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double negative posted:social media provides a means to organize and communicate but it doesn’t substitute as an actual irl social organization or community like the church or the divine nine or something, so it might be a while. it’s really entrenched I meant supplant churches as a center for political activism, not as an IRL social group.
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# ? Dec 8, 2018 23:56 |
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Who What Now posted:Every slave owning white southerner was a Christian. Coincidence? Unlike all those atheist Northern abolitionists.
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 04:12 |
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Every religion can be monetized.
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 14:48 |
Thesis: its Paul's fault ultimately that my family aren't still hanging sacrifices off the tree in front of the temple at Gamla Uppsala IOW, Paul is ultimately responsible for the cultural genocide that took place across Europe before it was exported to the rest of the world. Of course, colonialism was driven by economics, probably primarily so, but it took on the veneer of the evangelical call to teach the gospel to all the creatures. So, is Christianity ultimately responsible for Eurocentrism/white supremacy or is bigotry developed convergently in various pockets because people ultimately suck?
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 17:55 |
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Bilirubin posted:Thesis: its Paul's fault ultimately that my family aren't still hanging sacrifices off the tree in front of the temple at Gamla Uppsala Christianity is undeniably the basis for white supremacy. The entire debate around whether whichever native peoples are actually human or human shaped animals was based around whether they accepted Christianity as truth. The genocides started because the savages proved their inhumanity by rejecting Christ (or just adding the Christian god to their pantheon). That said, it's not like non-white nations aren't capable of having a racial cast system, the Europeans just got lucky in making a global one.
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 18:08 |
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Muscle Wizard posted:it was an obvious trap but its pretty clear from other parts of scripture that jesus considered divine politics and earthly politics to be two different spheres. jesus is the original proponent of separation of church and state lol. He also understood that wealth and earthly power were innately corrupting forces Hentai Jihadist posted:i think christian socialism is pretty cool but the title of this thread is blatantly false, history shows us that Christianity is in fact insanely compatible with capitalism Jesus literally says that rich people don’t go to heaven.
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 18:51 |
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Bilirubin posted:Of course, colonialism was driven by economics, probably primarily so, but it took on the veneer of the evangelical call to teach the gospel to all the creatures. So, is Christianity ultimately responsible for Eurocentrism/white supremacy or is bigotry developed convergently in various pockets because people ultimately suck? Bigotry is developed when inequality is rampant not because people suck but because people are ultimately not hosed in the head and need some ideological justification for what they and their government are doing. Christianity is good at providing that. The concept of White Man's Burden is all about how Europe was really uplifting the savages, not doing colonialist exploitation. They're not doing genocide, they're converting savages and saving their immortal souls.
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Moridin920 posted:whatever gently caress Paul then too it's not like that poo poo hasn't been changed before My dude, have you heard of Baha'ullah? Agreed, OP.
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 18:57 |
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Xtianity is cool
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 18:58 |
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also, Paul ruined everything and then Constantine came by and gave it an atomic elbow while it was down. Tolstoy actually wrote some real good books on it if you can handle 19th Century Russian translated to early 20th century English.
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 19:10 |
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isnt the whole reason jesus message caught on amongst jews is that they badly wanted roman rule swept away. like mayb jesus argued against caring about secular/earthly affairs but he was executed for sedition not blasphemy. isnt that anti imperialist
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 20:16 |
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Saudi Arabia is really good at religious grift too and I wish this thread could include all places doing stuff like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmtCtP5UXRk
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 21:06 |
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cargo cult posted:isnt the whole reason jesus message caught on amongst jews is that they badly wanted roman rule swept away. like mayb jesus argued against caring about secular/earthly affairs but he was executed for sedition not blasphemy. isnt that anti imperialist Destroying an empire for the sole purpose of replacing it with your own isn't anti-imperialist.
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 21:12 |
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Who What Now posted:Destroying an empire for the sole purpose of replacing it with your own isn't anti-imperialist. They didn't want an empire they wanted to have their own state as a self determining people? An independent kingdom is how that was done back then 99.999% of the time.
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 21:14 |
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christmas boots posted:He also understood that wealth and earthly power were innately corrupting forces "you shouldnt have money (the king should)" how very convenient
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 21:56 |
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I got a guy to sell me his soul for 3 sheets of notebook paper in high school.
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 22:30 |
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lol every1 k ows that tbose contracts are only valid when signed in blodd
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 22:33 |
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Tastykake posted:lol every1 k ows that tbose contracts are only valid when signed in blodd
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i w a n t t o e a t y o u r s o u l r a w
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MizPiz posted:Christianity is undeniably the basis for white supremacy. The entire debate around whether whichever native peoples are actually human or human shaped animals was based around whether they accepted Christianity as truth. The genocides started because the savages proved their inhumanity by rejecting Christ (or just adding the Christian god to their pantheon). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Guadalupe Lots of indigenous peoples converted to Christianity of their own free will, which was a problem because enslaving Christians was aaaawkward. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praying_town quote:An important factor contributing to the conversion of Natives was the possibility to increase their legitimacy in the eyes of the English settlers and thus recognition of their rights to their land. Because of troubles between the tribes themselves and between the colonists and the tribes, some saw the praying towns as a refuge from war.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 01:38 |
christianity isn't so much incompatible with capital as it is its incubator and precursor. as god is the ground of being that dreamed us into existence within itself, so to did we dream our own progeny embodied in the rarefied ground of our own minds. capital moves around to world to propagate itself, it consumes, it grows and multiplies, it excretes the waste products of its consumption. it reacts to threats and acts always in its own self preservation. a superconsciousness that marshalls individual humans to its defense without a separately-extant self consciously calling the shots, just as the communal human organism does with its cells and microbiome. capitalism is christianity, only this time we took the role of gods and not creations. and like us, capitalism must inevitably murder the gods it has outgrown.
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paul_soccer10 posted:liberation theology ftw
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# ? Dec 11, 2018 06:13 |
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Koishi Komeiji posted:This is such a lazy excuse. It's the "not all white men!" of religious defensive language. it's actually the opposite; "not all white men" is about claiming exceptions to a generality, you're the one claiming exceptionalism but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt: of christianity, islam, and hinduism - the three currently-dominant organized religions of humanity, which have all been around for at least a millennium, and which account for 2/3rds of the human race's religious beliefs - which is not a malleable doctrine that has principally been used to justify the power and dominance of one class over another?
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# ? Dec 11, 2018 06:54 |
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Jesus was cool but Christianity never does more than making poor people feel OK with being oppressed. At least they will go to heaven in the afterlife, lol.
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Ayn Randi posted:christianity isn't so much incompatible with capital as it is its incubator and precursor. as god is the ground of being that dreamed us into existence within itself, so to did we dream our own progeny embodied in the rarefied ground of our own minds. capital moves around to world to propagate itself, it consumes, it grows and multiplies, it excretes the waste products of its consumption. it reacts to threats and acts always in its own self preservation. a superconsciousness that marshalls individual humans to its defense without a separately-extant self consciously calling the shots, just as the communal human organism does with its cells and microbiome. You're talking about capital in the same way McVeigh talked about modern technology.
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# ? Dec 11, 2018 19:03 |
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i dont think jesus was much political he was more of the sovereign citizen cult leader type like david koresh but also smoking holy hash oil in abundance
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# ? Dec 11, 2018 20:46 |
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Anybody linked to David Bentley Hart yet? Articles for reading. https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/christs-rabble https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/opinion/sunday/christianity-communism.html Unfortunate pay well on the second one is new.
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# ? Dec 20, 2018 15:06 |
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If you are on a browser, noscript will usually get you by paywalls. also where the gently caress is the mic drop emote? quote:In a sense, the good news announced by Scripture was that Christ had come to save us from the burden of Christianity.
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# ? Dec 20, 2018 15:30 |
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idk op what if it is??? it sounds like it might be./
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Yikes.
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# ? Feb 1, 2021 21:45 |
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anyone here saved yet from capitalism, i mean
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# ? Feb 7, 2021 01:44 |
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seems sort of extreme to say Protestants aren't Christian is this a tradcath thread?
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# ? Feb 7, 2021 05:44 |
My history with Christianity is so loving atypical. Parents thought brainwashing was dumb and bad, so raised me without direct influence on faith. I was more or less atheist after brushing up against a millenial doomsday cult who said things about Revelation that hurt my heart and made me reject it outright. Then when i was 16 i started to become hardcore left wing. Then at 18 I got saved into a church. I never fully fit in because i made no attempt to modify my belief in science or socialism. But even as ive radicalized more, even as I transition and am an abomination t9 so many Christians... I still believe and worship. I feel like Christianity must fundamentally be socialistic in its behavior and aims in order to truly walk Christ's path. I keep having dreams where otherworldly beings purge me in cleansing fire and show me the infinite expanses of eternity, or show me events that haven't happened yet. I know I'm among folks who tend to need empirical information. That would dismiss this out of hand as crazy nonsense, and I can't even disagree... but it has only strengthened my belief that the heavens are far more just and extant than most lefties would ever concede.
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Atrocious Joe posted:seems sort of extreme to say Protestants aren't Christian imo just sit in waiting silence until an answer comes to you much simpler than worrying about those boundaries then,
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AIRHORN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw3_5AaWBlY
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jesus christ the zipper on my pants broke and my weiner was just flopping around luckily everyone was at lunch
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