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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

dead prez posted:

michael mann does the best action scenes. and bank heists

I don't know about anyone else, but "The Insider" was a big departure for him, and it kept me on the edge of my seat the whole 8 hours.

Blistex fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Oct 27, 2019

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dead prez
Sep 22, 2019

Everytime I look around, I see
So much drama goin down
Everytime I look around, I see
So much fakeness goin down

Blistex posted:

I don't know about anyone else, but "The Informant" was a big departure for him, and it kept me on the edge of my seat the whole 8 hours.

i should check it out!

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

dead prez posted:

i should check it out!

poo poo, I meant "The Insider".

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

otter posted:

My brother and I were talking about this tonight since I had taken my kids to see the new Addams Family movie. He’s taking his kids in a few days. Overall it was ok for kids but lacking in the more subtle adult humor.

there has been like a dozen versions of the Adams Family. i don't know if you can call it "remakes" at this point. its something different

dead prez
Sep 22, 2019

Everytime I look around, I see
So much drama goin down
Everytime I look around, I see
So much fakeness goin down

Blistex posted:

poo poo, I meant "The Insider".

same

dead prez
Sep 22, 2019

Everytime I look around, I see
So much drama goin down
Everytime I look around, I see
So much fakeness goin down
do you think matrix 4 will be a remake

immortalyawn
May 28, 2013

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Its safe to say MOST remakes are bad.

Also, youre making a film and point #1 is you have no original ideas.

The Cockler
Mar 31, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
not on their own, but when you add a profit motive and the idea that name recognition alone predicts baseline unit movement better than say, casting a specific celebrity, you wind up here, in hell.

kazr
Jan 28, 2005

The cowboy bebop remake is gonna "pownes bones" xD

EvilTobaccoExec
Dec 22, 2003

Criminals are a superstitious, cowardly lot, so my disguise must be able to strike terror into their hearts!
Most everything is bad

dead prez
Sep 22, 2019

Everytime I look around, I see
So much drama goin down
Everytime I look around, I see
So much fakeness goin down
especially when its about money

down n out
Sep 16, 2008

Nap Ghost

quote:

Movie studios are in fierce competition with streaming services to produce content that’ll pique viewers’ interests and get them to leave their homes. Because of the influx in entertainment choices, people may be less inclined to go to the movies and risk walking away feeling dissatisfied, but if the film is playing the latest installment in a franchise or a remake of an old favorite, they may be more likely to get off the couch.


Creative bankruptcy to the T.

down n out fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Oct 27, 2019

Escape_GOAT
May 20, 2004

roarpower posted:

tom holland is the best spider-man

This is unironically true.

ElectricSheep
Jan 14, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

kazr posted:

The cowboy bebop remake is gonna "pownes bones" xD

my favorite post on SA about it came after john cho blew out his knee and someone pointed out he was just method acting spike spiegel

Icochet
Mar 18, 2008

I have a very small TV. Don't make fun of it! Please don't shame it like that~

Grimey Drawer
Jagged alliance Back In Action was so, so bad.

BigBadSteve
Apr 29, 2009

I'm enjoying the remake of GBS.

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!

Arrhythmia posted:

Someone should remake the bible

LOL at this guy who hasn't read the Book of Mormon or watched the musical.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Atlas Risen posted:

This is unironically true.

It totally is

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


BigBadSteve posted:

I'm enjoying the remake of GBS.

What version are we on now?

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

otter posted:

My brother and I were talking about this tonight since I had taken my kids to see the new Addams Family movie. He’s taking his kids in a few days. Overall it was ok for kids but lacking in the more subtle adult humor.

Remakes like this make me slightly angry because they took a hilariously awesome iconic 90s family movie with a unique gothic style and spooky edge and goddamn Raul Julia, Christopher Lloyd and Anjelica Huston, and remade it as a generic upbeat boring Despicable Me style CG thing. Zzzzz.

The Addams Family is a Halloween movie classic that delighted me as a kid, so it's just sad to see. Kids are not stupid like cynical movie executives think they are and they can appreciate more then the lowest effort garbage... and the adults sitting next to them shouldn't be put to sleep either.

Cough Drop The Beat fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Oct 27, 2019

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

Remakes like this make me slightly angry because they took a hilariously awesome iconic 90s family movie with a unique gothic style and spooky edge and goddamn Raul Julia, Christopher Lloyd and Anjelica Huston, and remade it as a generic upbeat boring Despicable Me style CG thing. Zzzzz.

The Addams Family is a Halloween movie classic that delighted me as a kid, so it's just sad to see. Kids are not stupid like cynical movie executives think they are and they can appreciate more then the lowest effort garbage... and the adults sitting next to them shouldn't be put to sleep either.

The Addams Family started out as comics in the late 1930s. This new CGI Addams Family movie is more or less based on the comics and not the 1960s TV show or the 1990s movies.

It may or may not have have elements from the latter two, but I don’t consider it a remake, but an adaptation of the comics, much like the 1990s movies are adaptations of the 1960s TV show.

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer
Maybe but no one's going to go the distance on processing all that, they're going to say, "We had two good live action movies when I was a kid and this one looks like poo poo." And they're right.

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

Yep. Still giving the new movie a hard pass. Raul Julia will always be Gomez Addams in my heart :kiddo:

Entorwellian
Jun 30, 2006

Northern Flicker
Anna's Hummingbird

Sorry, but the people have spoken.



Video game-wise, xcom enemy unknown was a very well done remake. With movies, only one I can think of is the blob.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

ElectricSheep posted:

my favorite post on SA about it came after john cho blew out his knee and someone pointed out he was just method acting spike spiegel

hahaha I think that was me. If they were truly smart they'd go on and get all his convalescing scenes out of the way right now

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

You Are A Elf posted:

Yep. Still giving the new movie a hard pass. Raul Julia will always be Gomez Addams in my heart :kiddo:

:same:

Raul Julia is the man and I love him.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

The Cockler posted:

not on their own, but when you add a profit motive and the idea that name recognition alone predicts baseline unit movement better than say, casting a specific celebrity, you wind up here, in hell.

down n out posted:

Creative bankruptcy to the T.
yeah pretty much. hollywoo is largely design-by-algo focus-tested2death and creatively bankrupt. a lot of remakes are just lazy cashgrabs because eh it somewhat worked before, lets just redo that

there are some good remakes that have passion or worked well, i think a lot of them already mentioned: Dredd, True Grit, The Thing 1982, The Mummy 1995 (newer one sucked), The Departed, The Fly, Invasion of Body Snatchers (basically cronenberg is good), Heat, and a few others.

some others not mentioned:
BSG remake was mostly good and better than the original. i think its generally rare to remake a TV show but it worked well
Suspiria
Girl with Dragon Tattoo
310 to yuma
cape fear
casino royale
scarface
oceans 11

if there's actually talent (like cronenberg, carpenter, mann, scorsese, coen bros, etc) behind the directors chair and a passionate team, they work; however, that's increasingly more rare each year. note most of the good remakes mentioned are like 80s-90s with a few 00s ones. remakes like new robo cop are pure trash

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
I think it's been touched on a lot in this thread, but the "committee interference" and "test group feedback" have gotten out of control in the past few decades. During the "New Hollywood" era, you had directors being given free reign, and they created a lot of timeless classics and box-office juggernauts. The studios appreciated this, but those same directors also made a lot of artsy films that made little profit or bombed. Hollywood is a money-making business, and the studios want to protect their investments and the shareholders want to make money.

Remakes are usually seen as a safe bet.

I remember a story about (I think) the original Dirty Harry movie being made, and Clint Eastwood having to physically stand in the doorway to the editing booth to keep the studio execs from getting their grubby hands on Don Siegel and Carl Pingitore while they were editing. If you don't have a director who has that kind of power, or a star willing to stand up to the suits, then you end up with a vanilla "by the numbers" movie that appeals to a wider audience, but never has a chance to be great. Then again it can go the other way and a star/director gets too big and you end up with "The Guru" or something else that fails because the director has lost touch.

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Chrs posted:

Videogame remakes are usually good.

Movie remakes generally passable or just bad.

Book remakes I can’t think of one. Someone should remake some books.

Wicked? Half of Macguire's books are just retellings of fairytales but with twists or changes in perspective, I think.

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

If we're talkin' Disney, the Aladdin live-action remake is pretty great. Will Smith made the genie his own instead of parroting Robin Williams. Mena Massoud owned as Aladdin.

Cinderella is also pretty groovy. Everything else sucked.

roarpower
Jul 11, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

You Are A Elf posted:

If we're talkin' Disney, the Aladdin live-action remake is pretty great. Will Smith made the genie his own instead of parroting Robin Williams. Mena Massoud owned as Aladdin.

Cinderella is also pretty groovy. Everything else sucked.

we weren't, but that's good to know.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

ElectricSheep posted:

I really liked Zack Snyder's 2004 Dawn of the Dead remake.

Also how has nobody brought up the far, FAR superior Dredd remake how dare you

Dredd was a francise reboot but yeah. 90% of all remakes are just rushed out for brand recognition sales and rights extensions. The ones with competent directors who actually care about giving the fans an enjoyable movie are the rare exception.

You Are A Elf posted:

If we're talkin' Disney, the Aladdin live-action remake is pretty great. Will Smith made the genie his own instead of parroting Robin Williams. Mena Massoud owned as Aladdin.

lol

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Woden posted:

Heat is a remake and it owns.

Having seen Heat first, I was confused as hell when I saw the low budget, made for tv, original later.

It started off feeling familiar, then there were some identical scenes and I couldn't believe that someone had made such a blatant knock-off and how did they think they could get away with it?

roarpower
Jul 11, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

kazr posted:

The cowboy bebop remake is gonna "pownes bones" xD

cowboy bebop is my favorite Japanimation. When is going to be done again?

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!

Xaris posted:

BSG remake was mostly good and better than the original. i think its generally rare to remake a TV show but it worked well

Remaking Battlestar Galactica seemed like a pretty safe bet. The original is complete 80's cheese, though I did enjoy John Colicos performance as Baltar.

roarpower
Jul 11, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

tango alpha delta posted:

Remaking Battlestar Galactica seemed like a pretty safe bet. The original is complete 80's cheese, though I did enjoy John Colicos performance as Baltar.

Jarhead is the best war movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C3CjOkF-jY

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Vice President
Jul 4, 2007

I'm number two around here.

everyone's looking forward to the SA forums remake, am I right?

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