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| New Dark Age |
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26 | 47.27% |
| The Benevolent Dictator |
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19 | 34.55% |
| The Invisible Hand |
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10 | 18.18% |
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I’m going to get a large tattoo on my back commemorating Louis Pan. 
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Apr 19, 2019 06:28
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El_Elegante posted:Peter Thiel, billionaire and philosophy major would like to have a word with you in the abbatoir where he harvests the blood of the young. the only thing separating peter thiel from an otherkin is a couple hundred million acts of wage theft
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Apr 19, 2019 06:44
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJL_L5_4vso
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Apr 19, 2019 07:00
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Arrhythmia posted:You're talking passed me. You're arguing that Tracer's ending is the bad ending because it involves incalculable human suffering; and you're not wrong. Billions of people will die because of Tracer, and quality of life will decrease dramatically for an unknowable period of time. I'm arguing that the only reason it is the bad ending is that you have read it as the bad ending. You put the lives of billions on one side of the scale, and all civil liberties on the other, and read the way it tipped. But this was your reading of the game. Deus Ex doesn't have it's thumb on the scale like, say, Myst does, where two endings involve you trapped in an abyss for eternity having freed a murderous tyrant, and the third has you save an innocent man. You can say Tracer is wrong, and that his ending is the bad ending, but it's not Deus Ex saying this. lol are you seriously falling back to the "this is the original intent of the work, says this really tortured definition of what original intent means" horseshit that middle school english teachers use to bludgeon people over the head with board-approved interpretations of huck finn as your defense for calling someone names keep it in comp 101 dude, irl when people take in culture with more thoughtfulness than glitz, the point of the exercise is causing someone to think about it and apply it elsewhere, not come to some One True Conclusion so you can huff the author's BO.
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Apr 19, 2019 07:22
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I didnt like any of the endings, nor did any of my friends, and we tried to find a fourth ending for ages
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Apr 19, 2019 07:29
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Coolguye posted:lol are you seriously falling back to the "this is the original intent of the work, says this really tortured definition of what original intent means" horseshit that middle school english teachers use to bludgeon people over the head with board-approved interpretations of huck finn as your defense for calling someone names I have no idea what in Arrhythmia's post would have provoked this response they were pretty specifically arguing that the game leaves the relative morality of each of the endings up to interpretation
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Apr 19, 2019 07:33
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Cubone posted:I have no idea what in Arrhythmia's post would have provoked this response this junk about "well it's not the game saying this, and therefore you are a buffoon" as a justification for browbeating someone over the way they processed the game is dumb as hell if you have a different way of seeing things that's fine, but when you try to put yourself up on a pedestal or put other people down over the crime of engaging their reasoning on something you're just an rear end in a top hat. e: i think the big confusion is that i wasn't offering a critique on doo sex at all i was just saying it is majorly dumbtarded to base an insult on that ridiculous reasoning. the idea that i was 'talking past' anyone on the interpretation of endings was weird to begin with because i never lodged an interpretation on the matter. Coolguye fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Apr 19, 2019 |
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Apr 19, 2019 07:37
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Coolguye posted:this junk about "well it's not the game saying this, and therefore you are a buffoon" as a justification for browbeating someone over the way they processed the game is dumb as hell it looks like Big Dick Cheney asked an honest question about an interpretation, Nigmaetcetera gave an honest clarification that may have implied a little more intentionality on the developers' part than was certain, Arrhythmia took exception to that and gave a rebuttal that may have implied a little less respect for the interpretation itself than was fair, and you took exception to that so, you're both arguing that one interpretation of the text doesn't invalidate another, right? it's just, Arrhythmia thought that that was what Nigmaetcetera was doing, and you thought that it was what Arrhythmia was doing... right? idk I'm not saying like kiss and make up, just seemed weird to me from the outside
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Apr 19, 2019 08:29
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illuminati is maintain the status quo tong is disastrously roll the clock back on civilization both those options at best just put off the eventual installation of a single person controlling the world behind the scenes and leave the world at risk of that person being evil helios is take control yourself
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Apr 19, 2019 09:56
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Jesus Christ Denton.
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Apr 19, 2019 10:22
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You would think I had told people that their mother sucks cocks in hell over the way they reacted to "buffoon".
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Apr 19, 2019 14:22
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Coolguye posted:"well it's not the game saying this, and therefore you are a buffoon" I'm specifically arguing the exact opposite. Saying that dues ex says tracer's ending is a canonically bad one makes you a buffoon, saying Tracer's ending is a bad ending is an entirely reasonable reading.
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Apr 19, 2019 14:26
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Bob Page fucks, right?
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Apr 19, 2019 14:46
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El_Elegante posted:Bob Page fucks, right? Fucks Walter Simmons in my epic 3,000 page fanfiction
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Apr 19, 2019 14:47
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If someone asks, "do you want to be an immortal and nigh all mighty god?" of course you say yes. Sure you might gently caress up and kill everyone but it's not like there's a scoreboard and you'll still probably do better than most gods from mythology. Not that it matters, regular morality doesn't apply to omnipotent beings.
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Apr 19, 2019 14:50
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Yeah, Deus Ex is absolutely the kind of power fantasy where the most selfish option is perfectly acceptable. I think I’ve pretty much always chosen Helios, but in pretty much any other game I go a more selfless route.
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Apr 19, 2019 14:53
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Stark Fist posted:“If you don't support Helios at 20 you have no heart, if not a supporter of Tracer Tong at 40 you have no brain” he has no style, he has no grace, this tong has doomed the human race
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Apr 19, 2019 16:14
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Personally I enjoy the ending where I repeatedly pepper spray Louis Pan and then get gunned down by Hong Kong police.
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Apr 19, 2019 17:28
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is there any guarantee that Helios re-organizing society wouldn't also kill a lot of people?
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Apr 19, 2019 17:33
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Big Dick Cheney posted:is there any guarantee that Helios re-organizing society wouldn't also kill a lot of people? No.
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Apr 19, 2019 19:34
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YagotmeIdidit posted:DX2 kinda sucks. It gets +1 for letting you KILL THE YOUNGLINGS
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Apr 19, 2019 19:40
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When I merge with helios all you fuckers picking new dark ages are gonna regret it.
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Apr 19, 2019 20:55
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El_Elegante posted:Yeah, Deus Ex is absolutely the kind of power fantasy where the most selfish option is perfectly acceptable  you play the role of a 23 year old guy who on his second or third day of his first job manages to wrest control of global power from people who have fought for it their whole lives/held it for generations take note millenials. this is what 23 year olds who applied themselves used to do all the time. and you just know jc had a firm handshake Big Dick Cheney posted:is there any guarantee that Helios re-organizing society wouldn't also kill a lot of people? gary oldmans diary fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Apr 19, 2019 |
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Apr 19, 2019 23:52
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gary oldmans diary posted:if you see it as a power fantasy where you serve yourself you dont deserve to merge with helios JC's handshake is augmented, that's hardly a fair comparison
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Apr 20, 2019 00:11
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gary oldmans diary posted:.....23 year old.... A very old looking/sounding 23 year old.
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Apr 20, 2019 01:16
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Barudak posted:I didnt like any of the endings, nor did any of my friends, and we tried to find a fourth ending for ages the best part of mass effect 3 was the fourth ending they added after release
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Apr 23, 2019 01:28
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SciFiDownBeat posted:the best part of mass effect 3 was the fourth ending they added after release Yeah i unironically agree.
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