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Serrath posted:Serious question but why is zipping a thing? I don’t understand why, if you can compress files, they don’t come smaller by default. It seems like an unnecessary step, why don’t files come compressed on whatever medium they come in and uncompressing is part of the install process or whatever Many files already are well compressed. You won't see much if any improvement zipping most media files, for example. And a lot of the time these days internet servers are transparently zipping the data for sending and your browser unzips it as it loads at the other end. And if you want everything else to also be compressed on your computer you can always enable full-disc compression and everything on your disc will be shrunk, it just means your computer will have a performance hit because it has to uncompress as it reads and compress as it writes. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Apr 3, 2021 |
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Son of Rodney posted:there was compression! Ask Elaine! "Allllriiight...Elaine, do women know....about compression? "Compression?" You know! Sometimes...you gotta..save a little space..package a few files...so...theres...compression. "I Dunno HOW you guys archive with those things"
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Colonel Cancer posted:There ought to be a software to make your files bigger and more intimidating imo. Like the opposite of zipping let's call it zapping Just zip it and use http://www.shadyurl.com/ to link to your zipped file 
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Khorne posted:what's the problem op, 7zip is the only program worth using for managing compressed archives on windows so 7z is functionally identical to zip on mac you can select files and right click to create a zip archive, but if the archive is bigger than 4gb you can't uncompress it anywhere else except by double clicking in finder because it makes some kind of weird file that isn't compatible with the standard zip64 format that everything else uses, including the mac command line zip utility
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The_Franz posted:on mac you can select files and right click to create a zip archive, but if the archive is bigger than 4gb you can't uncompress it anywhere else except by double clicking in finder because it makes some kind of weird file that isn't compatible with the standard zip64 format that everything else uses, including the mac command line zip utility YET ANOTHER REASON I LOVE MY MAC *stares vacantly deep into my own rear end in a top hat*
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Knormal posted:7zip produces the smallest file sizes of any of the major archive formats, deal with it. 7zip also opens every archive format winrar can open, but freeware
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A work computer came with WinZip. It had the worst UI I've ever dealt with. I was unable to just bypass it and use the standard windows compresses UI. WinZip had massive non-hideable toolbars at the left, right, and top of the window, which could not be made full screen. There were buttons an inch square advertising ZIP TO CLOUD CLOUD BACKUP ZIP MY FILES TO THE CLOUD. My favorite part though was that the actual frame that showed the archive contents made prolific use of whitespace so there was basically a blank line between every file each of which showed its info in a multiline chunk. This use of whitespace made it so I could only see about 4 files at a time. Expanding the window just added whitespace. The absolute cherry on top was that the frame with the archive contents in it didn't show a scrollbar. There was no indication if there was actually 4 files or if it was showing the first 4 out of 10k. To scroll down, you had to put your mouse cursor over where the scrollbar would be, at which point a little lozenge would slowly scroll out from the right. You could only navigate up or down by grabbing and dragging the lozenge, there were no arrows and hitting arrows on the keyboard did nothing. Of course the scrollbar would disappear after a few seconds of inactivity even if the cursor was still on the lozenge. I filed a ticket for it to be removed and if possible replaced with 7zip bit if not possible just uninstall WinZip. It had the single worst interface of any piece of software I've ever used, and I include custom command shells with their own undocumented syntax in that. I had never been a fan of 7zip's interface and I'm still not but Jesus Christ at least you can see how many files are in the folder you're looking at and move around with no difficulty.
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People poo poo on a lot of open source software for being hard to use, or only designed for other programmers. I'll say this much, at least programmers are an actual existing demographic with actual needs the software is meeting. That version of WinZip was apparently designed for people who didn't need to see what was in the archive they were looking in and wanted to push a button with a picture of a cloud on it. It was obviously the brainchild of some cracksniffing execs trying to chase modern trends from within their basic file management and compression utility.
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While programmers generally suck balls, it's like selling a car that drives itself 
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Uncle Enzo posted:WinZip the spirit of the 90s is still alive in winzip, which is the last time i used it
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Uncle Enzo posted:BITCH BITCH BITCH Pffft what could POSSIBLY be more efficient than this? 
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Big Beef City posted:Pffft what could POSSIBLY be more efficient than this? ok i take it back, that's not at all how it used to look seriously, what the gently caress did they do to the interface and who thought it was a good idea?
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Big Beef City posted:Pffft what could POSSIBLY be more efficient than this? Aaaah there it is. 17 items in the archive, no scrollbar. 4.5 items shown on screen despite having plenty of real estate to work with. No "extract all" button. No way to search inside the archive. Plenty of whitespace though! At least in the one area that's actually devoted to the thing you're doing though.
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The_Franz posted:ok i take it back, that's not at all how it used to look Yeah I figured you hadn't seen it recently. I used it back in the result 2000's and I agree, the interface was perfectly fine. Even if they hadn't updated it all since then it would maybe look a bit dated but it would work. That new interface is from people huffing farts.
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I was kinda joking in my previous reply. I wouldn't actually use 7z format for distribution because zip is natively supported & less hassle for users, but 7zip is good zip software that I use regularly because it handles all common formats in one reasonable program.The_Franz posted:ok i take it back, that's not at all how it used to look design your ui like late '00s era microsoft office, sell licenses to out of touch execs/IT decision makers Khorne fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Apr 3, 2021 |
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I too am oddly defensive of software written 40 years ago by an alcoholic computer nerd
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Khorne posted:I was kinda joking in my previous reply. I wouldn't actually use 7z format for distribution because zip is natively supported & less hassle for users, but 7zip is good zip software that I use regularly because it handles all common formats in one reasonable program. I don't have 7zip because very rarely am I only given .7z as an option and when that does happen I think hmmmm whelp if these assholes are going to make it a hassle to install their software I don't trust them to be on the same wave length as me when it comes to the UI/features etc. It's not that I can't install 7zip it's that I don't want to and don't believe I should have to. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Apr 3, 2021 |
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Ymodem?
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Apr 3, 2021 21:33
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I must extract my 0day keygens I am hackermans
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Apr 3, 2021 21:48
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Chief McHeath posted:I must extract my 0day keygens stop e-mailing my wife
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Zeluth posted:Ymodem? Kermit.
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7Zip is the best, OP can suck a gently caress.
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7-Zip yours!
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Duck and Cover posted:I don't have 7zip because very rarely am I only given .7z as an option and when that does happen I think hmmmm whelp if these assholes are going to make it a hassle to install their software I don't trust them to be on the same wave length as me when it comes to the UI/features etc. It's not that I can't install 7zip it's that I don't want to and don't believe I should have to. and the guy on the other end has the exact same view of the situation
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