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Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Three Olives posted:

Since all these cheap Android phones are so amazing, sensible and practice I just think it's funny that there isn't a phone in a venn diagram of price, service, build quality and support that isn't hot garbage compared to an iPhone.

this used to be the nexus 5 but they discontinued it

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Cock Sucker
Nov 14, 2018

Dumb Lowtax posted:

I like JavaScript :smith:

The newer es6 styles can do a lot in not a whole lot of space. I have no desire to transpile from something else

Yeah what's the ecma spec up to these days. closing in on a thousand loving pages?

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
Ecma sounds almost as bad as the old ligma implementations

Laslow
Jul 18, 2007

Three Olives posted:

Since all these cheap Android phones are so amazing, sensible and practice I just think it's funny that there isn't a phone in a venn diagram of price, service, build quality and support that isn't hot garbage compared to an iPhone.
It’s a small sliver which contains a couple Nokia models, pretty much. And even then, it’s relative to the price of the most inexpensive iPhones.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

everyone has different needs and wants in their electronics, not that they're stupid because they don't own a $800 phone themselves

Nah, people just get tricked into thinking they have those needs and wants by ads and bullshit.

Three Olives posted:

Since all these cheap Android phones are so amazing, sensible and practice I just think it's funny that there isn't a phone in a venn diagram of price, service, build quality and support that isn't hot garbage compared to an iPhone.

Yes there is. Xiaomi's mi series is pretty much that, LG's nexus phones used to be, and I'm pretty sure Huawei phones mostly fit the bill as well. Buy a Chinese phone, dumbasses. Don't buy a terrible American phone from a man who is only famous because he was really good at frowning and grabbing his chin.

Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Mar 9, 2019

SleepySonata
Mar 3, 2010

gary oldmans diary posted:

the storage size of apps, rendering h.264 video, rendering gifs, and photos are all not cpu intensive things

So what is it that junks up your phone over time? also I kinda agree with the argument when thinking about the number of apps the average user will have going on as background processes going up as time goes on.

coke
Jul 12, 2009

Shibawanko posted:

Nah, people just get tricked into thinking they have those needs and wants by ads and bullshit.
Most of the gimmick like the latest foldable screen and even 5G are somewhat bullshit.

But saying better raw cpu speed being bullshit is kinda dumb too. Otherwise no one really need a faster cpu or gpu on the desktop either.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

coke posted:

Most of the gimmick like the latest foldable screen and even 5G are somewhat bullshit.

But saying better raw cpu speed being bullshit is kinda dumb too. Otherwise no one really need a faster cpu or gpu on the desktop either.
Foldable screens would be solving a real problem of trying to fit a larger screen into a pocketable form factor. If the engineering has been worked out (and it might be still too early), it'd be pretty cool.

CPUs on the other hand are way past "fast enough" for phones. Really my OnePlus One was perfectly fine until last year, and when I was looking to upgrade, CPU performance was never once a consideration for the kind of stuff a phone is used for.

Laptops and desktops are also "fast enough" and have been for years, since for most people they're just facebook and Office machines. Although at least do massive photo processing, 3D and video rendering, machine learning and a lot of other stuff that takes a lot of time time benefits massively from higher CPU performance so I hope Intel gets its head out of its rear end soon enough.

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

I will never give up my mid-range Moto and its dumb gimmicky mods.



The battery one is really great. Being able to slap an extra 12 hours of life seamlessly onto the phone is something I can't live without and way more important to me than ensuring I have enough CPU power to render PornHub ads.

The gamepad is decent enough for short bursts of play and doesn't lag like Bluetooth ones tend to and the button layout maps perfectly onto my PlayStation emulator.

I'll probably never own the Hasselblad zoom camera or mini-projector ones though.

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

Away all Goats posted:

this used to be the nexus 5 but they discontinued it

There's going to be some kind of Pixel 3 Lite releasing somewhere in the not so far future. The phone went though FCC filings recently and it's been leaked with a lower-end Snapdragon and a similar design to current Pixel phones several times. No idea what's taking Google so long on the announcement though.

Ardemia
Jan 2, 2004

IT IS MY RIGHT TO GET BEHIND THE WHEEL WHEN I'VE PUT BACK SIX SHIRLEY TEMPLES OK

:patriot:

Cock Sucker posted:

Yeah computers are loving dumb. Javascript, a language that has nothing to do with Java and was just cranked out in like 10 days by a guy to animate frivolous poo poo in the old Netscape browser has somehow come to be the development language of basically all modern network applications. It is such a terrible language that you don't even program in it directly anymore. You write in some derivative language bolted onto it meant to address the many terrible things about Javascript and then 'transpile' it over so your browser can run it. It's loving insane.

I learned basic web development in 2005. Our instructor constantly dissuaded us from using javascript anywhere, due to the security concerns and processing issues etc. Then AJAX got more and more popular/useful, users liked the slick animations and effects it can do, and the next thing you know javascript is de facto mandatory to browse the internet.

Fast forward to the present and I'm a developer and gently caress javascript with its 100000 flavors. I just want to use vanilla and jQuery until the loving sun dies. No I'm not pissed I have to learn react for two new projects started by other devs why do you ask?

And don't even get me started on load times and optimization. Your page is a loving 10 field form and four paragraphs of copy I shouldn't need 8GB of RAM for it to load in less than 10 seconds over a high speed connection.

Generally related phone chat: latest version of the spotify app on iOS seems to run like poo poo compared to the old one :(

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

coke posted:

Most of the gimmick like the latest foldable screen and even 5G are somewhat bullshit.

But saying better raw cpu speed being bullshit is kinda dumb too. Otherwise no one really need a faster cpu or gpu on the desktop either.

That's a weird comparison because apps on my phone don't have graphics settings or enb files and whatever.

coke
Jul 12, 2009

COMRADES posted:

That's a weird comparison because apps on my phone don't have graphics settings or enb files and whatever.


your mobile game is a piece of poo poo

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop

Ardemia posted:

I learned basic web development in 2005. Our instructor constantly dissuaded us from using javascript anywhere, due to the security concerns and processing issues etc. Then AJAX got more and more popular/useful, users liked the slick animations and effects it can do, and the next thing you know javascript is de facto mandatory to browse the internet.

Fast forward to the present and I'm a developer and gently caress javascript with its 100000 flavors. I just want to use vanilla and jQuery until the loving sun dies. No I'm not pissed I have to learn react for two new projects started by other devs why do you ask?

And don't even get me started on load times and optimization. Your page is a loving 10 field form and four paragraphs of copy I shouldn't need 8GB of RAM for it to load in less than 10 seconds over a high speed connection.

Don't import JavaScript I didn't write, that's my golden rule. In 3 years nothing has been impossible for me yet. Never had to worry about JavaScript's "flavors", slow page loading times, shady tracking poo poo, or JQuery and its total redundancy as of the last few years. Raw es6 has been fine. It's not just for trivial stuff either, I've been making interactive tutorials with lots of 3D graphics canvases and live readouts / controls this way.

The pitfalls of the current JavaScript culture of importing packages for even trivial things has been the focus of studies like this one: http://das.encs.concordia.ca/uploads/2017/07/Abdalkareem_FSE2017.pdf

OXBALLS DOT COM posted:

Ecma sounds almost as bad as the old ligma implementations

ligma balls bitch! really set yourself up for that one eh. smh

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

coke posted:

Most of the gimmick like the latest foldable screen and even 5G are somewhat bullshit.

But saying better raw cpu speed being bullshit is kinda dumb too. Otherwise no one really need a faster cpu or gpu on the desktop either.

I don't think anyone is saying that faster cpus are bad but rather that it'd be stupid to buy the most expensive desktop possible if you're just browsing the internet and playing YouTube videos

Like yeah I would rather have a gtx 1060 than a gtx 660 gpu. But lol there's no way that I would shell out a ton of money for an SLI system running a pair of TITANs, people who do that are really dumb.

E: It's cool that iPhones have powerful processors no one is saying otherwise

QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Mar 10, 2019

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

QuarkJets posted:

I don't think anyone is saying that faster cpus are bad but rather that it'd be stupid to buy the most expensive desktop possible if you're just browsing the internet and playing YouTube videos

Like yeah I would rather have a gtx 1060 than a gtx 660 gpu. But lol there's no way that I would shell out a ton of money for an SLI system running a pair of TITANs, people who do that are really dumb.

E: It's cool that iPhones have powerful processors no one is saying otherwise

Had to google that, and holy :laffo: at the price.

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

coke posted:



your mobile game is a piece of poo poo

lol pubg mobile is poo poo hth

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Man I wish my old rear end android was able to browse the internet and use YouTube

Oh wait it excels at those things lol

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
But but it will take 0.2 seconds longer to load a thread on somethingawful.com!

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









QuarkJets posted:

Man I wish my old rear end android was able to browse the internet and use YouTube

Oh wait it excels at those things lol

i bet you wish you could sync documents across different devices friend have you considered gettign a real phone :smuggo:

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

sebmojo posted:

i bet you wish you could sync documents across different devices friend have you considered gettign a real phone :smuggo:

Yeah and it sucks that android phones aren't able to be charged via USB but rather require an old-timey hand crank

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

QuarkJets posted:

Yeah and it sucks that android phones aren't able to be charged via USB but rather require an old-timey hand crank

I actually have a hand crank for recharging my android phone. it's just in case there is a nuclear war I want to be able to play snes emulators.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
snes emulators will install on an android phone but you will find them quite unplayable. the atari 2600 emulation is flawless though

Happy Thread
Jul 10, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Plaster Town Cop
hope you like playing E.T.

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax
Only iPhones can play PSP games flawlessly but you need to jailbreak for SNES emulation. It's true.

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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

I heard that the iPhone turns piss into mountain dew, anyone want to piss on theirs and confirm/deny

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