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Yo that was the best Raw in months.
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that raw sucked. marginally better than the last two, but still orders of magnitude from "good". Still, shooting oneself in the dick to distract everyone from having shot oneself in the foot is...a strategy
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Dec 11, 2018 05:38
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The reason I say that is they basically retconned the last several weeks, acknowledged it sucked, and had a really satisfying main event. I genuinely love that the video package about Seth and Dean basically completely ignored all the Vincetastic bullshit of the last few weeks.
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Dec 11, 2018 05:41
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Admittedly I blocked out a lot of bad poo poo until I saw people bitching and remembered they existed but that's the benefit of really investing in your main angles without comedy bullshit ruining them. People remember the main event angles more than anything.
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Dec 11, 2018 05:48
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SamuraiFoochs posted:The reason I say that is they basically retconned the last several weeks, acknowledged it sucked, and had a really satisfying main event. I genuinely love that the video package about Seth and Dean basically completely ignored all the Vincetastic bullshit of the last few weeks. well, I'd say more that they started to write out the last few (peculiarly godawful) weeks of booking. Maybe I've just been burned once too often, but I feel that the real test will be how long this relatively sensible booking lasts
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Dec 11, 2018 05:50
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Trying to think of anywhere else that "LOL we deliberately wasted 12 hours of your life" can be considered a step up from what came before AND acceptable to an audience.
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Dec 11, 2018 05:56
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Beginning the show with an explicit acknowledgment that Baron Corbin is killing ratings and then booking half the show around him anyway, even though he's likely gone next week, tells me they haven't learned a drat thing.
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Dec 11, 2018 05:57
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I mean they didn't have revival lose to lucha house party again immediately after Seth called that out, which honestly surprised me
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Dec 11, 2018 05:59
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GrimGypsy posted:I mean they didn't have revival lose to lucha house party again immediately after Seth called that out, which honestly surprised me That plus no piss plus basically not acknowledging the goofy Dean stuff at all is why I have some hope that they seriously want to move in a different direction. You guys can bitch about Corbin and that's fair but you're literally ignoring what we saw on screen if you think that was in any way more of the same. Could they go back to poo poo next week? Yes. But I'm not looking into the future beyond Sunday. Psychepath posted:Beginning the show with an explicit acknowledgment that Baron Corbin is killing ratings and then booking half the show around him anyway, even though he's likely gone next week, tells me they haven't learned a drat thing. They did that to make Seth's ultimate victory in the main event that much more satisfying hth. SamuraiFoochs fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Dec 11, 2018 |
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Dec 11, 2018 06:05
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Durrrr maybe WWE won’t loving suck next week Give up
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Dec 11, 2018 06:13
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Tomahawk posted:Durrrr maybe WWE won’t loving suck next week I enjoyed the show this week actually. 
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Dec 11, 2018 06:15
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Yo that was the best Raw in months. blink if you need us to rescue you from titan tower
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Dec 11, 2018 06:17
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Maybe wait till RAW hasn’t had a complete waste of 3 hours episode in the last month before giving them the benefit of the doubt
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Dec 11, 2018 06:17
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Raskolnikov38 posted:blink if you need us to rescue you from titan tower Can we stop with this bullshit? Sorry I don't reflexively think everything WWE does is Chinese Water Torture. The last two weeks have been the hottest garbage imaginable and I'd have said so on this forum but I literally lacked the words to articulate how much I hated it. I found this week quite enjoyable, admittedly largely off the back of the opening and closing segments but those were both good and had satisfying conclusions.
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Dec 11, 2018 06:21
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Yo that was the best Raw in months. I legitimately wish your optimism could infect me because while I agree that it was the best one in a bit it just doesn't mean anything to me. It was the best one because they lowered expectations to where all they needed to do was not have a grown man piss himself while everyone points and laughs. Edit: I'm not ragging on you, I just wish I could extract whatever good you seem to find in RAW. Gumball Gumption fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Dec 11, 2018 |
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Dec 11, 2018 06:21
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fortunately it wasn't the same old thing in which Team Glorious had yet another dumb match with the badly booked AOP, Nia cut a boring promo followed by Rousey cutting a boring promo, something pointless happened with Sasha and Bayley, Elias and Lashley puttered around at one another, Finn looked like a punk, the whole show was built around Baron and culminated in a mediocre match...
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Dec 11, 2018 06:21
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GrimGypsy posted:fortunately it wasn't the same old thing in which Team Glorious had yet another dumb match with the badly booked AOP, Nia cut a boring promo followed by Rousey cutting a boring promo, something pointless happened with Sasha and Bayley, Elias and Lashley puttered around at one another, Finn looked like a punk, the whole show was built around Baron and culminated in a mediocre match... How did Finn look like a punk? He wasn't there and I think the reason they did that was to bring back The Demon against Drew which makes sense and is good and even if they have Drew beat him it's fine because Drew should be built up huge. Also how was that main event mediocre? It wasn't five stars or anything but it was a fun spotfest with sensible booking that got over the idea of TLC without diluting any of Sunday's matches and the crowd loving loved it.
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Dec 11, 2018 06:27
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Yo that was the best Raw in months. woah
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Dec 11, 2018 06:28
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I didn't watch the television show but I believe my friend Samurai "SF" Foochs.
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Dec 11, 2018 06:33
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Barreft posted:woah That was admittedly probably a bit much but it was definitely the best one in about a month and certainly the best "planned" Raw in a long time. The Roman Raw was very good but was also panic booked.
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Dec 11, 2018 06:48
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Raw was better than it's been recently, but I still didn't dig on it much. Like, the opening promo was about how the show is repetitive and boring and doesn't make sense, and that was immediately followed by the fourth consecutive Team Gabboo vs AOP match, which was a title match despite them losing a match last week to win a title shot, and the championship changed hands because Drake Maverick got pinned by a rollup.
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Dec 11, 2018 07:26
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SamuraiFoochs posted:How did Finn look like a punk? He wasn't there and I think the reason they did that was to bring back The Demon against Drew which makes sense and is good and even if they have Drew beat him it's fine because Drew should be built up huge. he got shoved into a keg and was so hurt that it shelved him for 2 weeks so yeah that's a punk And it was a mediocre match. I know your whole deal but come on dude.
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Dec 11, 2018 07:56
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Can we stop with this bullshit? Sorry I don't reflexively think everything WWE does is Chinese Water Torture. The last two weeks have been the hottest garbage imaginable and I'd have said so on this forum but I literally lacked the words to articulate how much I hated it. The issue is you sound like a peak TNA stan in that to you mediocrity is the same as really enjoyable. Sometimes the living isn't and will never be silver.
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Dec 11, 2018 08:24
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This week's Raw was the best episode in a while in the same way a warm glass of piss is better than a month of eating hot steaming turds.
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Dec 11, 2018 08:25
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That is immensely better. I'm glad that supporting my friend turned out to be the right thing to do, though I would have done it regardless.
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Dec 11, 2018 08:25
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Tomahawk posted:Durrrr WWE 
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Dec 11, 2018 08:53
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Lid posted:The issue is you sound like a peak TNA stan in that to you mediocrity is the same as really enjoyable. Sometimes the living isn't and will never be silver. Lmao you're making GBS threads me right? Peak TNA stan? Other than posting tonight which I was admittedly eager to do because I like posting about shows I enjoy while getting literally no value out of misery masturbation, I told you so's, and circlejerks about understandably tanking ratings, when I do post I've been regularly talking about how trash Raw has been recently while coming just short of saying Vince needs to kick the bucket (because wishing death on anyone makes me feel gross). Either that or I haven't been posting at all which you should realize often means I found a show literally indefensible so why bother? 98% of the posts in main roster WWE discussion (well, post Raw or PPVs anyway, SmackDown is usually reasonably well received) are an echo chamber of how loving awful this or that is. When I agree, what's the point in saying anything? It's just a negative feedback loop I can do without. When I disagree and go to the trouble of posting, this poo poo happens. I genuinely like the vast majority of posters here when they're not being miserable fucks about wrestling (whether from personal conversations, posts in other forums or about other topics, or on the rare occasion we agree a show is good) but I'm finding myself feeling increasingly unwelcome here. Or my opinions, anyway. There's a reason I basically never, ever livepost anymore. When I do it's either post show or posting my immediate thoughts without reading the thread. Because reading the threads basically makes me miserable (except Takeovers). I don't know why I even bother to express happiness on this subforum anymore. Sure plenty of people quietly agree or at least tolerate the difference of opinion but if the majority of vocal people are gonna shout me down for it, it's pointless. I know WWE sucks a LOT of the time. I get no joy out of posting when everyone agrees on that including me.
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Dec 11, 2018 09:12
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I've been listening to old wrestling podcasts from 2013 where they're reviewing RAW and Impact and even when TNA was bad, it was amusingly bad. It kinda makes me miss when wrestling was just amusingly bad and not just outright bad Some people said this week's RAW was good, I'll believe it when it's actually good for a consistent couple months and not just one good week followed by more garbage
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Dec 11, 2018 09:29
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The main event was real good but I still cannot fathom why WWE insists on having heels who are explicitly made out to be cheating fucks who aren't very good.... who then proceed to largely dominate or go toe-to-toe with the best of the best faces. The absolute best Corbin match of his entire main roster run was the night he got demolished by Demon Finn in like 12 seconds and it is absolutely the perfect use for him. Weeks (preferably not months) of being an rear end in a top hat who takes sneak shots/every advantage he can get, suddenly finding himself with no way out and getting his rear end handed to him by a clearly superior opponent. Corbin - wearing slacks - going toe to toe for so long with Seth even without Slater's assistance made no sense at all. Regardless, the match was cool and so was the ending. The show finished with everybody in the audience happy and a good guy standing tall. By that metric alone it was the best Raw in a long time.
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Dec 11, 2018 09:44
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Jerusalem posted:The absolute best Corbin match of his entire main roster run was the night he got demolished by Demon Finn in like 12 seconds and it is absolutely the perfect use for him. I liked Corbin/Kalisto 
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Dec 11, 2018 10:12
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SamuraiFoochs is right, that was a thousand million times better than any Raw in recent memory. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, dudes.
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Dec 11, 2018 12:36
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Raskolnikov38 posted:blink if you need us to rescue you from titan tower
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Dec 11, 2018 13:08
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The Kimoa Kid posted:SamuraiFoochs is right, that was a thousand million times better than any Raw in recent memory. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, dudes. 'It wasn't as dogshit terrible as it could have been' is not a strong debating point
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Dec 11, 2018 13:19
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Of course you emptyquoted that unfunny bullshit after I explained at length how tiresome I find it and why. Of COURSE you did. Rarity posted:'It wasn't as dogshit terrible as it could have been' is not a strong debating point I enjoyed the show and by the sounds of it so did J-Ru, or at least the main event which was a HUGE part of my enjoyment of the show. It's fine that you didn't, and it sucks that we didn't both enjoy it, but you boiling any argument I've been making down to that is basically like me saying to you "I'm sorry you can't enjoy good things, no fun haver." I don't, because it's possible to have different opinions about a wrestling show while disagreeing respectfully and not being a jerk about it. The only part of any negative sentiment about the show I really take umbrage with is calling that main mediocre. It wasn't all time great but it was a drat sight better than mediocre. I think calling it that is disingenuous.
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Dec 11, 2018 15:36
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Of course you emptyquoted that unfunny bullshit after I explained at length how tiresome I find it and why. Of COURSE you did. That wasn't directed at you, Foochs. You're talking stuff you legit enjoyed, that's different.
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Dec 11, 2018 17:29
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Rarity posted:That wasn't directed at you, Foochs. You're talking stuff you legit enjoyed, that's different. The gently caress is that supposed to mean?
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This thread, much like the hell-year that has been 2018, has run its course.
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