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There'd be a nest inside the raptor pen, though, and we know the raptors don't clean that up, because fossil record. And the baby raptors would have to slip out while they were small enough to get through the bars, but we also know that the raptors took good care of the babies. You know, I'm beginning to think that Michael Crichton didn't think this through all the way. The movie is way better than the book.
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Gennaro randomly dying of dysentery right after the book is kind of funny seeing how Malcolm gets brought back from the dead.
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Oct 21, 2019 19:38
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Requesting name change to solid snake boat raptors
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Oct 21, 2019 19:46
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ante posted:There'd be a nest inside the raptor pen, though, and we know the raptors don't clean that up, because fossil record. And the baby raptors would have to slip out while they were small enough to get through the bars, but we also know that the raptors took good care of the babies. They specifically mention that nobody is going into the raptor pen anymore because it's too dangerous (so the nest presumably wouldn't be noticed) and isn't there something about how even though the raptors are nocturnal, nobody was monitoring the cameras at night or something like that? Edit: not quite how I remember it, but still lol: quote:"That's right," Grant said. "Except that the raptors and the compys that are loose in the park plainswalker75 fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Oct 21, 2019 19:58
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plainswalker75 posted:"Raptors are nocturnal," he said. "Is anyone watching the park at night?" "How do you know this just from digging up their bones?"
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Oct 21, 2019 20:05
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pooch516 posted:"How do you know this just from digging up their bones?" The bones are pale and white. Duh.
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Oct 21, 2019 20:11
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pooch516 posted:"How do you know this just from digging up their bones?" "The same way we knew T. Rex's vision is based on movement."
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Oct 21, 2019 21:13
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Imagined posted:"The same way we knew T. Rex's vision is based on movement." He didn’t in the book.
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Oct 22, 2019 00:38
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Animal-Mother posted:Only thing I can remember from the books is that Crichton really loves GORE-TEX. Everyone does now, it has its own fandom. Ahead of the curve as always     https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/goretexhoarders/ There's even people who get gore tex sewn into their bodies now 
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plainswalker75 posted:They specifically mention that nobody is going into the raptor pen anymore because it's too dangerous (so the nest presumably wouldn't be noticed) and isn't there something about how even though the raptors are nocturnal, nobody was monitoring the cameras at night or something like that? Do they not have cameras in the raptor pen that would spot the nests? I mean, it isn't as if the nests would move during the day. It seems like a weird oversight to have cameras EVERYWHERE but the one paddock holding the most dangerous creatures on the island.
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Oct 23, 2019 06:23
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That enclosure was probably put together hastily on short notice, and lol at anyone getting in there to install cameras afterwards.
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Oct 23, 2019 06:38
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Great thing about the book is you can read these kinds of narrative problems either as Crichton being a dumbass or as InGen being dumbasses and it makes just as much sense either way
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Oct 23, 2019 14:21
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The raptor nest is not physically inside of the Raptor "pen." There is an exchange in the book where they discuss how naturally big cats do not attack humans, but once they learn that humans are quite easy to kill, they will then hunt humans. This is to set up the difference between the animals. The captive raptors have hurt humans before and learned how easy they are to hunt (the opening scene where Ed Regis flies the workman into the village doctor). The wild raptors have never seen or interacted with a human. The escaped raptors are loose, the fences being off helps them move around in theory but they can move around anyway, they have not (to anyone's knowledge) ever hurt a large animal or human. I still think the most reasonable explanation for the Raptor Nest Excursion is that: Grant was full of absolute poo poo and his loving life's dream was to see an actual raptor nest. He would have said that the raptor nest was full of hot strippers if it got them to go down and look at it. It makes a lot more sense if you imagine a guy who just went through all that poo poo and decides he's seeing these loving raptors before he leaves this hellhole, no matter how much of a prick he has to be.
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Oct 25, 2019 17:33
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 Amazing new pin and you know Ya Boi sweetThurs is going to bring the wizard skills on the 1s and 2s
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Oct 25, 2019 17:43
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Stern is poo, give me the Data East.
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Oct 25, 2019 17:50
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Ghostnuke posted:Stern is poo, give me the Data East. All good pinball tables and companies are good and fun
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I don't really think there's a lot of basis for this idea that the wild raptors are that different from the caged ones, they all had to be bred from caged raptors in the first place. it's established that the raptors have a lot of social structure for raising their young and birds today have demonstrated knowledge being passed from generation to generation. Besides that I don't see why an offhand comparison to a completely unrelated animal is supposed to be taken as scientific fact anyway and not just a scary thing to build suspense in the story
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Oct 25, 2019 17:54
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sweet thursday posted:All good pinball tables and companies are good and fun Or all of the money on the swipe card. W/e
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Oct 25, 2019 18:49
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The price of pinball has vastly exceeded inflation, it was 3 plays for a dollar like 25 years ago now its triple that! I like pinball but gently caress it's expensive now (also, I suck.)
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purple death ray posted:I don't really think there's a lot of basis for this idea that the wild raptors are that different from the caged ones, they all had to be bred from caged raptors in the first place. it's established that the raptors have a lot of social structure for raising their young and birds today have demonstrated knowledge being passed from generation to generation. It's not but within the story that's obviously what Crichton meant and why he added that setup. I mean as usual how i feel is the entire thing is fictional counterfactuals stacked on fictional counterfactuals. Like the whole "these are really utahraptors thing," within the sci fi setting of JP that's definitely the author's intention between the different raptor groups, it's not a weird headcanon brain twist to make it all fit. Again raptors have been loose in the park for months/a year or so and not a single person was hurt.
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charity rereg posted:It's not but within the story that's obviously what Crichton meant and why he added that setup. I mean as usual how i feel is the entire thing is fictional counterfactuals stacked on fictional counterfactuals. Really you can come up with a lot of explanations but personally I'd rather chalk that up to Crichton not thinking about it that much than do the work for him by coming up with in universe explanations for that kind of thing
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Plus again, the wild raptors on the boat dont kill anyone. They make the big old sea voyage to the mainland undetected until the last possible moment and would have peacefully disembarked if Grant wasn't an rear end in a top hat.
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Oct 25, 2019 21:30
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Grant can’t help being an rear end in a top hat, he’s a scientist
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*Raptor shaking front paw in anger* "And we would have made it if it wasn't for that meddling paleontologist!"
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