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Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

mazzi Chart Czar posted:

Excuse this attempt: https://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/european-thought-and-culture-in-the-19th-century


Marx studied Hegel. So you have to go back to Hegel.

Hegel was trying to understand history, but all of it. (Before French Revolution people just had personal history, or national history)

Hegel said that things go through a process:
First you have an idea. Then you have the anti-idea.

Then the idea and anti Idea combine into a thing called the synthesis.

A historical example is, having the various enlightenment ideas and events, then countered by the various Romantics thoughts and ideas.
Then they are combined and people move toward understanding a meaning, or sort of ending/goal.

There is this idea that history is moving toward something. And has a meaning. Hegel a label used is "the spirit."
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Marx is a strict materialist, so if you ask to explain how history happened, he would say, they are fights over resources, and trying to keep your body alive.

So you take Hegel's frame work of stuff happening. The end goal is Communism, the utopia end goal.
Everything has a meaning or reason and the end of it is communism.

No I'm pretty sure it's about corn.

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docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

It's a philosophy for toddlers (people who can't count higher than 2, and who believe that only the things right in front of their face that they can see are real)

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
the idea is that different interest groups (or classes) and institutions in society want different things and try to pull the way things are done (law, economy, politics) in different ways (some of which may be antagonistic and mutually contradictory)

the end result (how things actually work) is due to the various concessions, compromises and decisions made based on which institutions and classes hold how much power. this can often be a mess of inconsistencies and contradictions, as anyone who observes the american political system can instantly get

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

its something thats a poor conductor of electricity op

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022


docbeard posted:

It's a philosophy for toddlers (people who can't count higher than 2, and who believe that only the things right in front of their face that they can see are real)

wut

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007


it's a joke

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

oh so now the immortal science is a joke???

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

it's when you're taking about cloth, but with an accent

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

mawarannahr posted:

it's when you're taking about cloth, but with an accent



kenté

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

Gleichheit soll gedeihen

Vomik posted:

oh so now the immortal science is a joke???

yes

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Jabberlock
Nov 29, 2014



diabolical materialism is just capitalism

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