first to imagine what it might become next, and like 2/3 of the way through when I realized that thread wouldn't develop any further, it felt really disappointing. Cacator posted:The way he slowly gets more uncomfortable and takes his earpiece off before he starts coughing up blood was pretty effective I thought. But otherwise aside from the broken hand it was clearly lacking in the body horror, luckily I am watching The Void tonight which should make up for it. Oh the death was horrible, I was just expecting something to happen after he stopped moving. And then it didn't so I was a little sad. All the talk of his cells doing everything had me going 'and reproducing?' but then they struggled with one of him so multiples would've been game over pretty quickly.
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Wait wait wait, people are liking the ending? I was loving it until they pulled a shell game. There's no reason for Miranda to go hurtling into space. I felt like the director was giving me the finger.
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Metrofreak posted:Wait wait wait, people are liking the ending? I was loving it until they pulled a shell game. There's no reason for Miranda to go hurtling into space. But but bu-~ Twists?!! Yeah there was a lot of laughing going on in the theater at that twist.
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Apr 11, 2017 10:50
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I liked it purely because it's not a Hollywood ending.
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Metrofreak posted:Wait wait wait, people are liking the ending? I was loving it until they pulled a shell game. There's no reason for Miranda to go hurtling into space. You pretty clearly see the control system malfunction, reboot and kick over into manual controls while Miranda is freaking out, so there is a reason. The characters just picked the wrong capsules.
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Apr 11, 2017 13:54
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I liked it purely because it's not a Hollywood ending. It's how every Hollywood horror movie ends so only in the most technical sense
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DeimosRising posted:It's how every Hollywood horror movie ends so only in the most technical sense I've barely watched any horror films, but I was under the impression that most of them ended with "and so the evil monster was defeated... OR WAS IT? *cue hand rising from the grave before cutting to credits*", as opposed to "and so the evil monster completely unambiguously emerged victorious and destroyed all life on earth, converting the planet into an alien colony it would go on to reign over for hundreds of millions of years", which is how this one ended.
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Izzhov posted:I've barely watched any horror films, but I was under the impression that most of them ended with "and so the evil monster was defeated... OR WAS IT? *cue hand rising from the grave before cutting to credits*", as opposed to "and so the evil monster completely unambiguously emerged victorious and destroyed all life on earth, converting the planet into an alien colony it would go on to reign over for hundreds of millions of years", which is how this one ended. I don't remember seeing it in the movie but one of the trailers had the crippled doctor speculating that Calvin's kind wiped out life on Mars and then went dormant, so if that's the case I think Calvin's more into rampant consumerism for the sake of annihilation. Does Calvin have a limit at how big he gets? It looked like he started as a dormant spore/single cell so I'm guessing he replicates via apomixis or something.
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God Hole posted:I don't remember seeing it in the movie but one of the trailers had the crippled doctor speculating that Calvin's kind wiped out life on Mars and then went dormant, so if that's the case I think Calvin's more into rampant consumerism for the sake of annihilation. Calvin is a union of independently-viable single-celled organisms. His kind never needed to evolve specialized cells to be a true multicellular organism because all of his cells can do it all, which implies each one can reproduce independently. As something more like a grex than an animal, he might disincorporate once he's in a more friendly environment. It's possible that's what we're seeing in the pod after it lands.
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God Hole posted:I don't remember seeing it in the movie but one of the trailers had the crippled doctor speculating that Calvin's kind wiped out life on Mars and then went dormant, so if that's the case I think Calvin's more into rampant consumerism for the sake of annihilation. I distinctly remember a line in the movie that was something like, "these things could have dominated Mars for a hundred million years!"
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biracial bear for uncut posted:You pretty clearly see the control system malfunction, reboot and kick over into manual controls while Miranda is freaking out, so there is a reason. Do you really? Cause I don't recall that at all. I recall David flipping a buncha stuff to manual, and the projected trajectory altering from a tangential descent into 'lol up' Meanwhile, Miranda's just punching buttons and not touching the stick, and her projected flight sim path is still a nice downwards arc. She's recording a message for the black box 'in case I die on re-entry', and they've established that without human input, auto-pilot will take you down to earth. So I have no reason to expect her to gently caress with the auto pilot.
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while all true I can't remember if they show distinctly if it is her pod or David's that collides with the debris. I kinda figured it was hers since when the reveal occurs and we cut back to her just spinning into the aether and it shows a system malfunction that even if she switched to manual to attempt to steer herself back to a landing trajectory without a guidance system she has no loving clue how to know if she's going in the proper direction. Of course the score also helped sell the switch so it worked for me 
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Metrofreak posted:Do you really? Cause I don't recall that at all. I recall David flipping a buncha stuff to manual, and the projected trajectory altering from a tangential descent into 'lol up' One of the pods get hit by debris and hosed up and the ending makes it retrospectively clear it's Miranda's. Sir Kodiak posted:Calvin is a union of independently-viable single-celled organisms. His kind never needed to evolve specialized cells to be a true multicellular organism because all of his cells can do it all, which implies each one can reproduce independently. As something more like a grex than an animal, he might disincorporate once he's in a more friendly environment. It's possible that's what we're seeing in the pod after it lands. By the time Calvin's 'mature' he seems to have developed differentiated organs of some sort — eyes, limbs, maybe internal structures. His volume is going to grow much faster than his surface area and eventually he'll need systems to take in oxygen, pump it, and get rid of the waste.
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If they make a sequel it better loving be called Life On Earth
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General Battuta posted:If they make a sequel it better loving be called Life On Earth Or Venom.
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Was this the movie people speculated was a backdoor Venom movie or that Life was a fake title ala Blue Harvest
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Metrofreak posted:Wait wait wait, people are liking the ending? I was loving it until they pulled a shell game. There's no reason for Miranda to go hurtling into space. She got in there by mistake. Calvin was meant to get into that and spend the rest of his life on that one-man prison vessel, posing no further threat to children on Earth. It was the one thing they didn't want to happen.
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Finally saw this and liked it a lot. Nice little realistic-style space horror. Only grief was the biologist guy who immediately thinks unknown alien lifeforms are house pets. I couldn't believe they were poking at it with the only thing between it and his hand being a thick rubber glove. And then when he has the bright idea to electrocute it, I was pretty much just loling. Also the astronauts that don't understand quarantine. Great sciencing, guys. Enjoyable movie, though, would love to see a sequel.
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Is this movie about knockin boots in a space suit?
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Warm und Fuzzy posted:Is this movie about knockin boots in a space suit? Nope. It's about a space monster crawling down your throat and scooping your insides out and eating them.
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So is this movie better than the new Alien?
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Monglo posted:So is this movie better than the new Alien? No, it's pretty good, but it's not that good.
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Dan Didio posted:She got in there by mistake. Calvin was meant to get into that and spend the rest of his life on that one-man prison vessel, posing no further threat to children on Earth. It was the one thing they didn't want to happen. Except, she waited until David was already in his own pod with Cal as planned. It's not like she accidentally stole his ride or anything. He was already on his way out from the station before she got her pod powered up. The whole thing went off pretty much without a hitch until Cal took the controls and the debris messed with her trajectory.
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Seems pretty obvious to me that this movie came about because the writer came up with the twist first. Reminded me of Pandorum in that way. Overall a pretty mediocre movie, decent effects and kind of a novel idea for an alien but this isn't something I'll be remembering a few months from now. Also did I spot a plot hole or after they trap Calvin in the airlock with the corpse of paralyzed science man they start venting oxygen out of that area to kill Calvin, then Sanada's character comes out of his little sleep pod thing and just casually opens the hatch to the airlock where Calvin is and.. nothing happens? Did they stop venting the O2 or what?
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The creature is called Calvin in reference to Calvinism because the humans are predestined to gently caress up whatever they try. Alternatively, in the sequel, the creature evolves enough intelligence to realise that rampant growth is unsustainable, and decides to learn to communicate and teaches all the humans important lessons about caring for the environment. Fangz fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Jun 20, 2017 |
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I like the monster a lot but I wish it hadn't grown a face and visible symmetry, it was terrifying as a mass of undifferentiated limbs.
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Finally got a chance to see this, and it felt pretty by the numbers, it was still a fun little time-waster. A few things were 'stupid convenient' heavily to like, give Calvin a mulligan, like the quarantine officer being the only one that knew Soyuz was failsafe 3 (to be fair, I don't know anything about space quarantine protocol but 'if all else fails, Soyuz will push us out of orbit' seems like something the whole crew would briefed on) My one question, and maybe I got distracted, but when Hugh went into cardiac arrest and they realized Calvin had been noshing on his leg, was that like a Calvin #2 that had divided off the 'main' organism and had been feeding off of him since it first broke out of containment? My main gripe was that none of the characters really felt all that fleshed out.
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I had fun watching this movie, but yea it's not going to be memorable in the end because none of the characters stand out. I suppose Gyllenhall and Reynolds worked against it in the sense that they just kinda feel like Jake Gyllenhall and Ryan Reynolds on a space ship and they aren't really differentiated in any meaningful way. Still, there are some very, very tense scenes and the monster is very well done. Definitely worth the $5 rental just for some disposable entertainment. Plus the Re-animator shout out.
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That was the best episode of The Twilight Zone/ Outer Limits I've ever watched Also if it somehow turns out to be a Venom prequel origin story than I will laugh and congratulate them for tricking me into watching a comicbook movie
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