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Mokotow posted:You should absolutely watch it. Even the Terminus story is better. Can I watch season 2 without slogging through season one? (I’ve only seen two episodes)
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Watch the Empire sections of Season 1 at least, and also Gaal + Seldon in the latter episodes. — I started reading the first book and, boy! I like it, but it’s very different. The creators of the show said they have read the books a lot, so I trust there’s a long term reason for having such a diversion, especially for Seldon continually to be an active participant rather than just having a few recorded messages.
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Seldon being a more active participant is almost certainly 100% on Jared Harris
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:Seldon being a more active participant is almost certainly 100% on
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I liked how Season 2 began with Brother Day going full Caligula Mode and loving his robot mom.
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that's a really annoying way to do spoiler tags
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I like season one a lot more now that I've seen season two and I think it's essential
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Finished the first book, and it’s funny to me that it keeps saying stuff like this: “This is a Seldon crisis we’re facing, and Seldon crises are not solved by individuals but by historic forces. Solutions to the various crises must be achieved by the forces that become available to us at the time.” a criticism I often saw from book fans about the show was this idea that it highlighted the actions of individuals too often to solve these crises. Yet the book can be summed up as “Salvor Hardin and Hober Mallow solved crises by being the lone voice of reason and taking huge risks”. That said, I do accept that there is a lot more “messing with the plan” thanks to Gaal and Seldon being actively involved in the story, but that’s probably necessary to keep the audience’s attention through a long running show, versus a series of short stories as it was originally conceived.
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This is book and not show related, but I just had an article come out in an online open-access journal about reading the Foundation novels (mainly the original trilogy) through a solarpunk lens. I'll say I did originally want to include a bit about the show (and Apple TV's Extrapolations show also) but due to the word count limit, I just wasn't able to fit it in. Anyways, I thought at least some people here might enjoy it, so I'll drop the link here. Though there are some book spoilers, if anyone cares. https://hcommons.org/deposits/item/hc:62961/
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Chairman Capone posted:This is book and not show related, but I just had an article come out in an online open-access journal about reading the Foundation novels (mainly the original trilogy) through a solarpunk lens. I'll say I did originally want to include a bit about the show (and Apple TV's Extrapolations show also) but due to the word count limit, I just wasn't able to fit it in. Anyways, I thought at least some people here might enjoy it, so I'll drop the link here. Though there are some book spoilers, if anyone cares. thanks, pretty cool read. I'd never heard the term solarpunk before.
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BetterLekNextTime posted:thanks, pretty cool read. I'd never heard the term solarpunk before. I bet solarpunk music is wack.
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Chairman Capone posted:about reading the Foundation novels (mainly the original trilogy) through a solarpunk lens. I'm not entirely sure what exactly a solarpunk is, but playing with lenses around one sounds like a great way to accidentally start a fire.  (That was a cool read, thank you!)
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Troy Kotsur joins the season 3 cast as Preem Palver, the leader of a planet of psychics. Can’t say I know the guy but he does have that “I think I saw him before” face. Good to hear some news.
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Mokotow posted:Troy Kotsur joins the season 3 cast as Preem Palver, the leader of a planet of psychics. Can’t say I know the guy but he does have that “I think I saw him before” face. Troy Kotsur is the first Deaf man to win an Oscar for acting
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Goyer is out as showrunner after budget clash. He will remain a writer. Producer Bill Bost will step up to take over his role. Surprisingly, the show already shot half of it’s season 3 material before the writers’ strike. They’ll continue shooting the rest now. I also had no idea that it’s shot in Prague. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/foundation-david-s-goyer-steps-down-showrunner-season-3-1235834630/
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It was funny going back through the podcast about the show and it felt like every other episode was some story like “we did this elaborate shoot on one remote island in the Canary Islands. The other half of the scene was another island in the Mediterranean off the coast of Greece, so we had make it look like the first island by bringing in tons of black sand” So yeah, this news tracks. It’s probably going to be more green-screen / Volume too. Hopefully there’s still the same level of attention given to it; it seems Goyer has a well thought out plan for the overall show.
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I was surprised to find they’re filming the next season starting next week in my hometown Warsaw in Poland. They’ll do a week of filming at the Divine Providence Temple , which is a huge modernist concrete building we affectionately call “the juice squeezer”. They’ll also do filming at the POLIN Jewish museum which has some fantastic Foundation-style interiors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Divine_Providence?wprov=sfti1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POLIN_Museum_of_the_History_of_Polish_Jews?wprov=sfti1
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Ooof, they're just now starting to film? I don't know why but I thought that was in progress or done. Going to be awhile.
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Judging from the locations, it looks like these are external scenery shots. Might be just as well that all the soundstage work has been complete. Interestingly enough a large part of the show seems to be filmed in studios in Czechia with a local crew of around 300 people.
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I'm a couple episodes into the 2nd season. I was baffled by Salvor's decision to find Gaal. She's your egg donor, who cares? Everyone you (apparently haven't) loved is dead. I never read the novels. Is "psychohistory" just a religious prophecy in the novels, too? Seldon assures me that his predictions are backed up by the math. "The Math" is a psychedelic hologram that looks kind of like a DNA helix.
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Halloween Jack posted:I never read the novels. Is "psychohistory" just a religious prophecy in the novels, too? Seldon assures me that his predictions are backed up by the math. "The Math" is a psychedelic hologram that looks kind of like a DNA helix. It's real in the books; the  is that a sufficiently large amount of human beings (the Galactic Empire size large) can be examined statistically etc. in order to make predictions about large-scale events. It works until an unexpected event happens that derails the axioms of psychohistory.
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Binged on this over the weekend. I think it started out interesting and better than S2. The bit about how Foundation spreads influence was cool and I wish they had leaned more into it and showed an example of how some priests doing parlor tricks for commoners can eventually lead to the whole planet aligning itself with Terminus. Poly and Constant had a great dynamic and had strong screen presence. Titan's Prick scene was pretty funny. Things just went downhill from there though, and towards the end I was basically hate-watching just to finish it. The way Hari could exist in multiple places, and the way he suddenly acquired a physical body, made it difficult to care about what happened to him. Hari is on the other side of the galaxy as a projection! Oh wait no, he's also here because of this magic device. Hari can't interface with the physical world and needs one of the other characters to open doors for him, so there's at least some limitation to him being a deus ex character! Oh wait no, he has a body now. Hari is dead! Nah, he's not actually. Etc. The space battle scene was extremely poorly done to the point where it was just infuriating and cringey. At first everyone is like, "Terminus is surrounded and defenseless! They have the Invictus but it's useless! Oh wait, it just came online! It is concentrating ALL of its firepower on the Empire flagship!!! They also brought in whisper ships guys! Those sure sound scary! Scramble fighters!!11!" And then one pilot is apparently able to single-handedly disable the whole Invictus by himself. Zzzz... And then crashing it to the planet somehow destroys the entire planet?? But then nobody actually dies because Hari teleported them into his magic castle? Just unbelievably lazy writing all around. Comically bad. The only interesting plot point was Demerzel's. I appreciated that her background was explored more, and the irony of humans destroying and outlawing robots, only to have their entire galactic empire controlled by the last remaining one, was pretty delicious. So there's some promise to S3, especially now that Salvor is gone (hopefully for good - the weakest actor on the show IMO) and we get The Mule.
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