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Davros1 posted:If Kevin Nash isn't the HoF, then neither should Roman Reigns Nash at least entertained me
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Ah, my favorite yearly tradition: old British dudes getting up in Meltzer's mentions stanning for Big Daddy
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Dec 22, 2018 19:00
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Gonzo McFee posted:Big Daddy is a very British pick for Hall of Fame because he was everywhere despite being awful and not drawing crowds at all and was only put in that position because he was the promoters son, which is pretty much every British person described as a "National Treasure". mark rocco is more deserving
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Dec 22, 2018 19:01
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Davey Boy Smith is more deserving. William Regal is more deserving.
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Dec 22, 2018 19:07
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Davros1 posted:Davey Boy Smith is more deserving. Regal should get in just on the wrestlers he trained or was involved with training Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, Chris Hero/Kassius Ohno, Cesaro, Johnny Gargano, Samoa Joe,
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Dec 22, 2018 19:15
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Benne posted:Ah, my favorite yearly tradition: old British dudes getting up in Meltzer's mentions stanning for Big Daddy https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/1076544794002886657
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Dec 22, 2018 19:35
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i love the phrase sickening big daddy takes so much
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Dec 22, 2018 20:13
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I could name at least 20 guys more influential to modern British wrestling, but I saw Big Daddy on a talk show once so clearly he's the Hogan of the UK
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Dec 22, 2018 20:14
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Anyone who voted for Nagata and simultaneously didn't vote for Jun Akiyama deserves to have their ballot taken away. There's no case for Nagata but not Akiyama. The Lucha voting is bad as well, and all the people who voted in Park screwing over the other Lucha candidates really sucks. Howard Finkel should be nowhere near a HOF that explicitly says longevity without significant contributions shouldn't count for anything. The WON HOF is so frustrating. Oh well.
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Dec 22, 2018 20:20
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Benne posted:I could name at least 20 guys more influential to modern British wrestling, but I saw Big Daddy on a talk show once so clearly he's the Hogan of the UK The Queen said he was her favorite wrestler!
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Dec 22, 2018 20:26
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Benne posted:I could name at least 20 guys more influential to modern British wrestling, but I saw Big Daddy on a talk show once so clearly he's the Hogan of the UK loving billy joyce, ricki starr, jackie pallo and mark rocco are on the ballot
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Dec 22, 2018 20:28
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the thing with the Big Daddy voting is it's mostly the British voters not voting him in so it's not really Dave's fault. I mean sure Dave has said he doesn't have a case but that hasn't stopped voters before (hi Sting)
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Dec 22, 2018 20:39
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sleep with the vicious posted:Anyone who voted for Nagata and simultaneously didn't vote for Jun Akiyama deserves to have their ballot taken away. There's no case for Nagata but not Akiyama. Maybe they think Nagata is better.
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Dec 22, 2018 20:41
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If Dave really influences the voters as much as people think he does then Randy Orton would've been in years ago
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Dec 22, 2018 20:44
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if nagata's so good why did he get KO'd by cro cop makes you think
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Dec 22, 2018 20:45
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Akiyama also had a decent shot at being a top guy in NOAH and just never could pull it off as good as Misawa or Kobashi, whereas Nagata probably gets more of a kind look due to being sacrificed at the alter of Inokism. Plus Akiyama and Taue probably suffer from "Yeah they're good but how much of that was them and how much was Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada" as well
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Dec 22, 2018 20:55
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the most baffling name on the ballot is kendo nagasaki like why
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SatoshiMiwa posted:Akiyama also had a decent shot at being a top guy in NOAH and just never could pull it off as good as Misawa or Kobashi, whereas Nagata probably gets more of a kind look due to being sacrificed at the alter of Inokism. Plus Akiyama and Taue probably suffer from "Yeah they're good but how much of that was them and how much was Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada" as well My memories of Akiyama on top of NOAH was losing the title to Marufuji using some modified cradle that resulted in Jun's shoulders being off the mat so he wasn't pinned at all.
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Smoking Crow posted:the most baffling name on the ballot is kendo nagasaki I want Kendo to get it only for it to be revealed that it was the other Kendo
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Since I will never get to post this anywhere else, please read through this description of Kendo Nagasaki's personal religious philosophy where you learn that the gimmick is a spirit he is channeling to teach the world the secrets of both kendo and nagasaki i guess
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Gonzo McFee posted:Big Daddy is a very British pick for Hall of Fame because he was everywhere despite being awful and not drawing crowds at all and was only put in that position because he was the promoters son, which is pretty much every British person described as a "National Treasure". Hey at least he doesn't have the (known) paedo aspect that a lot of "national treasures" of his generation do. SatoshiMiwa posted:Akiyama also had a decent shot at being a top guy in NOAH and just never could pull it off as good as Misawa or Kobashi, whereas Nagata probably gets more of a kind look due to being sacrificed at the alter of Inokism. Plus Akiyama and Taue probably suffer from "Yeah they're good but how much of that was them and how much was Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada" as well Akiyama is still having great matches without any of those guys though.
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:
I honestly think his current run with All Japan may get him in if it keeps growing since he helps out with booking and running the company
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:Hey at least he doesn't have the (known) paedo aspect that a lot of "national treasures" of his generation do. Only because he hated children too much to be around them long enough to gently caress them.
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Dec 23, 2018 10:45
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probably my fondest member of him, Bug Daddy put out a lot of comedic VHS tapes toward the end of his life. in 1995 I purchased two of them shrinkwrapped together down at the shops, and they were about him laying in the bed looking very tired and sweaty, with his hat put on his head lopsidedly, and someone from off the screen kept making fart noises with their mouth and tongue, and the same person Would say things like "oh mother i've done it again i have" in a high-pitched voice and i think he was pretending it to be big daddy's voice while big Daddy laid there occasionally sighing, coughing, or gasping for air
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Dec 23, 2018 11:16
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SatoshiMiwa posted:I honestly think his current run with All Japan may get him in if it keeps growing since he helps out with booking and running the company He owns it i think
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Dec 23, 2018 11:24
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maybe with one of the more popular names in the mexico category gone maybe the Park voters will spread to the other candidates finally.
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Honestly, I think a wrestler should either be retired, or if they refuse to retire, reach a certain age (50?) before they can be considered for the Hall of Fame.
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Davros1 posted:Honestly, I think a wrestler should either be retired, or if they refuse to retire, reach a certain age (50?) before they can be considered for the Hall of Fame. Make it like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame where bands are, at the earliest, inducted 25 years after their first album Make it so wrestlers can only be inducted 25 years after their pro debut
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Dec 23, 2018 15:22
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make it so whoever gets the votes goes in and anyone can get votes at any time, but also, voters can be voted out from being allowed to vote and people who are in the HoF can be removed with enough anti-votes later on
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Cavauro posted:make it so whoever gets the votes goes in and anyone can get votes at any time, but also, voters can be voted out from being allowed to vote and people who are in the HoF can be removed with enough anti-votes later on Dave did have a vote about whether to kick Benoit out, but it didn't pass.
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Davros1 posted:Honestly, I think a wrestler should either be retired, or if they refuse to retire, reach a certain age (50?) before they can be considered for the Hall of Fame. Then we'd end up with even more people like Tamura and Volk Han who will never get in despite being some of the absolute best.
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Dec 23, 2018 19:42
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Make it so people can go into the HoF up to nine times over, blocking others from going in once
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Given how quick the style changes I'm perfectly fine with the way eligibility works in the hall. Better to have guys voted when people remember the style and can judge the push. Part of the problem we have now for older guys is people going off of tapes and memories and not actually how guys actually did at the time
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Mexico doesn't have tapes All we know of prime Karloff Legarde and Huracan Ramirez are movie clips and memories of old Mexican people who don't get ballots
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