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So Mary Shelly wrote Frankenstein during a writers’ retreat getaway thing where a bunch of literary types went away for a jolly old holiday. While there, they decided it would be great sport if they all wrote a horror story and then presented the story to the group at the end of the retreat. Mary Shelly’s contribution went on to become one of the most famous and influential sci-fi/horror stories ever made. Did anything else of note come out of that contest or did the other authors just end up dying in obscurity?
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Dr. John Polidori produced The Vampyre, viewed as the granddaddy of all vampire fiction. Lord Byron and Percy Bysshe Shelley never finished their scary stories, but they're considered two of the greatest poets of the Romantic movement, so they did pretty well for themselves. Fun Fact: According to tradition, Mary Shelley (then Godwin) lost her virginity to Percy when they were both visiting the grave of her mother, women's rights advocate Mary Wollstonecraft. Percy was married to another woman at the time. hth Pththya-lyi fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jan 20, 2019 |
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Jan 20, 2019 18:10
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I think you have the details a bit mixed up op. The contest was started while she was stuck inside a house during a storm, and the other occupants included Lord Byron and Percy Shelley. I don't know if either of those guys wrote anything of note during that specific contest, but they didn't die in obscurity either.
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Jan 20, 2019 18:11
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Jan 20, 2019 18:23
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"Shelley Does Diodati" by Byron
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Jan 20, 2019 18:41
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"Dr. Jeckyl and his Mister's Hide" by Mary Shelley
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Jan 20, 2019 18:42
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Those freaks were the type that could down a gallon of absinthe and spew forth a shitload of anime
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Jan 20, 2019 19:19
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Pththya-lyi posted:Dr. John Polidori produced The Vampyre, viewed as the granddaddy of all vampire fiction. Oh wow. And here I thought Bram Stoker’s Dracula was the foundation of all vampire fiction. That’s pretty cool.
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Jan 20, 2019 23:14
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Also I’m only just now bothering to put two and two together regarding Shelley of “Ozymandias” fame and Mary Shelley’s similar last names.
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Jan 20, 2019 23:17
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They also wrote the first season of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
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Jan 20, 2019 23:27
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Extra Large Marge posted:They also wrote the first season of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. And invented what we now know as the Cheez-It
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Jan 20, 2019 23:48
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I'm kinda disappointed people aren't talking about how the Ozymandias guy hosed the Frankenstein lady on her mom's grave What happened to SA
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Jan 20, 2019 23:50
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And get this, James Joyce liked to huff his wife's farts.
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Jan 20, 2019 23:51
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ELI PORTER posted:And get this, James Joyce liked to huff his wife's farts. Interestingly, Kate Beaton made a comic about James Joyce, too 
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Jan 20, 2019 23:53
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Dostoevsky wrote Bird Box there.
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Jan 21, 2019 00:58
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congrats on watching an episode of drunk history op
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Jan 21, 2019 01:49
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you freaking dumbass
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Jan 21, 2019 01:50
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Pththya-lyi posted:I'm kinda disappointed people aren't talking about how the Ozymandias guy hosed the Frankenstein lady on her mom's grave I bet he whispered some slick as hell goth romantic poetry into her ear about eros and thanatos and the beauty of making her a mother on the grave of her mother.
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Jan 21, 2019 01:58
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https://youtu.be/zPBv9SGgwho presented without comment
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Jan 21, 2019 02:00
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One of Lord Byron's children was Ada Lovelace, the mother of computer programming. Mary Shelley wrote the first sci-fi post-apocalyptic novel, The Last Man, which takes place in a future where disease kills nearly everyone on earth. Two of the characters are based on Lord Byron and Percy Shelley. 
strange feelings re Daisy fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jan 21, 2019 |
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Jan 21, 2019 02:26
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Mary Shelley wrote that dumbass book The Martian
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Jan 21, 2019 02:38
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mary shelly wrote ready player one
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Jan 21, 2019 02:39
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:you freaking dumbass Excuse me for trying to educate myself while also being entertained.
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Jan 21, 2019 04:59
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Moon Atari posted:I bet he whispered some slick as hell goth romantic poetry into her ear about eros and thanatos and the beauty of making her a mother on the grave of her mother. 
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Jan 21, 2019 05:36
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Ken Russell made the movie Gothic based on that fateful weekend. And it is bonkers even for a Ken Russell film. Because he ran with the idea that they were all crazy sexhounds drinking gallons of absinthe that weekend. At one point we see a woman with eyeballs in place of the nipples on her large breasts. At another point (and seen on the poster) there's a live action recreation of the famous series of paintings entitled "The Nightmare".
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Jan 21, 2019 16:08
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Choco1980 posted:Ken Russell made the movie Gothic based on that fateful weekend. And it is bonkers even for a Ken Russell film. Because he ran with the idea that they were all crazy sexhounds drinking gallons of absinthe that weekend. At one point we see a woman with eyeballs in place of the nipples on her large breasts. At another point (and seen on the poster) there's a live action recreation of the famous series of paintings entitled "The Nightmare". I remember browsing through channels and think "oh! a period piece movie" let's watch! Than things got crazy really fast...
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Applewhite posted:Oh wow. And here I thought Bram Stoker’s Dracula was the foundation of all vampire fiction. That’s pretty cool. Dracula was extremely derivative. Case in point: there's an anonymous German story titled "The Mysterious Stranger" that was published in English well before Dracula that opens with a carriage traveling through the Carpathian Mountains, being chased by wolves. The carriage reaches a ruined old castle and a big vampire comes out and dismisses the wolves with a wave of his hand and then pretends to be a normal guy who doesn't eat people. You might recognize this from being Almost Exactly the Beginning of Dracula. It's also impossible to overstate how important Polidori's The Vampyre is to vampire fiction - the entire literary tradition of "the vampire story" as separate from folklore is directly descended from its influence. It was ridiculously popular when it came out-- there were multiple operas made of it. The story itself is fairly boring; the reason it's popular is: Polidori hated Lord Byron and wrote him into the story as the villain-- the vampire. Like, even the vampire's name 'Ruthven' was a known alias of Byron's. Everyone else in England thought Byron was sexy as gently caress, and recognized the vampire as being a thinly veiled version of Lord Byron. Consequently, everyone thought A) the vampire was sexy as gently caress and B) that Lord Byron wrote the story. Anyway to make a long story short, Polidori killed himself. edit: read Sheridan Le Fanu's "Carmilla" and "Schalken the Painter" for more spooky undeads that predate Dracula. The latter isn't exactly a vampire story (except, I keep seeing versions where they note that the creep of the story has fangs and other versions where that detail isn't present. I haven't found any kind of commentary on the publication history to explain this discrepancy so who knows) but it's very good. Bonaventure fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jan 21, 2019 |
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Jan 21, 2019 16:22
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Frankenstein was pretty good, i wrote a modern adaptation of it when i was in college which was loving trash but (on advice from a coworker who took the teachers class before) it pandered the gently caress to the ultra woke side of things and i got an A in the course even though i wriote like 3/4 the night before hosed up on liquor and addy
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Fun fact: Many people believe "Frankenstein" was the monster's name, but that's actually just his last name, taking his father's, Doctor Frankenstein. His real name is thus Monster Frankenstein.
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Bonaventure posted:Dracula was extremely derivative. Case in point: there's an anonymous German story titled "The Mysterious Stranger" that was published in English well before Dracula that opens with a carriage traveling through the Carpathian Mountains, being chased by wolves. The carriage reaches a ruined old castle and a big vampire comes out and dismisses the wolves with a wave of his hand and then pretends to be a normal guy who doesn't eat people. You might recognize this from being Almost Exactly the Beginning of Dracula.
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:congrats on watching an episode of drunk history op Nefarious 2.0 posted:you freaking dumbass This guy really hates Drunk History!
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Jan 21, 2019 19:02
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i'm a woman
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Jan 21, 2019 19:16
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:i'm a woman Explain.
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Jan 21, 2019 19:23
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lord byron was so filled with romanticism that he went and died fighting a war that had nothing to do with him
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Jan 21, 2019 20:40
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I heard he had a club foot and also was a bulimic, no joke
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Jan 21, 2019 20:42
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Choco1980 posted:At one point we see a woman with eyeballs in place of the nipples on her large breasts. That's based on an actual hallucination Percy Shelley had during that house party BTW, it's okay to call the monster Frankenstein - because Dr Frankenstein was the REAL monster all along 
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frankenstein is borderline unreadable crap
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I believe they tossed around the idea of a woman who was cursed to have her head turned into a living skull after spying on something through a keyhole but ultimitely concluded that it was stupid as hell and dropped it.
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