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panko
Sep 6, 2005

~honda best man~


Countblanc posted:

i know we all had a good chortle at the dude who posted their novella about the best way to spoil DE for a new player, but a friend of mine who has no more video game experience the last 20 years than random phone games and zero PC experience got gifted a copy for her birthday and wants to try it out. does anyone have any recommendations for like, the most barebones useful tips? strictly stuff like shortcut keys or UI things that would have been useful to know, like "you can press B to open your inventory" or whatever. i dont remember the game having particularly good tutorialization for that sort of thing but maybe I'm not remembering, it's been like 2 years since I've played.

I think even the beforeIplay spoils too much of the game. I found this post very useful:

InequalityGodzilla posted:

After a great deal of coaxing I managed to get my sister-in-law, who I really like but who has never played any video game aside from Tetris, to play this game. I gave her some information before she starts as follows

Did I do a good job preparing her for The Experience?

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sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









The post that countblanc refers to? The novella?

I think telling them save often, there's no wrong way to play, and that they can take healing items even after they've taken damage about covers it.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
The only important thing is to set physical to 1 and immediately reach for the necktie

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

The only important thing is to set physical to 1 and immediately reach for the necktie

After setting motorics to 1 as well.

panko
Sep 6, 2005

~honda best man~


sebmojo posted:

The post that countblanc refers to? The novella?

I wonder if his sister-in-law ended up actually playing the game, that was his second-last post ever so we’ll probably never know

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
assassinated by the moralintern no doubt

WrightOfWay
Jul 24, 2010


Countblanc posted:

i know we all had a good chortle at the dude who posted their novella about the best way to spoil DE for a new player, but a friend of mine who has no more video game experience the last 20 years than random phone games and zero PC experience got gifted a copy for her birthday and wants to try it out. does anyone have any recommendations for like, the most barebones useful tips? strictly stuff like shortcut keys or UI things that would have been useful to know, like "you can press B to open your inventory" or whatever. i dont remember the game having particularly good tutorialization for that sort of thing but maybe I'm not remembering, it's been like 2 years since I've played.

I would mention that you can run by double clicking, I don't remember if the game tells you that and if you've never played any similar click to move games that may not be obvious.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Basic mechanical stuff?

Right clicking will highlight nearby things you can pick up / interact with. Sometimes whether something is highlighted is affected by your perception stat, or by held equipment.

A coloured blob appearing above your head means that one of your skills has something to say - the colour just tells you whether it's a physical, psyche, intellect or motorics skill. Click it if you want to hear from them.

Time only advances when you talk to people. Don't worry too much about the clock.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



I would also recommend doing a once-over on how the thought cabinet works - that you can have more than one at a time being percolated on, etc. I've seen a few LPs where people just don't get it.

Railing Kill
Nov 14, 2008

You are the first crack in the sheer face of god. From you it will spread.

sebmojo posted:

You should record an episode if your buds are up for it, it sounds extremely entertaining

I don't think I'm going to record it, but it has been fun so far. I can post out-of-context highlights from what the players are saying, like:

"Can we finish this game without ever talking to that kid ever again?"

"My wife can overhear the stream and is looking pretty mad about how racist this man is."

"Kim might be willing to take a bullet for us, but we are willing to take a bullet for our best friend, a necktie."

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry
Poor Things was mentioned previously in the thread, and I finally got around to watching it- it's weird. I can definitely see how people saw Disco Elysium in it, but the setting also has a smattering of Dishonored!

Highly recommended!

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

Railing Kill posted:

"Can we finish this game without ever talking to that kid ever again?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoGlE4G8DyE

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


panko posted:

I think even the beforeIplay spoils too much of the game. I found this post very useful:

this post. what a great, beautiful post.

KORNOLOGY
Aug 9, 2006
People are saying, many people are saying, that I have a giant bottle of blue alcohol sitting in my inventory and that a magical talking tie tells me what to do. It's not True, folks, it's simply not True.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



They are merely trusted advisors

KORNOLOGY
Aug 9, 2006
Trusted advisor rapes infinite children. I know, he doesn't want you to know. But I know. He rapes.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




https://x.com/kuvosa/status/1775935601117941821?s=61&t=-vp9P7i8Kl2W3uKiLPEWrA

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
Despite owning this game for years I'm just now getting around to actually playing it. Holy poo poo is it engrossing from the beginning.

Love how it's decisions on how you think and feel about what's going on around you rather than purely external decisions like most RPGs.

I'm playing 4/4/2/2 and empathy is my signature skill.

It kills me that I failed to poo poo on that rich woman for being rich.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




To be fair, that’s one of the funnier failed red checks.

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/RobotLeBlanc/status/1777699986253234504

https://www.3lobedmag.com/issue41/3lbe41_story3.html

Latest issue of Three-Lobed Burning Eye has a story about a Pale incursion.

Twobirds
Oct 17, 2000

The only talking mouse in all of Britannia.
Also some pretty good sandwich descriptions.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



My teen kid is playing and I'm enjoying the way she approaches it. I told her she should play it after she was smitten with another game called "slay the princess" based in part on its internal greek chorus. She can't put it down.

Somehow she seems preoccupied with getting gear and money, but still ended up with the Sorry and Communist Coptypes so far on Day 2.

I'm providing parental guidance, but I remember the kind of poo poo I was playing at her age which was just as weird violent and troubling but had absolutely nothing to teach except "shoot demon man get red key card" and I turned out.... wait poo poo.

Most troubling is that she doesn't seem to regard Kim Kitsurugee's advice or esteem very highly. :mad:

Odysseus S. Grant
Oct 12, 2011

Cats is the oldest and strongest emotion
of mankind
Kim is supposedly incredibly bad with teens, so that checks out.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
in fairness sorry cop is the most evidence supported copotype

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Goatse James Bond posted:

in fairness sorry cop is the most evidence supported copotype
Because I'd heard about it from other lefties I played it seriously for the first few hours and really leaned into the grimness of an alcoholic seeking redemption.

I can't remember what moment it was where it really clicked to just be silly and enjoy being awesome, but I think it was either Cuno or possibly the moment when you find the car. I got way too far into seeing it as a tragic redemption arc.

I didn't wear the tie either.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



I'm pleased to report about the first thing she did was die getting the tie.

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Odysseus S. Grant posted:

Kim is supposedly incredibly bad with teens, so that checks out.

I thought it was the opposite, that he was in the Juvie division for over a decade because he was able to at least appear young

Szarrukin
Sep 29, 2021

Mr. Lobe posted:

I thought it was the opposite, that he was in the Juvie division for over a decade because he was able to at least appear young

I always thought it was because his superiors being racist.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Sorry Cop makes a lot of sense given you spend most of the game discovering layer after layer of your incredible inexcusable fuckups, and a lot of the apologies are absolutely warranted. Kind of a theme is trying to figure out how to deal with your own bullshit without drowning in self-pity. I think Superstar Cop can sometimes be a bit of an act put on to cope with it, with some implication that you've been doing poo poo so ridiculous you can't take it seriously anymore, and encourage others to feel the same.

Szarrukin posted:

I always thought it was because his superiors being racist.

A bit of both, probably. And Revachol being racist in general. Like how there's a whole reveal that Kim and the detective are only a single year apart in age, when they look like they could be a decade or two apart.

In general I think it's more Kim has so aggressively wanted to put that part of his life behind him that he's lost the skills he used to have there- not to mention, being undercover is a very different role from being a uniformed officer, especially socially.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Sorry Cop makes a lot of sense given you spend most of the game discovering layer after layer of your incredible inexcusable fuckups, and a lot of the apologies are absolutely warranted. Kind of a theme is trying to figure out how to deal with your own bullshit without drowning in self-pity. I think Superstar Cop can sometimes be a bit of an act put on to cope with it, with some implication that you've been doing poo poo so ridiculous you can't take it seriously anymore, and encourage others to feel the same.
I had trouble putting how I felt playing it into words in that other post but you hit the nail on the head here. The first half of that paragraph is how I felt starting the game, then after a certain point it clicked and I learned to embrace the stupid and just go 'Yes this is the most ridiculous thing I could say right now, lets see where this goes' and then the game starts rewarding you by going along with it.

And then it transpires in later dialogue like the 'human can opener' that this is exactly what you're supposed to be like. Electrochemistry was wrong - it was never the drink and drugs that made you awesome, it was you all along. The fact that you can switch styles and forget thoughts in the cabinet meant I went through a sorry cop phase at first, and then became a sober legend for the rest of the playthrough.

Everything about this game should be crushingly depressing, but it just has an incredible way of showing you that even in the bleakest situations there can be moments of hope, laughter, love and joy.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Bobby Deluxe posted:

Everything about this game should be crushingly depressing, but it just has an incredible way of showing you that even in the bleakest situations there can be moments of hope, laughter, love and joy.

In dark times, should the stars also go out?

ziasquinn
Jan 1, 2006

Fallen Rib
should we stop building Love too?

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
In idiot doom spirals, should we also lose our cool jacket?

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Is a man not entitled to punch a stuffed bird?

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006


how did this fanart end up in 70s USSR!?

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Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT
Superstar commie cop in Actually Existing Socialism.

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