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The word I'm hearing is people are pissed at what little the IATSE negotiating team actually got. Including just an increase in meal penalties, not actually requiring productions to break for meals. If true, that loving sucks and deserves to be voted down.
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Oct 17, 2021 08:05
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This is what I've seen floating around so far so it's a bit more than that. VorpalBunny posted:The word I'm hearing is people are pissed at what little the IATSE negotiating team actually got. Including just an increase in meal penalties, not actually requiring productions to break for meals. If true, that loving sucks and deserves to be voted down. https://twitter.com/nevslin/status/1449540344232644609
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Oct 17, 2021 09:25
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So, IATSE caved.
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Oct 17, 2021 09:29
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Apparently the traditional non-new-media studios had incentive to settle too. They didn't have the benefit of a global lockdown streaming payday and would be wiped out by a strike which Amazon, Netflix and Hulu could ride out.
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Oct 17, 2021 14:50
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VorpalBunny posted:The word I'm hearing is people are pissed at what little the IATSE negotiating team actually got. Including just an increase in meal penalties, not actually requiring productions to break for meals. If true, that loving sucks and deserves to be voted down. I wonder if the vote will go like the UAW for John Deere
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:I wonder if the vote will go like the UAW for John Deere From what I’ve seen not a single person on my social media or current crew is happy with the deal. I guess we’ll see when we vote to ratify it in a couple of weeks.
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Oct 17, 2021 18:41
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Scam Likely posted:Apparently the traditional non-new-media studios had incentive to settle too. They didn't have the benefit of a global lockdown streaming payday and would be wiped out by a strike which Amazon, Netflix and Hulu could ride out. Yeah, it would stop North American domestic production, but Netflix could just push UK, French, Scandinavian, Japanese or Korean content hard. Hell, Squid Game's blockbuster success gives them a reason to do so. But NBC or CBS would be hosed, they'd basically either have to spend a ton on outside content like that, which the streamers largely already have on lock, or just schedule weeks or months of reruns.
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Oct 17, 2021 22:58
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Yeah, there's broad support for this strike and these terms are very clearly a quarter measure at best that solve none of the underlying systemic issues at hand. Everyone involved knows that ratifying this is only kicking the can down the road, and with the current state of labour affairs in the US I cannot imagine this being ratified. Milk these fuckers for every dollar and every minute you can
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Oct 17, 2021 23:35
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Paper Lion posted:Yeah, there's broad support for this strike and these terms are very clearly a quarter measure at best that solve none of the underlying systemic issues at hand. Everyone involved knows that ratifying this is only kicking the can down the road, and with the current state of labour affairs in the US I cannot imagine this being ratified. Milk these fuckers for every dollar and every minute you can The entirety of my IATSE friends are completely against this deal and intend to vote no on it, absolutely. I'm unfortunately not in a position that has union representation, but any ground that is gained will benefit the entire industry and the completely absurd time demands that old Hollywood thinks it "requires"
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Oct 18, 2021 02:37
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:I wonder if the vote will go like the UAW for John Deere Both of these situations seem a lot like the union leadership cares as much about the workers as the CEO's do. lovely deals and ignoring the good of the members seems like a bad idea. Even if this deal doesn't get voted down I don't see the IATSE leadership surviving the next election.
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Oct 18, 2021 21:56
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Anything new this week?
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Oct 26, 2021 08:38
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Golden Bee posted:Anything new this week? I haven’t heard anything from my local since our townhall that went real south real quick. That was like last Tuesday I think. The whole Halyna Hutchins tragedy is just another reason for us to stick it out against the producers, but we are still waiting to vote to ratify that deal.
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Oct 26, 2021 21:06
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Ratification vote begins November 12, with results coming out November 15. If there's no strike, you might as well unsticky this thread.
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Nov 6, 2021 07:06
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Are they likely to ratify? Didn't this whole baldwin shooting thing not get them riled up to get more of what they came for? Seeing management make a joke of their lives, t-shirts making fun of workers' legitimate concerns, someone literally died... that's not got the union re-fired up at all?
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Nov 6, 2021 17:36
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There are a lot of pieces written about how the Rust incident could cause the union members not to ratify, but nobody knows for certain how the hundreds of thousands of individuals will act. Needless to say, they're more likely to not ratify now then they were when the union heads made the agreement with the AMPTP back on October 16.
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Nov 7, 2021 06:20
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I was reading an article about the Mighty Ducks Disney Plus series, and how Emilio Estevez was suffering from long-Covid for months while producers manipulated him into continuing production in the middle of a pandemic. He's opted out of the second season, and while the rumors are he's anti-vaxx it sounds more like he knows he was hosed over by the producers and doesn't want anything to do with them and the property any more. If that kind of poo poo, plus the Rust working conditions, doesn't fire people up to fight harder against Producers, nothing will.
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Nov 9, 2021 22:31
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Here's an important note from Deadline:Opposition Growing To Proposed IATSE Contract As Members Prepare To Vote & Industry Faces Uncharted Waters posted:There are actually two separate contracts up for ratification: the Basic Agreement, which covers 13 Hollywood locals, and the Area Standards Agreement, which covers 23 locals outside of Los Angeles. Opposition appears to be strongest among the Hollywood locals, which raises the possibility that the Basic Agreement could be rejected and the other accepted.
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Nov 11, 2021 08:31
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Well, everything got ratified. Time to close the thread.
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