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Dota 2 players in the Netherlands can now see what's in loot boxes before they open them.
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Jul 26, 2018 12:39
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oh man the sales rate is gonna crash when players see that their next box is 100% guaranteed garbage
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Jul 26, 2018 12:43
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Prav posted:oh man the sales rate is gonna crash when players see that their next box is 100% guaranteed garbage "But the one after that might have something good"
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Jul 26, 2018 12:47
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Sefal posted:"But the one after that might have something good" yeah it's not gonna fix everyone, but it's certainly gonna leave a mark
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Jul 26, 2018 12:49
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On that same topic and rocket league https://www.gamesradar.com/rocket-league-loot-box-percentages-revealed-including-the-1-chance-of-black-market-items/ quote:In a blog post on the official Rocket League site, Psyonix breaks down the chance you have to receive each level of customization item via a Rocket League Crate (what Psyonix calls its loot boxes). They are:
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Jul 26, 2018 13:30
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It's troubling that people still use the self-serving marketing term "loot box" instead of the more accurate "gamble box" for these, shame!
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Aug 11, 2018 05:16
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The ol' No-Armed-Bandit
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Aug 11, 2018 05:27
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Third World Reggin posted:On that same topic and rocket league This still doesn't show the chance for getting individual items, although it probably could be calculated. Still, seems odd - petty even - that they'd resort to such an obvious half measure.
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Aug 11, 2018 05:31
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Svensken posted:This still doesn't show the chance for getting individual items, although it probably could be calculated. From Valve this is just about what I'd expect. The odd part to me is that this is somehow an acceptable fix to the regulators. It's such an obvious letter-of-the-law solution - and I expect one that requires a pretty wide interpretation of that law. I had expected more from my country, this is weak.
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Aug 11, 2018 10:49
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You know exactly what the odds are of a particular number coming up on the roulette wheel, but you don't see anyone calling it "not gambling".
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Aug 11, 2018 11:08
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EA refuses to comply with Belgium law and won't remove lootboxes from FIFA as reported by Jim Sterling and countless others. Court case looking increasingly likely and it couldn't have happened to a worse, more greedy company. Then Finland launched their own investigation into lootboxes. Soon followed by a whopping 15 countries more + Washington State! Oh, and Australia has already done a study, deeming lootboxes to be gambling! 
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Sep 24, 2018 20:30
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Kind of hoping they slap EA with a big fine and they refuse to pay.
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Sep 24, 2018 22:41
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Still love how their greed ultimately bit them all in the rear end and im glad too as micro transactions need to die but they never will.
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Sep 25, 2018 00:07
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I hope that Belgium petitions the EU to ban all lootboxes and then all games published by EA, gently caress that company
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Sep 25, 2018 05:27
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October 2018: local Belgium elections May 2019: regional & federal Belgian elections I've suddenly acquired psychic powers. I am the loving Kwisatz Haderach, and here is my vision of the present and future. EA is refusing to pull lootboxes because they want Belgium to block sales of FIFA 19. When that happens, EA will make a bunch of mealy statements about how they just want to make games for the fans, and they're so sorry the Belgian government won't let them have the game they want. Then they'll announce special Belgium-only additional support for FIFA 18. "For the fans." New players, roster updates for Belgian clubs, that kinda of thing. FIFA might be blocked from digital distribution and sale in stores, but the second-hand market is impossible to stop. Then they're gonna use the in-game text crawl that every game has now to tell all the FIFA 18 players to "make their voice heard". These are the election dates. Go vote. Check this website for politicians that want to let you keep playing FIFA. EA isn't looking to force a legal case to say lootboxes aren't gambling. They know they can't win that. They're gonna try for something bigger.
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Sep 25, 2018 18:36
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Klyith posted:October 2018: local Belgium elections Nice fanfic
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Sep 25, 2018 18:54
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Soon the Lootbox Lobby will control the EU.
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Sep 25, 2018 19:02
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How meaningful even are their sales in belgium compared to worldwide? My suspicion is they don’t care enough to make a separate version just for belgium, so they’re going to be flippant until the government blocks sales in that country and then just cut their losses, since they think that will cost them less than the alternative. Unless Belgium sales are way higher than I presume they are
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Sep 25, 2018 19:22
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belgium is loving bonkers for football, afaik. dunno if that helps counteract their small size, but... also, i'm pretty sure this is less about belgium and more about them admitting this is actually gambling, which would look incredibly bad in not-belgium. all the other companies went "we removed lootboxes in belgium because their interpretation of their own gambling law is wrong", nobody's said "we removed gambling from our games" yet.
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Sep 25, 2018 19:42
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Digirat posted:How meaningful even are their sales in belgium compared to worldwide? My suspicion is they don’t care enough to make a separate version just for belgium, so they’re going to be flippant until the government blocks sales in that country and then just cut their losses, since they think that will cost them less than the alternative. This is why it's good that there are now more and more countries following suit on this. Valve's reaction to the dutch gambling authority was to just remove the illegal stuff with no other changes in the dutch version only, but a less lethargic corporation looking at a larger scale ban may eventually do more about it, going from re-balancing the game for the affected population, to re-balancing the game for everyone, to not including loot boxes at all. They'll never admit fault but at some point being less lovely may end up being better for their bottom line.
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Sep 25, 2018 21:03
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2K Games already did that didn't they? The "telling players to make their voices heard" part anyway. They did remove the lootboxes though, for the moment at least. E: oh wait I see what you're saying, that they'll use that as a bigger lever if the game is banned outright. Ferrous fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Sep 25, 2018 |
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Sep 25, 2018 21:30
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Selling their game in Belgium is not critical to their bottom line. (Especially when you take into account how easy it is for the audience to be the one that circumvents bans and buys it anyways. People in australia were buying non-australian versions of games for years when their gov't was all censor-happy.) Not having exploitative lootbox revenue streams worldwide, because other countries follow suit? That poo poo *is* their bottom line. EA went from being a sick-looking company -- people were writing biz articles about MS buying them out -- to crazy profitable on the back of that. The guy who made FIFA Ultimate Team is their CEO now. That's how big a deal it was. The #2 risk to their whole company is that governments start cracking down on them. The #1 risk is that people get tired of it and stop dumping their money into soccer card packs on their own, but there's not a lot they can do about that one.
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Sep 25, 2018 22:42
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EA decided that the cost of removing lootboxes from the Belgium version was greater than X percent of the profit they expect to make in Belgium without lootboxes
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Sep 25, 2018 23:01
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Should jail the video game execs for breaking gambling laws imo, should go after them with RICO in the US.
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Sep 26, 2018 00:13
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