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SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


I noticed this popping up everywhere in the past week and apparently Canadian media is concocting a reputation assassination campaign against Jagmeet Singh, the recently-elected leader of the NDP. He won in a landslide and is generally popular with the leftist crowd. Some people have issues with him but the sense is that he's Good Enough for now.

Recently Justin Trudeau has been visiting India and has been getting a lot of poo poo over how he's handling the trip, and the Canadian news landscape is now aware again of Sikhs. Canada has some history with Sikhs, namely a plane bombing where hundreds of people were killed. It's still a heavy topic today and I know people who know people who were killed in that event: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182 And the motivation behind that bombing has been a sore point for Sikhs for a while: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_anti-Sikh_riots

There's more to the issue but there's your primer. Also I'm not Canadian, maybe some other Canadian posters can expand more on this. Anyway, this sort of sudden nationwide pivot on attacking Singh for his perceived "terroristic sympathies" is pretty coincidentally timed with JT's trip and I'm convinced there's an agenda behind it being pushed by political actors because the corporate media are useless cum socks.

https://twitter.com/SikhProf/status/974338551193186304

https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/974034912050384896

https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/974081888875941888

https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/974346418667311105

https://twitter.com/SikhProf/status/974339677363822593

https://twitter.com/VancouverSun/status/974436505430216705

(As a note: the Vancouver Sun is owned by Postmedia but isn't related to the Sun tabloids. It's Vancouver's major local newspaper and runs alongside National Post and Globe & Mail.)

There's some very deliberate framing here in that last article from the Vancouver Sun:

quote:

“The risk is that the leader of the NDP is seen as too closely identified with his ethnic community and with some of the more militant elements within it,”

quote:

Seated beside Shamsher Singh on the 2016 panel is the NDP’s Jagmeet Singh, who is not shown disagreeing. In a third video Shamsher Singh says, “If you want self-determination, you’re going to have to take up arms.”

quote:

MORE RELATED: As Jagmeet Singh condemns terrorism, second video shows him speaking alongside Sikh separatist (National Post)

Douglas Todd: Could a Trump-like religious victory happen in Canada?

Douglas Todd: How religion cuts into politics

Todd is framing Singh and other Sikh up as religious extremists comparable to Trump and the American ISIS folks. Then this paragraph pops up:

quote:

Former federal Liberal cabinet minister Ujjal Dosanjh, a one-time NDP premier of B.C. who decades ago was brutally beaten for opposing Sikh terrorists, said Wednesday that Singh has publicly acknowledged he was inspired to jump into politics because of what he insists on calling, against the opinions of human-rights specialists, the Indian government’s “genocide” of Sikhs in India in 1984.

Let's dig into that accusation a little bit. Remember this link from earlier? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_anti-Sikh_riots Thousands were hunted down, beaten and raped, and killed in India. Canadian Sikhs were pretty loving upset about this!

quote:

Official Indian government reports numbered about 2,800 killed across India, including 2,100 in Delhi.[5][6] Independent sources estimate the number of deaths at about 8,000,[2][7][8] including at least 3,000 in Delhi.

quote:

Mobs carried iron rods, knives, clubs, and combustible material (including kerosene and petrol). They entered Sikh neighbourhoods, killing Sikhs indiscriminately and destroying shops and houses. Armed mobs stopped buses and trains in and near Delhi, pulling off Sikh passengers for lynching; some were burnt alive. Others were dragged from their homes and hacked to death, and Sikh women were reportedly gang-raped.

The cited article is another one from Douglas Todd: http://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/douglas-todd-genocide-pogrom-crime-against-humanity-words-do-matter and it's mostly concern trolling about the definition of "genocide" vs "pogrom".

quote:

The ultimate goal is not to insist on using loaded words, but to stop further persecution. To that end Sikh activists may be justified in continuing to press the Indian government for greater justice for 1984.

But they would reduce the divisive politics if they could do so by calling the anti-Sikhs riots a more precise term.

On its own it's bad but not terrible. Today, though, it's being wielded by Todd to try to paint Singh and the people he's fighting for as exaggerating their suffering and framing him as a religiously motivated zealot who doesn't have Canadian citizens' interest at heart.

This person has a good article digging into the story behind this sudden media shift towards Canadian Sikhs, and postulates that it's mostly Modi and his supporters. I won't post excerpts from it, and it's not suited for that anyway, go into it and read the whole thing. It has a much more thorough summation of the history behind this than what I've provided here.

https://twitter.com/Garossino/status/974420436904628224

OK, I lied:

quote:

So perhaps it wasn't at all surprising when Indian media took up the charge that Canada nurtures terrorists. The surprise is that, instead of demanding substantiation of such a shocking allegation, Canadian media widely repeated and amplified it.

In India, the retired Canadian terrorist Atwal can come and go at will. Muslims are lynched in the streets. Critics are targeted by online mobs hired by their own government's party. Journalists are murdered, or shot and left for dead. Minority film stars are targeted and attacked. Political opponents are accused of terrorism.

Why should anyone be surprised that popular Sikh politicians from Canada get the same treatment?

Yet only someone with virtually no literacy in current Indian politics could suspect Canadian Sikh politicians like the NDP leader Jagmeet Singh and Defence Minister Harjeet Sajjan of extremism.They are from different parties and hail from different parts of the country. Of the two, Singh is probably more supportive of an independent Sikh homeland, but this is decidedly not militant or extremist.

Yet they share one characteristic that's anathema to Modi and conservatives alike: they are progressive liberals.

Singh, like many other liberal and left-wing musicians, artists, scholars and intellectuals, is a challenge to Hindu supremacy. His public statements on 1984 fundamentally aligned with those of Modi’s mainstream political allies in Chandigarh and Delhi. For his part, Harjit Sajjan has made no public statements whatsoever supporting Sikh independence. He had a distinguished career as both a Vancouver police detective and decorated Canadian combat veteran.

It's an absurd fiction that Modi fears violence from Sajjan or Singh.

India, like every other country, is a mystery that never makes complete sense. As Churchill astutely observed of Russia, "It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key." In India, that key is stamped with a question: Cui bono--who benefits?

Turn that key, and solve the riddle.

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Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

canadian conservatives have long been searching for their holy grail of racism like muslims and the USA, but they can never quite find it

hint: it's native canadians, we're insanely racist against natives

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Yinlock posted:

canadian conservatives have long been searching for their holy grail of racism like muslims and the USA, but they can never quite find it

hint: it's native canadians, we're insanely racist against natives

^^
This guy knows what's up

One additional factor in 'racist against Sikhs' is that it might play well with some people from the subcontinent. That may seem trivial until you remember there are seats in the GTA where that population is pretty large, so it could ideally mean some seats for the cons

And they probably got the idea for this from the Trump campaign

(A very good link for people who think they can join the whites in racist idiocy despite not looking white themselves.)

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich
Yeah racism in Canada, and especially in the conservative movement, is always just beneath the surface.

And that surface doesn't hold up well to any prodding, so racist garbage pokes through very easily. Think of the skin on top of a pudding.

Also, I might be wrong but I don't think anyone who isn't Sikh or already down to hate on the browns gives a gently caress about this story

Gone Fission
Apr 7, 2007

We're here to make coffee metal. We're here to make everything metal.
a few months ago there was video of a crazy lady yelling at him about being a Muslim

he didn't even deny it or contradict anything that she was saying, the accusation was so insanely stupid

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

I never met a mean Sikh op

Boner Pill Connoisseur
Apr 23, 2002

I took the blue pill.

so glad we've as a people moved beyond saying things like barbaric cultural practices op

a primate
Jun 2, 2010

The Modi theory makes sense. Canada is so intellectually bankrupt we can't even innovate our own media slander, it has to be imported.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRHcQlouzAQ

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

They should wear helmets

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Canadian universities now hosting openly racist people

https://twitter.com/newworldhominin/status/974664205298290689

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


https://twitter.com/SikhProf/status/978663259648774144

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ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

a primate posted:

The Modi theory makes sense. Canada is so intellectually bankrupt we can't even innovate our own media slander, it has to be imported.

Canadian media is shockingly lazy. Reading or reprinting special interest groups press releases is a sizeable percentage of reporting here.

It also explains how Trudeau managed to such a bad trip to India when they invited Atwal.

OTOH there is absolutely terrorists being actively sheltered here so maybe the truth is in the middle.

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