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amigolupus posted:It's hilarious how Galaxy Quest's climax sends this positive message of the day being saved by super-obsessive fans, especially when you consider how Star Wars' ST got hosed over by super-obsessive fans on Reddit. It was a film made specifically for Star Trek fans, you don't make a movie and expect it to do well by literally insulting your target audience through active malice (as opposed to accidentally doing so through incompetence). The darker nature of Trek fandom has kind of been there for a long while--people hated TNG when it first showed up and would send hate mail to Wil Wheaton about him personally, not the character he portrayed on TV, to the point where it made him quit acting for a long while--but it's always been brushed under the rug in favor of the good parts of it that are in fact wholesome and worth celebrating. It's just become a lot harder to hide/ignore with the advent of the internet...
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Which one was star trek beyond was it the one with the doomsday device and bad guy who wanted revenge?
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bitterandtwisted posted:Which one was star trek beyond was it the one with the doomsday device and bad guy who wanted revenge? It was the good one.
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Polaron posted:It was the good one. Wrath of Khan?
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nine-gear crow posted:Wrath of Khan? Did I say Into Darkness?
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Polaron posted:Did I say Into Darkness? Nemesis is far more of a remake of Wrath of Khan than Into Darkness was.
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bitterandtwisted posted:Which one was star trek beyond was it the one with the doomsday device and bad guy who wanted revenge? I assume  here is that this also describes 2009 and Into Darkness?
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Silver2195 posted:I assume Wrath of Khan, Undiscovered Country, Generations, Nemesis...Probably one or two that's slipping my mind.
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I guess Final Frontier could go in the "Bad guy is super weapon" circle, but gently caress it, it's Final Frontier, it can stay outside.
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In GQ, the good guys have the superweapon and are the ones that want revenge. I guess it isn't a trek movie at all
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Nobody wants revenge in Undiscovered Country; they just want to keep the cold war going.
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V’ger wasn’t a bad guy.
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Neither was space whale probe.
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And if the prototype bird of prey is a "super weapon", surely the Enterprise is as well, which moves Final Frontier into that side of the diagram.
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I am not altering the chart 
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nine-gear crow posted:I am not altering the chart you didn't put galaxy quest in it, in the galaxy quest thread
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by grabthar's hammer!
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mind the walrus posted:Then JJ and Disney somehow managed to fail at fanservice, This is the only phrase you said that actually talks about the production of the sequel trilogy and you've kept all the important bits covered with a 'somehow' Thinking the fans are to blame for the studio's complete lack of ambition is such a brainkilled move
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kurtzman is the brainkiller
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I do love that while the aliens are basicaly LARPing a TV show as the only means of fighting the bad guys they can come up with (seems to imply a dangerous lack of imagination, though by the end they seem to have started figuring it out- and maybe put two and two together, realised if they could make an actual super spaceship by imitating fiction they could do all kinds of cool poo poo if they really tried) but there's also a completely unironic galactic conqueror out there who figures out exactly what's going on and thinks it's loving hilarious. ...also, might just be because I've mostly only watched DS9, but was wondering if Star Trek actually has a big villain figure to compare him to, and the main one coming to mind is Gul Dukat.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I do love that while the aliens are basicaly LARPing a TV show as the only means of fighting the bad guys they can come up with (seems to imply a dangerous lack of imagination, though by the end they seem to have started figuring it out- and maybe put two and two together, realised if they could make an actual super spaceship by imitating fiction they could do all kinds of cool poo poo if they really tried) but there's also a completely unironic galactic conqueror out there who figures out exactly what's going on and thinks it's loving hilarious. I assumed he was based on the various scenery-chewing villains from the Star Trek movies, not a recurring character from any of the TV shows.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I do love that while the aliens are basicaly LARPing a TV show as the only means of fighting the bad guys they can come up with (seems to imply a dangerous lack of imagination, though by the end they seem to have started figuring it out- and maybe put two and two together, realised if they could make an actual super spaceship by imitating fiction they could do all kinds of cool poo poo if they really tried) but there's also a completely unironic galactic conqueror out there who figures out exactly what's going on and thinks it's loving hilarious. tfw you have to steal the concept of a monomyth from another civilization
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I do like how they commit to the Thermians just being really weird. They've all got identical hairstyles and weird smiles in their human disguises, being a little Uncanny Valley at best.
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mind the walrus posted:"Die Hard is my favorite Christmas movie." Die hard is my favorite christmas movie. I watch it every christmas.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I do like how they commit to the Thermians just being really weird. They've all got identical hairstyles and weird smiles in their human disguises, being a little Uncanny Valley at best. I love that all the Thermians speak English pretty well, and the captain uses this bizarre monotone. I assume he was so pressed for time that he had to skip inflection practice while he supervised getting the ship built.
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Dr. Memory posted:I love that all the Thermians speak English pretty well, and the captain uses this bizarre monotone. I assume he was so pressed for time that he had to skip inflection practice while he supervised getting the ship built. Or he could just be the biggest weirdo nerd of what amounts to a group of LARPers who happened to be the only ones to survive conquest. Maybe something to how being Galaxy Quest nerds is the only thing that gives them the context they need to survive fascist violence.
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The thing that makes the space conqueror really effective for me was the scene where he forced the human captain to admit to the Thermian leader that Galaxy Quest was just a show. He's already captured everyone and had them at gunpoint, but he did it anyway because he's a cruel bastard who wanted to destroy their last shred of hope.
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amigolupus posted:The thing that makes the space conqueror really effective for me was the scene where he forced the human captain to admit to the Thermian leader that Galaxy Quest was just a show. He's already captured everyone and had them at gunpoint, but he did it anyway because he's a cruel bastard who wanted to destroy their last shred of hope. It's a really great scene in a movie full of great scenes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VGajDTNKFU
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Man, that Sarris' makeup really was something else!
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