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I think finding out that Mia of all people betrayed him was what changed Light from little wimp who followed his murder girlfriend around like a lost puppy to a cold chessmaster willing to exploit anyone to get what he wants in the vein of the anime's Light. In the first part of the movie he tried to work with L, and when that didn't fail wanted to temporarily hijack Watari without killing him just so he could get L off of his back. After finding out his own life is on the line, he was willing to kill not only Mia but also two innocents just to stay alive and get the book back without any blood on "his" hands. If he was still the Light from the first act, he probably would've had the whole book fall into the oil barrel and ruin Ryuk's game. I could believe that a Light betrayed by the one person who he trusts and knowing his days are numbered could put on a poker face until his plan worked. Honestly, if they didn't play so many cards from the series already, I could see this working as an (admittedly unnecessary) origin story of sorts.
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That's an interesting similarity between Yagami and Turner. Manga/Anime Light had similar trust in a blatant monster, namely Ryuk. Ryuk is he real power of Death Note as he can do anything he wants whenever he wants. He even warns Light several times that "I'm not on you rside."Yet when Light is cornered, he turns to Ryuk for help...and Ryuk promptly makes good on his threat to end the game when Light can no longer amuse him. What is Film Ryuk doing at the end of the movie? Also, if their goal was to make Light more "sympathetic" or whatever, I think they were wasting their time. Light's fanbase exists precisely because he is a charismatic authority figure. He has a plan, a dream, and nothing on this Earth will stop him.People are attracted to things like that. Making him more wishy-washy, being goaded into becoming Kira or whatever, will just turn people off.
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Sep 7, 2017 20:47
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I can't speak to "more" sympathetic, but they obviously weren't trying to make him sympathetic. He's made pathetic, which isn't the same thing.
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Sep 7, 2017 20:52
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I really enjoyed it, I thought it got a bit convoluted towards the end but overall it was great,amazing special effects and the main character had some great screaming scenes. Even my mum enjoyed it and she hates scary stuff,i assume there'll be another one at some point?
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Sep 8, 2017 23:29
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I saw this yesterday and liked it a lot. I wasn't familiar with the manga/anime until reading a bit about it after seeing the movie but they seemed to actually do a really good job setting this in the US thematically beyond just having it take place here. Still if they do more with this I'd rather just see them forget about the book and just have a series about this version of L rolling around solving supernatural crime.
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Sep 8, 2017 23:49
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I'm fairly ambivalent on the Death Note anime but it does have some great orchestral music at times. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d9ZWTjMo3Y
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Sep 9, 2017 19:47
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Finally saw it. Was way better than expected, but in hindsight that should have been obvious. Pretty much every negative thing I've heard is a variant of "B-U-U--UTT THE ANIME!?" Also, Tuxedo Catfish, you point about the racial politics of the movie really made some scenes shine. The fact that the only one trying to catch Light in the chase scene to the Ferris wheel is L is pretty brilliant. Of course the police wouldn't listen to an antifa looking guy like L. Meanwhile Light is terrified that everyone is after him, when really they'r trying to protect him. And he even grabs Ls gun! It's stupidly obvious that he's guilty, but of course no one wants to believe it. He's
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I really loved that too because L isn't just an eccentric dude, he's canonically from the way the movie describes his upbringing the single best person on the planet at solving crime and figuring out stuff like this. Established as The World's Greatest Detective. Yet for some strange reason no one believes him hmm...
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Sep 10, 2017 06:00
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My Google feed has been blowing up with hatred for this film. When there's a universal internet intelligensia backlash against something I usually give it a look. Was glad I did. This is silly and shlocky but it's entertaining and has a few interesting things to say about America, race, and youth. It's not some unwatchable shitshow. I liked it ok and would like to see a sequel. Also nice to have the Green Goblin back in action.
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Director Adam Wingard deleted his twitter account because he was getting swamped with harassment and death threats. http://comicbook.com/anime/2017/09/12/death-note-adam-wingard-twitter-delete/ I'm sorry, Adam. 
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loving Internet. It's terrible, but public facing people really need a middle-person managing their social media. It's the same way you'd have a person sorting through the fan letters of yore to weed out the nutjobs.
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Donnerberg posted:loving Internet. It's terrible, but public facing people really need a middle-person managing their social media. It's the same way you'd have a person sorting through the fan letters of yore to weed out the nutjobs. Yeah. Or don't accept direct messages from randos and don't read your mentions. Treat it as a broadcast medium.
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Donnerberg posted:loving Internet. It's terrible, but public facing people really need a middle-person managing their social media. It's the same way you'd have a person sorting through the fan letters of yore to weed out the nutjobs. Until that middle person Likes a porn tweet in your name.
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Really didn't care for this adaptation. I get what they were going for, but the genre change just wasn't for me. On the other hand, it got me curious about looking into other adaptations of Death Note, and found Death Note the Musical: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot5mr2Abr00 Which surprisingly ended up owning super hard.
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Sep 14, 2017 02:09
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Accretionist posted:I think she did a lot. He's reactive, she's proactive and they mutually-reinforced until that difference came to a head. I believe it is the opposite, as she the one always pushing him to react to the tv. His plan was proactive, by attacking L through his assistant. Both of them were willing to kill the innocent, which makes Lights moral struggle in act 2 confusing, as from begining to end, his choices have always been selfish. The film would have been better if it leaned on that, showing his disrespect for her intelligence, giving us the chessmaster fans were expecting from the IP; but the impression it gave was that he was scared to act, reactive, as you said. that impression was even bolster by contrasting it with what L was doing.
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Roth posted:Really didn't care for this adaptation. I get what they were going for, but the genre change just wasn't for me. The musical is pretty nice! There's also a Korean version which I haven't seen yet but I've heard it's also pretty good (and it's miles ahead than what the TV Drama did with some of its characters). Siselmo fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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What was up with that chase scene between L. and Light? It was like they tried to cram every single cliche in there (pushing people aside, throwing stuff on the floor etc.) and make it over the top, but kinda on purpose? It really took me out of the movie for a second, which rarely happens.
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Sep 27, 2017 09:30
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It owned and was one of the coolest looking things in the movie.
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I dug the chase scene a lot.
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My favorite part of the chase scene was where L pushed that one guy's face into his mashed potatoes for literally no reason
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Squashing Machine posted:My favorite part of the chase scene was where L pushed that one guy's face into his mashed potatoes for literally no reason That was exactly the part that made me go "What?". Just to clarify, I'm not saying I didn't like it, I just felt like there was something there that I didn't get because it seemed so intentionally exaggerated.
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I went in blind and quickly adjusted myself to watching this whole thing as a gentle satirical piece, like a good bad movie. And it was moderately fun. Don't know how y'all have been watching it seriously.
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why didn't they change lights name? Ignoring the whole characterization arguments it just sounds stupid when it's in a movie and not an anime.
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Stairmaster posted:why didn't they change lights name? Ignoring the whole characterization arguments it just sounds stupid when it's in a movie and not an anime. And handwaved it by saying that his dead mom was a hippie. Movie bad, Ryuk good.
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Stairmaster posted:why didn't they change lights name? Ignoring the whole characterization arguments it just sounds stupid when it's in a movie and not an anime. It sounded stupid in the Anime also. Is his name a real name that people have in Japanese, or is it just stupid across the board?
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Inzombiac posted:And handwaved it by saying that his dead mom was a hippie. Why would it require any more explanation than that?
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I decided to toss this on last night, and I concur that it's a trashy good time and a fun watch if you're not all  BUT ANIMESI got a good laugh out of the "L is real?" line early on.
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When making an adaptation, you have the option of being respectful or disrespectful of the source material. I admire the courage to perform the latter.
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Phobophilia posted:When making an adaptation, you have the option of being respectful or disrespectful of the source material. I admire the courage to perform the latter. I like it when it's like Starship Troopers or The Lost World where it goes into full on satire of the source. This doesn't quite go that far.
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I'm a fan of the original series, and honestly. 99% of the critique kind of misses the point but this review is hillarious and sums up everything wrong with this film and the stupidity of the script. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl6btU2QgHI I cracked up several times. I'm not the kind to get all autistic about adaptations, it's better to be consistant with themes and motives than trying to follow a plotine to the letter. But this movie failed on so many level to get even the basics right.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:I'm a fan of the original series, and honestly. 99% of the critique kind of misses the point but this review is hillarious and sums up everything wrong with this film and the stupidity of the script. This guy is... Honestly kind of dumb. Jumped around a bit, and while he picked up on the occasional plot hole that should have been fixed (the watari thing, for example) he has an equal number of just stupid as poo poo complaints that are plainly addressed in the film. My favourite is his confusion about the fact that light doesn't want to kill watari. This is super easy to understand because light sees himself as a good guy and watari as an innocent. He only goes after L at all because it is kill or be killed the hypocrisy is the loving point. Likewise he goes on a tangent about Mia wanting to pass on the seven day rule, despite the fact that the seven day ownership rule is a use it or lose it situation, not one about transferring ownership intentionally. Caros fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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It's important that the Netflix movie not do anything different. It needs to be a perfect adaptation, otherwise where else is a Death Note fan supposed to get one?quote:An anime television adaptation aired in Japan from October 3, 2006 to June 26, 2007. Composed of 37 episodes, the anime was developed by Madhouse and directed by Tetsuro Araki. A light novel based on the series, written by Nisio Isin, was also released in 2006. Additionally, various video games have been published by Konami for the Nintendo DS. The series was adapted into three live-action films released in Japan on June 17, 2006, November 3, 2006, and February 2, 2008, and a television drama in 2015. A miniseries entitled Death Note: New Generation and a fourth film were released in 2016.
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Oh god, Nisio Isin wrote a Death Note light novel? Wonder where the sexualized children are in it. (Nisio Isin, for the uninitiated, is a guy who writes artsy weird poo poo and is also a massive loving pedo. He's mostly known for the series Bakemonogatari, which started out as an artsy weird series about a guy helping out supernaturally-afflicted girls and got some critical acclaim here, but then took a hard left turn into softcore kiddy porn as the seasons went on and proceeded to set all of its goodwill on fire.)
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It is difficult to imagine porn as boring as Bakemonogatari. edit: Wait a minute I've watched Frankenqueen. Frame of reference has been established. Terrible Opinions fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Oct 17, 2017 |
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Lobok posted:It's important that the Netflix movie not do anything different. It needs to be a perfect adaptation, otherwise where else is a Death Note fan supposed to get one? I will honestly say that I think the anime is a bad adaptation of the manga that doesn't get the tone right at all.
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