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Smiling Mandrill
Jan 19, 2015

Batterypowered7 posted:

Really? Puerto Ricans speak the most Anglicized Spanish out of the whole lot.

Maybe its just me but Puerto Rican Spanish always seems like its being spoken much faster, and more run together than Mexican Spanish.

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i must compose
Jul 4, 2010

Until the lions have their own historians, the history of the hunt will always glorify the hunter.
I went to Mexico City and studied Spanish before I went which was good because everyone said "oh you don't need to know Spanish everyone there speaks English, everyone" which is actually demonstrably wrong as gently caress. It was helpful because I got locked out on a fourth floor balcony and had to shout at passerby for help. I got back inside but it took forever. There was a locksmith who came and acted like he was gonna let me in but couldn't get the lock open so he just left me there and I forced the door open. Good thing there was a little grate to pee into. I probably sounded like an idiot but I was able to get by! In conclusion if you want to learn a language, lock yourself on a balcony with no way down.

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!
número equivocado

Saved me from someone's abuela who would NOT leave me alone.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Smiling Mandrill posted:

Maybe its just me but Puerto Rican Spanish always seems like its being spoken much faster, and more run together than Mexican Spanish.

There's a Tumbr screen cap that asks why Colombians speak Spanish like they're crying, why Dominicans speak Spanish like they've got a time limit, and Puerto Ricans speak it like they're speaking English. I grew up in Puerto Rico and have Colombian and Dominican friends and acquaintances and those are all pretty accurate.

Puerto Rican Spanish also has some extra quirks outside the seseo. A number of people replace Rs with Ls in some words (comel instead of comer), or the RR with a ח (that guttural sound like you're gonna spit out a loogie) sound (peחo instead of perro). It's kind of a countryside thing.

I also just looked up the B/V sound thing and it turns out that they're supposed to sound the same in standard Spanish (even in Spain), but that a few regions, such as Valencia, have distinct pronunciations for both. It makes sense that I thought the distinct sounds are the norm since I was born in Valencia and my mother's side of the family is all from there.

pogi
Jun 11, 2014

I dated a woman from Venezuela once and I could not understand her Spanish at all. But! She taught me phrases like: Camarón que se duerme, se lo lleva la corriente, or "the shrimp that falls asleep gets swept away in the current." She said a lot of Venezuelan proverbs have animal themes like that.

Jomo
Jul 11, 2009

i must compose posted:

I went to Mexico City and studied Spanish before I went which was good because everyone said "oh you don't need to know Spanish everyone there speaks English, everyone" which is actually demonstrably wrong as gently caress.

Lol, but actually this. I ended up doing a 3-month immersion course at a school in Spain a while ago and going from just "Hola" to being able to deal with people, shopping, making bookings over the phone etc. was a huge change. When I told people why I was there (as it was a common question) you could literally see the gears change and they suddenly became more friendly and welcoming since they weren't mentally binning you as another tourist. Also, when it comes to Spain, and Europe in general (bar Netherlands, Denmark & Switzerland), once you get outside the main tourist or metro-area you'll need more than just English to get by.

Aix
Jul 6, 2006
$10

Batterypowered7 posted:

same with B and V.
took me a while to see that movistar didnt get its name because of how you feel like a moviestar when youre using a cell phone

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Jomo posted:

Lol, but actually this. I ended up doing a 3-month immersion course at a school in Spain a while ago and going from just "Hola" to being able to deal with people, shopping, making bookings over the phone etc. was a huge change. When I told people why I was there (as it was a common question) you could literally see the gears change and they suddenly became more friendly and welcoming since they weren't mentally binning you as another tourist. Also, when it comes to Spain, and Europe in general (bar Netherlands, Denmark & Switzerland), once you get outside the main tourist or metro-area you'll need more than just English to get by.

My wife, my son, and I went to Spain a year and a half ago so my family could meet him for the first time (he was turning two years old). My family lives in the city of Valencia and I was honestly shocked by the amount of people that could speak English compared to the last time I had been there (2013).

pogi
Jun 11, 2014

What kind of music can y'all recommend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53hsFyX4Hh8
Mon Laferte came to my city a few years ago, I worked security for her show. Never heard of her before that. It was absolutely one of the best performances I've seen in my life, even if I only caught like every other word. Lady can sing.

My mexican friend introduced me to Natalia Lafourcade recently as well, her acoustic version of "Nunca es suficiente" is great.

pogi fucked around with this message at 20:38 on May 12, 2020

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

pogi posted:

What kind of music can y'all recommend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53hsFyX4Hh8
Mon Laferte came to my city a few years ago, I worked security for her show. Never heard of her before that. It was absolutely one of the best performances I've seen in my life, even if I only caught like every other word. Lady can sing.

My mexican friend introduced me to Natalia Lafourcade recently as well, her acoustic version of "Nunce es suficiente" is great.

I'm probably gonna date myself with some of my suggestions.

Bands:

-Maná (Mexico)
-Molotov (Mexico), specifically the Apocalypshit album
-Fiel a la Vega (Puerto Rico)
-Jarabe de Palo (Spain), specifically the La Flaca album
-El Mago de Oz (Spain)

Singles:

Enanitos Verdes - Lamento Boliviano
Willie Colón, Héctor Lavoe - Calle Luna, Calle Sol
Caramelos de Cianuro - Verónica
Miranda! - Ritmo y Decepción
Fangoria - El Cementerio de mis Sueños
La Oreja de Van Gogh - Rosas
Miguel Bose - Morenamía
Several songs by Juan Luis Guerra (Ojala Que Llueva Cafe; Burbujas de Amor; La Bilirrubina; El Niagara en Bicicleta)
Shakira's old stuff (Ciega, Sordomuda; Pies Descalzos, Sueños Blancos; Estoy Aquí; Donde Estás Corazón) and some of her newer stuff (La Tortura; Las de la Intuición)

-Edit-

Comedy Answer: Los Tucanes de Tijuana - La Chona

Batterypowered7 fucked around with this message at 20:28 on May 12, 2020

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler
I like looking up spanish translations of english songs. There's Kevin Karla y La Banda, and Dani Ride are the ones I'm most familiar with. Couple examples:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HAXvVahiuM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wOoHeYcBk

Edit one more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7bGGdcEruA

Edit2 last one i promise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bAVrRGyhlY

Dixville fucked around with this message at 21:27 on May 12, 2020

ShortyMR.CAT
Sep 25, 2008

:blastu::dogcited:
Lipstick Apathy
I prefer the banda/cumbia version of Drakes Passionfruit

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
More my speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4kjNe1ToOw

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Donde esta los "good posts" hombres?

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler
Como se dice "poo poo post" en español?

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler
A lot of people ask where to start learning spanish if they don't know it at all. What helped me a lot was memorising the most commonly used words. Make flashcards if it helps. Example:
https://spanishforyourjob.com/commonwords/

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe
Yo tango un Gato en mis pantaloons. :grin:

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010
I grew up in CA & work in restaurants so I knew some kitchen Spanish, but I took three years French in HS & three semesters Latin in college. I’ve spent some time in Mexico & Central America (Guatemala & Nicaragua) and am wanting to take a job with a mezcal company so I’ve been buckling down in learning Spanish the last three months. I was in Oaxaca for a week and a half right before COVID caused shelter in place orders (made it back to SF with 36 hours to spare!) and did well at the Mercado as long as people were willing to speak a little slowly for me.

Was about to start a tutor for an hour a week with some other mezcal folks when we got back, but instead I’m using Duolingo, YouTube, telemundo and two books.

Anyone want to study together online? I’m up in the boonies fixing my dads house for the next week and half but I’ll be back to internet access (beyond my phone) then

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

pogi posted:

What kind of music can y'all recommend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53hsFyX4Hh8
Mon Laferte came to my city a few years ago, I worked security for her show. Never heard of her before that. It was absolutely one of the best performances I've seen in my life, even if I only caught like every other word. Lady can sing.

My mexican friend introduced me to Natalia Lafourcade recently as well, her acoustic version of "Nunca es suficiente" is great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UbtTkx7xEY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la-S347HpCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-ZRqHFKYc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx5qVmtfayA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbneQDc2H3I

Lord Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.
I took Spanish for two years in high school, and learned exactly one thing. The Spanish teacher in my school actually was the hottest woman I've ever seen in my life.

ShortyMR.CAT
Sep 25, 2008

:blastu::dogcited:
Lipstick Apathy

Frankenstyle posted:

I took Spanish for two years in high school, and learned exactly one thing. The Spanish teacher in my school actually was the hottest woman I've ever seen in my life.

Congrats. But in Spanish, por favor

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z6RnFoXF4w

other people
Jun 27, 2004
Associate Christ
i am incapable of recalling on the fly whether to use por or para and it loving sucks. I end up intoning every phrase as a question, often repeated the entire thing again with which ever i first used (the por or para) exchanged with the other "just in case". I'm sure it sounds idiotic.

i just can't figure out a consistent way to think of their usage in terms of an english word or phrasing. I'm convinced there has to be one but the world disagrees.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

other people posted:

i am incapable of recalling on the fly whether to use por or para and it loving sucks. I end up intoning every phrase as a question, often repeated the entire thing again with which ever i first used (the por or para) exchanged with the other "just in case". I'm sure it sounds idiotic.

i just can't figure out a consistent way to think of their usage in terms of an english word or phrasing. I'm convinced there has to be one but the world disagrees.

Para for when you want to say 'what' and por for when you want to say 'for' or 'because'.

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Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

Jajaja

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