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Ape Fist
Feb 23, 2007

Nowadays, you can do anything that you want; anal, oral, fisting, but you need to be wearing gloves, condoms, protection.
I've a weird problem.

I recently started, like 2 months ago, a Jr position with a company as a Front End Dev. About a week later they brought on a short-term contractor whose way more experienced with Angular2 than I am, and he's actually been extremely helpful for me with regards to mentoring, and imparting knowledge to me and giving me pro tips with regards to how to do poo poo correctly, how to actually not be a garbage programmer and actually prevent me from getting fired for being an incompetent Jr. idiot. My job would be a lot harder without him to lean on.

Recently he's taken it upon himself to really get into the meat of our codebase and dig out and replace all of the garbage with clean, working, efficient code which produces less warnings on compile. He involves me in what he's doing to ask me if I have any insight into errors even though he probably knows I don't have any loving idea at all but maybe I might have something to say about it.

Long story short, mind you, he's reduced the load-time of our application from a ridiculous 15 seconds to about 3 seconds. This is loving gigantic. This is monumental. He's really, really done a great job and he's helped me a lot in the short time I've been here so the question I want to ask is:

Do I try to give him props to my seniors?

I feel like this guy needs to be acknowledged, but I don't know if I want to be the one to do it. We're a really busy company so I think maybe sometimes we might overlook talent or just assume people are talented and sometimes forget that sometimes people are doing a really good job. But am I going to look like some sort of weird loving apple shiner by pointing out that this guy actually owns and should be given props? I dunno. I also kinda wanna be like 'By the way he owns and could do my job in like 5 minutes, please don't fire me and try to coerce him into staying full time and ejecting me into the abyss.'

What do you guys think I should do?

Have you ever been in a similar position where you thought 'This dude just did something fuckin' real and no one noticed it, I need to tell someone.' ?

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504
Feb 2, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Just do it.

Unless you telling your boss some is an asset is considered sucking up, in that case quit.

Mr Shiny Pants
Nov 12, 2012

Ape Fist posted:

I've a weird problem.

I recently started, like 2 months ago, a Jr position with a company as a Front End Dev. About a week later they brought on a short-term contractor whose way more experienced with Angular2 than I am, and he's actually been extremely helpful for me with regards to mentoring, and imparting knowledge to me and giving me pro tips with regards to how to do poo poo correctly, how to actually not be a garbage programmer and actually prevent me from getting fired for being an incompetent Jr. idiot. My job would be a lot harder without him to lean on.

Recently he's taken it upon himself to really get into the meat of our codebase and dig out and replace all of the garbage with clean, working, efficient code which produces less warnings on compile. He involves me in what he's doing to ask me if I have any insight into errors even though he probably knows I don't have any loving idea at all but maybe I might have something to say about it.

Long story short, mind you, he's reduced the load-time of our application from a ridiculous 15 seconds to about 3 seconds. This is loving gigantic. This is monumental. He's really, really done a great job and he's helped me a lot in the short time I've been here so the question I want to ask is:

Do I try to give him props to my seniors?

I feel like this guy needs to be acknowledged, but I don't know if I want to be the one to do it. We're a really busy company so I think maybe sometimes we might overlook talent or just assume people are talented and sometimes forget that sometimes people are doing a really good job. But am I going to look like some sort of weird loving apple shiner by pointing out that this guy actually owns and should be given props? I dunno. I also kinda wanna be like 'By the way he owns and could do my job in like 5 minutes, please don't fire me and try to coerce him into staying full time and ejecting me into the abyss.'

What do you guys think I should do?

Have you ever been in a similar position where you thought 'This dude just did something fuckin' real and no one noticed it, I need to tell someone.' ?

Bitching is easy, so I say just do it. Just tell them you are impressed with the work he's done. They get to know they get their money's worth from his work and a compliment never hurt anyone.

Lonos Oboe
Jun 7, 2014
Aside from all the other great points mentioned, bosses generally love being told that their underlings are hot poo poo. Their whole job is supposed to primarily be about managing people and using them effectively, so you giving good feedback is usually welcome because it reflects well on them and helps them do their job.

I remember once ordering take out food when I had an ulcer and there was a dish I really liked but was mondo spicy. I asked if it was any bother to make it non-spicy. It was incredible and one of the best things I ever had from that place. I made a point of calling up and when I said I was not ordering but wanted to just make a comment about the food, the manager on the phone went "Ohh?" in that kinda bracing themselves for a bollicking voice. It was a Saturday night and I knew they would be busy, but I really wanted them to know that the unconventional dish the chef was probably cursing over tasted amazing was appreciated. Her whole manner changed when I complimented the meal and thanked them for their service. It's the smallest thing. But she was very appreciative even though and maybe because she was probably neck deep in people calling asking why their food wasn't there.

I know that is service industry, but the basic logic is always there. If the person has done something you personally find outstanding, (For me, eating my favourite food without risk of being hospitalised) It's always worth letting that person know it has not been taken for granted, for yourself if nothing else.

I only ever had one case where positive feedback was a weapon. A client was dealing with someone else at the company where I was brought in as a Freelancer. The client was really unhappy and wanted things changed with their product. The original person had "moved on to other work" and the client refused to pay, so on my first week this was the poo poo sandwich I was served, bad product, angry client. I managed to fix the product, chill the client out and they paid and booked in more work. The person called the head office to compliment me. The head man came down and thanked me and I was delighted. Until an e-mail went around the office asking why a Freelancer on his first week was able to do what the sales and production team could not. Yeah, I was not too popular there for a while.

Although a mitigating factor there was the boss man was a total oval office and I suppose one way or another everyone in the company knew my name.

EDIT: To clarify, this was also the most toxic place I ever worked and it did not have a real negative effect. It's just a funny story of being singled out.

Let us know how it goes.

Lonos Oboe fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Mar 9, 2018

DaTroof
Nov 16, 2000

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I say give him props. I'm sure the company will be glad to hear it.

A workplace would have to be pretty toxic for accolades to be negative for anyone. Yours doesn't sound toxic, if only because it's capable of fostering the kind of collaboration you've had with the contractor. A smart company should also recognize that one great programmer collaborating with a junior can yield two great programmers.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.

Ape Fist posted:

I've a weird problem.

I recently started, like 2 months ago, a Jr position with a company as a Front End Dev. About a week later they brought on a short-term contractor whose way more experienced with Angular2 than I am, and he's actually been extremely helpful for me with regards to mentoring, and imparting knowledge to me and giving me pro tips with regards to how to do poo poo correctly, how to actually not be a garbage programmer and actually prevent me from getting fired for being an incompetent Jr. idiot. My job would be a lot harder without him to lean on.

Recently he's taken it upon himself to really get into the meat of our codebase and dig out and replace all of the garbage with clean, working, efficient code which produces less warnings on compile. He involves me in what he's doing to ask me if I have any insight into errors even though he probably knows I don't have any loving idea at all but maybe I might have something to say about it.

Long story short, mind you, he's reduced the load-time of our application from a ridiculous 15 seconds to about 3 seconds. This is loving gigantic. This is monumental. He's really, really done a great job and he's helped me a lot in the short time I've been here so the question I want to ask is:

Do I try to give him props to my seniors?

I feel like this guy needs to be acknowledged, but I don't know if I want to be the one to do it. We're a really busy company so I think maybe sometimes we might overlook talent or just assume people are talented and sometimes forget that sometimes people are doing a really good job. But am I going to look like some sort of weird loving apple shiner by pointing out that this guy actually owns and should be given props? I dunno. I also kinda wanna be like 'By the way he owns and could do my job in like 5 minutes, please don't fire me and try to coerce him into staying full time and ejecting me into the abyss.'

What do you guys think I should do?

Have you ever been in a similar position where you thought 'This dude just did something fuckin' real and no one noticed it, I need to tell someone.' ?

Unless your company is a nightmare, the worst that will happen is that a manager will receive the feedback and then do nothing.

You should offer to buy him lunch and cultivate a professional relationship with him. Successful contractors can be great mentors because of the breadth of situations they've worked in. Further, they usually have a good network.

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Capri Sun Tzu
Oct 24, 2017

by Reene
I always talk up my coworkers to my superiors when they've done something well, and then I tell them I did it. Like, "Hey, your work on X was really solid. I talked to Manager Frank about it and we agreed you've been a huge help on the project. Just wanted to say thanks"

It's helped my career in massive ways. People who I've done this for have gone out of their way to do the same for me, which has gotten me promoted. Management almost always receives this kind of thing well, it makes you look good, it makes your coworkers look good, and it reinforces the idea that they're managing a good team.

So abso-loving-lutely, OP. Always share success with the people you work with.

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