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Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

Soricidus posted:

nah

here�s my javafx experience:

PHASE 1
oh hey this is really cool. we can just make a scene graph with our stuff and let it render things nicely

oh poo poo as soon as the scene gets remotely complex everything slows to a crawl because it�s applying css very slowly to everything. and trying to dynamically add/remove stuff when it�s offscreen doesn�t help because you have to apply all the css before you know how big anything is, and that takes actual minutes

PHASE 2
ok we can just use a canvas and draw our own stuff. it�s fast and looks good!

oh wait the canvas api is so half assed as to be useless. like you can draw a string, but there is literally no way to find out how much space the string you drew is taking up. you can approximate it by using loving awt font metrics of all things but the results are subtly wrong because javafx font rendering is different. the poo poo part is that all the apis you need exist, they�re just private and have remained private despite a bug asking for a public javafx font metrics api having been open since approximately 30 seconds after the first javafx release

PHASE 3
phew, our javafx app finally works properly and fast. except idk why we�re still using javafx because the way it works is to use java2d to render to bitmaps which are then blitted to a canvas

man i don't know why you're messing with a bunch of css bullshit

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akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

css is just fine

just build an electron app instead of a java app

# ? Oct 17, 2017 22:03

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

just use javascript and gtk

ezpz

# ? Oct 18, 2017 00:14

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

akadajet posted:

css is just fine

just build an electron app instead of a java app

lol

# ? Oct 18, 2017 01:21

Ellie Crabcakes: Feb 1, 2008; Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

This is a romantic comedy waiting to happen. Flip a coin for who gets to be played by Gerard Butler.

# ? Oct 18, 2017 02:33

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

apparently java's going to have green threads again

i say again cause apparently java had them back in 1.1, but got rid of them in favor of native threading. now it'll have both

# ? Oct 19, 2017 21:25

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

does kotlin do anything to make it a language instead of a slang?

i used it and liked it but all i see is sugar over java. to me kotlin is to java like coffeescript is to javascript except its good. there were no new concepts in kotlin iirc.

not sure what you're looking for in language features other than null safety, inline functions, and anonymous function blocks with receivers.

unlike coffeescript, kotlin doesnt compile to java but it compiles to jvm bytecode directly.

# ? Oct 19, 2017 21:36

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

coffeescript is also bad, unlike javascript

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JewKiller 3000: Nov 28, 2006; by Lowtax

javascript isn't bad, it's horrible

# ? Oct 20, 2017 01:48

Marx Headroom: May 10, 2007; AT LAST! A show with nonono ~~commercials~~!; Fallen Rib

just installed JRE looking forward to this thread

# ? Oct 20, 2017 02:02

Marx Headroom: May 10, 2007; AT LAST! A show with nonono ~~commercials~~!; Fallen Rib

my computer is asking whether I want to upgrade java can anyone assist

# ? Oct 20, 2017 02:03

Marx Headroom: May 10, 2007; AT LAST! A show with nonono ~~commercials~~!; Fallen Rib

has anyone worked with something called NetBeans I really need to open this tax calculator

# ? Oct 20, 2017 02:06

Helianthus Annuus: Feb 21, 2006; can i touch your hand; Grimey Drawer

has anyone posted "thinking about thos netbeans" yet

# ? Oct 20, 2017 04:26

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

i sure am tired of all these jar/wars

# ? Oct 27, 2017 00:35

carry on then: Jul 10, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 10 years!)

Gazpacho posted:

i sure am tired of all these jar/wars

try an ear, friend

# ? Oct 27, 2017 14:51

Lutha Mahtin: Oct 10, 2010; Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

https://steveperkins.com/using-java-9-modularization-to-ship-zero-dependency-native-apps/

his standalone hello world app weighs in at over 20 megs but hey that's better than 200 :toot:

# ? Oct 27, 2017 19:30

ConanTheLibrarian: Aug 13, 2004; dis buch is late; Fallen Rib

should have used java ME

# ? Oct 27, 2017 22:18

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

Lutha Mahtin posted:

https://steveperkins.com/using-java-9-modularization-to-ship-zero-dependency-native-apps/

his standalone hello world app weighs in at over 20 megs but hey that's better than 200

How big is the equivalent hello world app in electron?

# ? Oct 28, 2017 00:51

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

lol looks like minimally electron apps weigh in at just over 100 megs. good thing bandwidth is cheap!

# ? Oct 28, 2017 00:54

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

Lutha Mahtin posted:

https://steveperkins.com/using-java-9-modularization-to-ship-zero-dependency-native-apps/

his standalone hello world app weighs in at over 20 megs but hey that's better than 200

my unit of measurement for program download sizes is the "doom". That's 12 dooms lol.

releated from april last year:
https://www.wired.com/2016/04/average-webpage-now-size-original-doom/

# ? Nov 2, 2017 00:16

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

java 10 early access builds are available now!

http://jdk.java.net/10/

apparently they dropped the 18.3 naming scheme, so in 3 years we'll be on java 16

# ? Nov 3, 2017 23:13

atomicthumbs: Dec 26, 2010; We're in the business of extending man's senses.

jazelle

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HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

Marx Headroom posted:

has anyone worked with something called NetBeans I really need to open this tax calculator

you called?

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