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I think I would describe this as a movie that is set in a war, rather than a warmovie. It's not a movie about the war in itself. Kind of like Ad Astra isn't really about space exploration, it just uses that setting to play around with other ideas.
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This isn't how it was in reality, though. The proportion of ordinary soldiers (British Army) KIA in WW1 was 12%. General officers (Brigadier and above) was 18.5%, officers in general (2LT and up) was 17%. Eton (big posh school) lost 20% of those who served, and it can be reasonably assumed that they all did so as officers. According to John Ellis' 'Eye Deep in Hell: Trench Warfare in WWI', subalterns (2LT & 1LT) had a mortality rate of 65-81%. Andrew Scott's character was definitely of one of those ranks; no wonder he seemed to stoical about the whole situation.
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duckmaster posted:This isn't how it was in reality, though. The proportion of ordinary soldiers (British Army) KIA in WW1 was 12%. General officers (Brigadier and above) was 18.5%, officers in general (2LT and up) was 17%. Eton (big posh school) lost 20% of those who served, and it can be reasonably assumed that they all did so as officers. That may be so, but in the context of the movie, they clearly weren't in obvious danger.
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Feb 4, 2020 20:08
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The biggest takeaway I got from this movie is that we are being criminally deprived by the lack of Mark Strong playing Ibram Gaunt.
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Feb 7, 2020 03:06
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Mark Strong leaves a strong mark on any film.
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BigglesSWE posted:That may be so, but in the context of the movie, they clearly weren't in obvious danger. A more practical reason for the two leads being played by less well-known actors is that there are very few actors (especially British) in their late teens or early twenties who are stars, whereas there are lots on their 30s and 40s. Who is more famous and a good actor who could have played those roles at those ages? (I see a lot of casting discussions around younger actors, and generally one has to go with a less known name as there are so few well-known ones). Also, the officers clearly were in danger: Blake' brother was in great danger of the attack went forward. That is a key factor in the story. And why would the captain be crying if he wasn't terrified, because he was about to be in danger too? At one point the average life expectancy for a 2nd LT was something like 2 weeks. therattle fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Feb 7, 2020 |
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The point is that you cast unknowns as the characters that the audience can identify with, whereas the big name stars are people-you-would-not-be. We encounter them fleetingly but do not establish a relationship with them because they are too important, regardless of how sympathetic they are.
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Feb 7, 2020 19:47
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If you're a fan of the long take style of this, Long Day's Journey Into Night has a hour-long sequence with 0 cuts that has a ton of complex camera moves and is shot/shown in 3D. Pretty wild
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This is probably my favorite movie trivia ever https://twitter.com/mavericksmovies/status/1225860253595529216?s=21
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zer0spunk posted:If you're a fan of the long take style of this, Long Day's Journey Into Night has a hour-long sequence with 0 cuts that has a ton of complex camera moves and is shot/shown in 3D. Pretty wild It's funny, I remember next to nothing about the first half of that movie but I can picture that entire single shot 3D dream sequence very vividly.
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Alchenar posted:The point is that you cast unknowns as the characters that the audience can identify with, whereas the big name stars are people-you-would-not-be. We encounter them fleetingly but do not establish a relationship with them because they are too important, regardless of how sympathetic they are. I am pretty sure that they would have cast bigger names had they been available. A film of that budget would need names to support the marketing etc; they couldn't get them for the leads (where you'd usually have stars), so they packed the supporting roles with stars to up the wattage and give it a good ensemble. That is common in cases where the scope to cast stars as the lead (usually due to age) is limited. I know how these discussions go. If they wanted complete unknowns that nobody had any associations with they wouldn't have cast someone from GOT.
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