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Abroham Lincoln posted:the best part of that show was heel sami That absolutely ruled. It was a good Raw but people are going to remember it badly because of the dumb ending.
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Astro7x posted:So Lars, Zane, surprise Undertaker... did I miss any other surprises tonight? Richard Spencer
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Power Windows posted:Trump That’s true. He’s fake rich though.
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Astro7x posted:So Lars, Zane, surprise Undertaker... did I miss any other surprises tonight? lack of big dawg lacy actually did something
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As someone who doesn't watch RAW every week so isn't judging this show from the perspective of "did I enjoy the show this week more than I did last week?" but rather "did this episode engage me to come back for more next week?" there was absolutely nothing I saw on that show that gives me a single reason to want to watch RAW again next week. Except the New Day. Who I understand aren't RAW roster members. And they're easily cancelled out by the loving neo nazi skinhead.
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Jerusalem posted:That absolutely ruled. Infidel Castro posted:Sami was right.
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going to reiterate what I said in the mania thread that I watch raw every week but haven't watched a takeover since the ironwoman match what is wrong with me
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Gumball Gumption posted:It was really decent but had a bunch of racists show up and then a wet fart ending Almost literally nobody believed the match would be anything but a DQ and while a I agree the Bar are the limpest choice possible it doesn’t erase the entire rest of the show being sports entertaining.
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Intruder posted:going to reiterate what I said in the mania thread that I watch raw every week but haven't watched a takeover since the ironwoman match Dude what the gently caress 
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Intruder posted:going to reiterate what I said in the mania thread that I watch raw every week but haven't watched a takeover since the ironwoman match Double Or Nothing is next month if you want an alternative but don't watch Takeover
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Jerusalem posted:That absolutely ruled. Wrestling fans have a much shorter memory than they give themselves credit for. There was a serious debate on this forum yesterday whether Becky winning on a botched crucifix that got a huge pop in the stadium would kill Becky’s heat and she wouldn’t be received well on Raw. Nobody remembered.
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Chris James 2 posted:Double Or Nothing is next month if you want an alternative but don't watch Takeover Oh hey they did my plug for me https://twitter.com/WrestlingTravel/status/1115447401924517888
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Ha. Roman was there and they just kept him off tv. That's funny.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:the best part of that show was heel sami This, and Becky with two belts.
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Angry Grimace posted:Wrestling fans have a much shorter memory than they give themselves credit for. This is largely true but I also think the final call on things like that can’t be made until they get away from the Mania crowd. The hardcore aren’t gonna take that out on Becky. It’s whether or not the casual fans on your standard weekly episodes are going to care more or less or just plateau where they are.
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sportsgenius86 posted:This is largely true but I also think the final call on things like that can’t be made until they get away from the Mania crowd. Like most things in life its not about some big moment, its about a million little ones. Some terrible booking won't turn away a million fans at once. But repeated bad things take a toll and you drop fans as you go. I don't know if anyone stopped watching WWE because of the way Becky was booked or turned on her. Or because Lars showed up. Or because they bait and switched their main event. Or whatever. But the "short memory" defense ignores basic human nature that poo poo adds up over time and eventually people just get tired of things.
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Yeah, I've been popping back to WWE because of Becky and Kofi and I enjoyed the show tonight but I think Lars is a sign that I'm done watching again. Good job on WWE and RoH racing to the bottom over Wrestlemania weekend.
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Intruder posted:What happened with RoH I've seen a few comments now they just suck now and they hired enzo
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STAC Goat posted:Like most things in life its not about some big moment, its about a million little ones. Some terrible booking won't turn away a million fans at once. But repeated bad things take a toll and you drop fans as you go. Also Hogan's appearance on the show last night. The racist white lady getting thrust into a feud against the biggest star in the company with two titles. The much derided around here but relevant to a chunk of the fanbase piece on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver. I'm starting to feel really crummy about giving this company my NINE NINETY NINE for Wrestlemania. 
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Intruder posted:What happened with RoH I've seen a few comments now G1 Supercard was embarrassingly bad for RoH. None of their guys (except Cobb) were over and their stuff was either booked badly or just average at best. NJPW ridiculously outclassed them. Like, it was night and day.
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sportsgenius86 posted:This is largely true but I also think the final call on things like that can’t be made until they get away from the Mania crowd. I'm not disagreeing with your premise but it feels like goalpost shifting to say that the test was whether they would respond well on Raw the next day and then ask about a totally different crowd. Becky isn't gonna get bigger than main eventing WrestleMania. She's already one of the biggest women's stars in wrestling history. Honestly, Ronda botching that pin is probably the a better outcome long-term if they're going to pick that program up because that wasn't the conclusive ending people wanted regardless. WWE themselves hosed that up by having Corey bitch about the finish seconds after it happened. If they just said "cool Becky rules" then people would have just chalked it up to Ronda being green and they could wait for Ronda herself to complain about the finish whenever she shows up again. The show in general was good, it was just a curious (and IMO bad) decision to have the Bar specifically show up after the match got going. Why the Bar?! They could have achieved the same result by having Rollins tease accepting the match and then have the offending team show up in the opening segment so it didn't feel like a stupid intentional let-down, even though nobody in their right mind could have possibly believed they were gonna have either guy drop the title the next day on Raw.
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Banjo posted:For the record, I agree with Sami Zayn Yeah, that's the stuff.
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BGrifter posted:Also Hogan's appearance on the show last night. The racist white lady getting thrust into a feud against the biggest star in the company with two titles. The much derided around here but relevant to a chunk of the fanbase piece on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver. Throwing Lacey Evans in there without including Taker makes you sound like an idiot hth
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PASS THE MASH posted:Throwing Lacey Evans in there without including Taker makes you sound like an idiot hth I wasn't aiming to post a comprehensive list. But yeah, Taker is a piece of poo poo too. No need to be so hostile. We can all agree WWE is a terrible company employing and actively pushing terrible racist scumbags.
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Jerusalem posted:I know he was absent because of surgery, but Sami showing up looking in incredible shape was yet another example of why a rotating off-season for parts of the roster would be a good loving idea. i wish they would have rotated Sami in the other direction as he was making his way to the ring
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Sheamus at Raw after a Wrestlemania is audience poison. Look up April 8th, 2013 Raw near the end of Raw when the crowd shits all over his match. Why would they do that again? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI8267jzicc
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Faustian Bargain posted:Undertaker looks ric flair level bad. Why is he still around? he does the long entrance and the tombstone op
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Faustian Bargain posted:Undertaker looks ric flair level bad. Why is he still around? Have you not seen Flair lately Taker looks pretty good for a guy his age, good enough to be confident about going shirtless
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Intruder posted:going to reiterate what I said in the mania thread that I watch raw every week but haven't watched a takeover since the ironwoman match Insanely cursed post
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