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Hulk 2003 is the best Hulk film, period. Ang Lee owns, Eric Bana as Banner/Hulk owns. That said, Hulk 2008 is definitely a supplementary film to the MCU, i.e., not required viewing, but it's also one of the best movies the franchise has to offer imo. It's often overlooked because it doesn't really share any connective tissue to the 22 other films in the Infinity Saga, or at least, none that are overtly apparent—save for the obvious Stark cameo. Hulk 2008 is a fair bit more heady compared to the bulk of the MCU too; you won't find many gags/quip, etc., that undercut serious moments in the film, but the jokes are in there, and they work just fine and aren't overbearing. The film's score also gives off more ominous horror cues than sci-fi actioner/superhero ones, and it's great! The music is weird and moody, but I feel it works well to compliment the character. I know I'm likely in the minority, but I also much preferred Norton's depiction of Banner to Ruffalo's. He gave a more nuanced take on depicting that internalized rage, whereas Ruffalo just kinda does the most basic/boilerplate performance to get that struggle across. Not saying Ruffalo is bad... just, kinda vanilla and brings nothing to the table really. teagone fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jun 17, 2020 |
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Incredible Hulk has the worst CGI in the MCU, this goofy gently caress:
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Hedrigall posted:Can you substitute Ang Lee’s Hulk in its place Brokeback Mountain, introducing Mysterio and the Joker
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Hedrigall posted:Incredible Hulk has the worst CGI in the MCU, this goofy gently caress: Yeah, as good as Hulk 2008 is overall, it still suffers from a horrible 3rd act mirror match with terrible CG.
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Jun 17, 2020 00:10
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It grosses me out just looking at him, he's like the newborn from Alien Resurrection, all glistening and moist and boney
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Jun 17, 2020 00:10
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Also, I Before E's curated list did include Hulk 2003.
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Jun 17, 2020 00:12
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teagone posted:Yeah, as good as Hulk 2008 is overall, it still suffers from a horrible 3rd act mirror match with terrible CG. Do you remember the travesty that was The Incredible Hulk Returns?!
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Jun 17, 2020 00:12
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I can't actually remember what Ruffalo angry looks like
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Jun 17, 2020 01:20
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Lt. Danger posted:I can't actually remember what Ruffalo angry looks like It's because he's always angry 
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Jun 17, 2020 05:02
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Hedrigall posted:Incredible Hulk has the worst CGI in the MCU, this goofy gently caress: Looks like a Resident Evil screenshot tbh
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Jun 17, 2020 07:05
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I mean....he's called Abomination.
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Jun 17, 2020 15:34
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The blah, messy look of Abomination was definitely called out at the time as the weakest part of the movie.
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Jun 17, 2020 15:35
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Is Da 5 Bloods canon to the MCU? I think I saw one of the Avengers in there.
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Jun 17, 2020 16:15
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Hedrigall posted:Incredible Hulk has the worst CGI in the MCU Well I might say so except for how terrible Mark Ruffalo looks in the Hulkbuster suit. 
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teagone posted:Iron Man 2 and 3 aren't necessary stories required to watch if you want to understand/experience the Infinity Saga. They're character centric, and thus should be considered supplementary materials to the overall MCU. They're pretty good though, imo. Iron Man 2 in particular is one of the better looking MCU films, and both 2 and 3 do a lot to inform and grow Stark's character... but said character development gets completely ignored/dumpstered in the Avengers films that follow them, hence my recommendation for them as supplementary viewings. The thing is that the fourth Iron Man film, which is nominally Iron Man 3, is actually more of an Avengers 1.5 - a prologue to Avengers 2 where Avengers hero Tony Stark decides to treat costumed vigilantism as more of a hobby while he focuses on other stuff. (The 'other stuff' being, of course, Ultron). That's the unfortunate part of this canonical 'shared universe' thing: on its own, Iron man 3 is the story of how Tony Stark kills the Iron Man persona and decisively quits costumed vigilantism so that he can live 'a normal life', with a wife and kid. In the broader context, though, it's the story of how he decides to create a bunch of horrible surveillance and drone tech on top of his vigilantism (which culminates in him using the chaos emeralds to perform the ultimate algorithmically-targeted drone strike). Neither is a good ending; Stark murdering his servant Jarvis so he can retire in luxury is bullshit, but the alternative is that nothing actually happens in several hours of screentime. Read in concert, you have a curiously depressing tale of how Stark can only ever sustain his 'normal life' through incredible violence. This logic is reaffirmed when Steve Rogers uses godlike power to force an entire literal universe to conform to his wishes.
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I suppose one thing that you get out of IM3 in the broader picture is seeing who that young man that's at Starks funeral in Endgame is. That little cameo was cute.
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Laughing Zealot posted:I suppose one thing that you get out of IM3 in the broader picture is seeing who that young man that's at Starks funeral in Endgame is. Except 97% of the audience didn’t know who he was supposed to be.
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Torquemada posted:Except 97% of the audience didn’t know who he was supposed to be. I had no idea who it was until I looked it up, but I still found it cute.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:… Welcome back & stellar writing in your recent posts. Speaking of sexism: our first female Avenger, Black Widow, had the misfortune of being a femme fatale character in the desexualized MCU. As an elite assassin with a troublesome past, she ends up somehow being responsible for the group’s emotional stability.
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Jun 18, 2020 19:43
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KVeezy3 posted:As an elite assassin with a troublesome past, she ends up somehow being responsible for the group’s emotional stability.
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I am actually. The only western I've seen is Meek's Cutoff. Oh and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood if that counts.
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Jun 18, 2020 20:23
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Torquemada posted:Except 97% of the audience didn’t know who he was supposed to be. Because Joss Whedon shat all over Iron Man 3 with Age of Ultron.
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Timby posted:Because Joss Whedon shat all over Iron Man 3 with Age of Ultron. Yeah wasn't the story with Joss that in his typical mature fashion he was actively trying to undo story beats from other movies?
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Raxivace posted:Is Da 5 Bloods canon to the MCU? I think I saw one of the Avengers in there. Its a sequel to The Wire.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Yeah wasn't the story with Joss that in his typical mature fashion he was actively trying to undo story beats from other movies? I mean he undid his own TV show's story beats when he made Serenity, so that's been on brand forever.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Well I might say so except for how terrible Mark Ruffalo looks in the Hulkbuster suit. I mean yeah, but on the other hand, that looks really funny. KVeezy3 posted:I am actually. The only western I've seen is Meek's Cutoff. Oh and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood if that counts. I could swear it's not only a western thing, but fair I suppose. It's pretty common for the one girl of the cast to have to be the substitute mother for all the rowdy boys, regardless of the age, power and relationship dynamics otherwise. Though I thought she was a bit interesting in Avengers as basically the gender swapped Solid Snake who represents the normal person in a team of superpowered freaks.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I could swear it's not only a western thing, but fair I suppose. It's pretty common for the one girl of the cast to have to be the substitute mother for all the rowdy boys, regardless of the age, power and relationship dynamics otherwise. You're probably right about that as the domestication of women has been a long and ongoing process. Whedon did the same thing to Wonder Woman when he took over Justice League, on top of adding creepy shots of her.
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