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this weird switch to Luthor and Bizzaro Superman into Doomsday at the tail end of the season isn't great
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muscles like this! posted:He is Doomsday now. The dying and coming back stronger is basically Doomsday's origin. It literally is. As I recall, in the comics leading up to and also following The Death of Superman, each new clone of The Ultimate was released into the wild of Krypton, would eventually die (from predators, the environmental conditions, what have you), and then they'd clone the remains, with each new clone retaining the genetic memories of the prior ones. So eventually he was forced to evolve and became a giant Kryptonian death machine.
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Jun 29, 2023 02:29
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muscles like this! posted:It is kind of a weird place to end the season, especially since they're decimating the cast. So look forward to next season having a bunch of lines about why people are no longer appearing. It's not that they won't be appearing, it's that they're not main cast anymore, so they're not guaranteed a certain amount of appearances through the season. It's likelier that a lot of them will be spread out across the season rather than be in each episode. RandomBlue posted:this weird switch to Luthor and Bizzaro Superman into Doomsday at the tail end of the season isn't great A lot of stuff in this episode felt like they were accelerating to a cliffhanger in the hopes of having a fourth season.
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Jun 29, 2023 02:36
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It felt to me like they were trying to find a happy medium between a cliffhanger and something that could vaguely serve as an open ending.
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Jun 29, 2023 06:01
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Well, that certainly took some cojones to do that on a TV budget, and it still looked better than Quantumania. That aside, I was expecting Superman to lose his cape so they start next season with the Lois Lane/Death of Superman scene, but blowing up the moon works too.
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Jun 30, 2023 02:39
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They definitely threw a lot of balls into the air with that season finale, hoping all of them land in season 4. This was my favorite season of the show so far; the character work was top notch and everything between Superman and Lois was great. I'm admittedly nervous about next season with the budget cut, but as long as the writing stays strong, I'm in for the ride. Especially if they do a Death of Superman/Reign of the Supermen story. Just have Jordan in the Superboy role, it'd be perfect.
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Jun 30, 2023 13:46
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The whole "I think I'm ready" scene was incredibly beautiful and touching. I squealed and hugged pillows all throughout. Am not particularly impressed/interested in surprise baby and marriage proposals. Would have been more impressed if they both agreed it was too soon / not ready. But I like them both, so completely out of left field happily ever after, wooo. I guess. Lana and JHI holding hands giggling like teenagers after mutual respectful knocking boots was much more palatable. I respect Woles physique. drat, poor grandpa. Coach Gaines is a petty petty man.
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Jun 30, 2023 21:07
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Sloth Life posted:Coach Gaines is a petty petty man. I'm gonna pretend that he's actually still mad that Clark made poo poo bbq that one time.
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Jun 30, 2023 21:10
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Timby posted:It literally is. As I recall, in the comics leading up to and also following The Death of Superman, each new clone of The Ultimate was released into the wild of Krypton, would eventually die (from predators, the environmental conditions, what have you), and then they'd clone the remains, with each new clone retaining the genetic memories of the prior ones. So eventually he was forced to evolve and became a giant Kryptonian death machine. What I'm saying is I predict cyborg Superman.
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Jul 1, 2023 07:30
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A Fancy Hat posted:They definitely threw a lot of balls into the air with that season finale, hoping all of them land in season 4. If this were a CW Arrowverse show I would be saying "no, no, please don't" but Superman and Lois has done a great job and I think they could do justice to that storyline. However, lol if one of the cast who got sidelined into only a reduced role next season is loving Superman.
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Jul 1, 2023 07:46
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Why does Bizarro / Doomsday want to kill Superman anyway? They were only opposed last season due to Ally, and that is resolved now.
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Jul 1, 2023 07:56
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Well for those missing Tal Rho, Adam Rayner is hamming it up over on Max's Warrior.
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SimonChris posted:Why does Bizarro / Doomsday want to kill Superman anyway? They were only opposed last season due to Ally, and that is resolved now. Whatever Manheim did to him basically turned him into an undead ghoul, then Luthor kept killing him over and over. He was already pretty crazy before that, now he’s just completely mindless. I really loved Superman’s “what did they do to you?” when he saw him - he still cares for this poor thing.
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Jul 1, 2023 14:19
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Easiest way to write off most of the cast is for the main fam to just have to move back to the city.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:They just handwaved how he dies and gets stronger right? It was just that line from Luthor. Seemed pretty sloppy and rushed. A Fancy Hat posted:Whatever Manheim did to him basically turned him into an undead ghoul, then Luthor kept killing him over and over. He was already pretty crazy before that, now he’s just completely mindless. I really loved Superman’s “what did they do to you?” when he saw him - he still cares for this poor thing.
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Tiggum posted:I guess it's related to whatever Manheim was doing with him. And I never really knew what was going on there either. Definitely felt like there was a MISSING SCENE that would've explained stuff.
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Jul 7, 2023 01:09
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I think they just thought that the fight was spectacular enough that the viewer wouldn't really care. In my case, they were right.
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Jul 7, 2023 05:10
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Agree, they could have readily just had a shot in the torture/kill montage of Mannheim shoving a picture of Superman in Bizarro's face and yelling "do you know why you suffer?! It's HIS fault!". Or something, idk.
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Jul 7, 2023 20:00
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Just a reminder that there's a new Superman animated series that just started airing on Adult Swim/streaming on Max. "My Adventures with Superman" stars Jack Quaid as a young Clark Kent just starting out in Metropolis alongside fellow Daily Planet interns Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane.
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Jul 9, 2023 05:09
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https://deadline.com/2023/11/superman-and-lois-canceled-end-season-4-cw-1235591418/ Arrowverse, now officially 100% dead.
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Nov 2, 2023 23:34
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Well at least they know well in advance. Hopefully they will craft a worthy send off.
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Nov 3, 2023 00:28
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I think we all knew that was coming. And also, I do not want the S&L finale to be the Arrowverse finale. Those other shows have nothing to do with this one.
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Nov 3, 2023 00:59
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its a loving miracle we got anything past a first season, let alone more.
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Nov 3, 2023 01:07
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Bastards. This was one of the best shows on television. 4 seasons always feels too soon.
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Nov 3, 2023 03:38
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oh jay posted:I think we all knew that was coming. They explicitly established that the show takes place in a different universe where Superman is the only hero.
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Nov 3, 2023 14:20
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A really fun 1st season, a bit of stumble on the 2nd season (imho), and a great 3rd season that ranks up with the best stuff superhero TV has ever done. I'm a bit concerned about season 4 because of the budget cut (since it seems like a dramatic one) but I hope it finishes strong. I know superhero stuff in general is kind of fading in popularity, but I feel like the CW really fumbled the ball and lost their identity by pivoting away from all the DC shows.
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https://www.thewrap.com/cw-brad-schwartz-dennis-miller-interview-linear-tv-strategy/quote:(Schwartz clarified that, despite how well “Superman & Lois” has performed, the decision to end the DC property came from Warner Bros. — “They don’t want a competing Superman product in the marketplace,” Schwartz said, referring to James Gunn’s 2025 movie “Superman: Legacy.”) That good old Warner Bros./DC bRaNd PuRiTy strikes again and claims its final victim (for now).
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Feb 18, 2024 04:41
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For gently caress sake. This was the best live action superman since Christopher reeves.
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Yeah that’s super bullshit. People know the god drat difference. I bet they blame Flash tv for the movie not doing well. Assholes.
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