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Hippie Hedgehog posted:Last graphic novel I read was https://www.amazon.com/Ducks-Two-Years-Oil-Sands/dp/1770462899 by Kate Beaton. Brilliantly put together. Has a lot to say about class and sexism, and does it oh so well. I came here expressly to recommend this
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Cephas posted:I'm a big dumb nerd who loves cartoons and comic books and I have an entire book case devoted to indie graphic novels and manga. Here are a few things I've enjoyed lately. I hope you don't mind me timg'ing my shoutouts, because I feel like, you know, graphic novels, right? I am gonna write a longer post cause I also love way too many graphic novels, but I wanted to say please post images it is fun. Tillie Walden's stuff is real important to me, it's just some of the best stuff I've ever read. On a Sunbeam is incredible - Are You Listening? might be my favorite graphic novel of the last handful of years, it's so good. It's difficult to separate comics from graphic novels I think. I'm not sure how to define them separately but a lot of the folks I really enjoy working in the medium make "comics" that feel like graphic novels and work across both "genres." Tom King's Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow feels like it straddles that line but it's also one of the best comics/graphic novels I've read in the last bit and he writes what folks would classify as both comics and graphics. Distinction feels nebulous. Stuff I definitely have loved: King City Duncan the Wonder Dog Laura Dean Keeps Breaking up With Me Daytripper The Spire Berlin The Many Deaths of Laila Starr Rorshach So many more, they're so good
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Major Isoor posted:drat, that must've been great! That's a very cool experience, to hear about. Was pretty cool to live through as well. (I was in middle school at the time). Later I would lend the comics to some of my friends, pacing them one issue per week at most, so they could emulate that aspect of the experience.
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Alright, so this is more related to standard comic fare rather than one of the more fancy kinds of graphic novels. So, after it came up in the Book Holy Grails thread, I noticed and snagged the elusive (down here for a not-poo poo price, anyway) omnibuses for the 1998 Martian Manhunter run by Jon Ostrander (Son of Mars and Rings of Saturn), which should be here in a few weeks. But what I'm wondering is, has anyone read any of the later issues? Since these two collections 'only' go up to issue 17, while I noticed that Jon Ostrander did a bunch more. Probably enough for another omni. So, are these actually considered 'required reading' after SoM and RoS, or is it basically just picking up with a new storyline, after RoS (hopefully) is properly concluded? Since yeah, I'm mostly wondering whether I should consider trying to get these issues (as it doesn't look like they were put into a collection like the previous ones) but if SoM+RoS' arcs are concluded reasonably well, it's probably not worth it - certainly not at this stage, anyway.
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May 25, 2023 06:35
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I'm pretty sure the only graphic novel I own is the adaptation of the 9/11 Commission Report.
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May 25, 2023 13:31
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Cephas posted:It's Lonely at the Center of the Earth by Zoe Thorogood is a virtuosic doom spiral of a graphic memoir about being a gifted kid with severe depression. The art in this is really bold. My wife and I bought this after I saw it in this thread and I liked the art, so thanks for the recommendation. It was a great read. I'd say it was relatable but then I feel like I'd just be part of that parade of con-goers that she wrote into the book
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got this as a christmas present from my mom some years ago: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6347769-stuffed it is...different. i can't really say i recommend it, but i can't say it sucks either. the art is mostly adequate, the writing is okay, the characters are not entirely believable , and the plot is absurd. but when it's all mixed together, it is something a bit greater then the sum of its parts. the line "right in the volcano!" sticks with me to this day. if you like weird stuff, it might be your cuppa.
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May 28, 2023 02:47
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might be a little obvious, but Marjane Satrapi's Persepolis is an interesting autobiographical account of growing up during Iran's Islamic Revolution, which also tries to tell the story of Iran itself
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May 29, 2023 12:50
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i loved reading her books during my sophomore year of college + the movie is some excellent rear end animation also marjane satrapi posted:I don't like 'graphic novel.' It's a word that publishers created for the bourgeois to read comics without feeling bad. Comics is just a way of narrating - it's just a media type.
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May 29, 2023 15:10
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I finished Rusty Brown recently and drat that is good. I know it's pretty old hat to praise Chris Ware at this point, everyone knows what he can do, but he really does have a mastery of the medium, especially with pushing it in new directions. The layouts in the Jason Lint section especially are amazing. Relentlessly depressing though!
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FrumpleOrz posted:I finished Rusty Brown recently and drat that is good. I know it's pretty old hat to praise Chris Ware at this point, everyone knows what he can do, but he really does have a mastery of the medium, especially with pushing it in new directions. The layouts in the Jason Lint section especially are amazing. Relentlessly depressing though! I was gifted Building Stories for Christmas and it's gorgeous. I iwsh more comics were creative with their format. Still not done reading it after half a year because I already have enough existential angst and neuroses.
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Cephas posted:I really like Tillie Walden's graphic novels. On a Sunbeam is her biggest work, a queer scifi found family story in space, and it's completely free on her website. Thanks for the recommendations, thread! Vacation time is here and I had some time for reading. I started out with The Many Deaths of Laila Starr. I found it fun and loved the art. It has a refreshing non-western perspective on mythology and life, but I have a hard time looking past the fact that both Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman have covered the same ground before, both very well. On a Sunbeam was my cup of tea, I love this kind of science-fantasy world building. I’d call it fantasy set in space rather than sci-fi since it’s thankfully free of any attempts to explain how or why the far-future universe seemingly has no planets, how people can live in free-flying houses in the void, how they have air to breathe, and how the all-women population reproduces. It just plops you down in the middle of it and lets you discover it by following the story. I’d say the only weak point in the storytelling is the monologue about pronouns. It kind of took me out of the illusion for a bit. I suppose I just can’t believe that in this futuristic no-male utopia, some people would still not respect others’ preferred pronouns. Gonna start on The Incal next. I expect to be taken right back into machismo world. Jodorowsky never struck me as a feminist.
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Well, The Incal was certainly a trip. These guys have taken some hallucinogens over the years and it shows. Very little of it makes any sense, but I guess there is something to be said for maximalism. At every turn, there is something more, something beyond or something inside. In a single sitting, it gets to be a bit much. Probably better as an episodic.
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Finally sat down with Persepolis. Should have read this years ago. It’s finally back in print in Swedish! I’m kind of burned out on autobiographical graphic novels but this is one not to miss, nonetheless. Satrapi uses every page at her disposal optimally. Everything in there has a point.
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yeah it's a very tight, focused work. i'm not a big fan of coming of age stories generally but i enjoyed Persepolis. the way Satrapi almost attacks her own right to tell the story (a religious, bourgeois Marxist who feels like an outsider everywhere portraying Iran for a primarily Western audience) and digs into tensions and contradictions makes an interesting read
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Not a graphic novel, but I really enjoyed reading Maus Now, a collection of critical essays about Maus. They definitely increased my appreciation of Maus (which I'll have to reread; I haven't looked at it since high school) and point out all sorts of clever visual tricks I missed.
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Has anyone read the old Teknophage comics? I found a cheap used trade that collects the series and it's god drat bonkers. It's about a 65 million year old dinosaur that now runs a megacorporation in a corporate fascist state and he rolls around in a giant skyscraper on tank treads that runs on the harvested souls of people. I don't know if it's a good series but it is unique. I guess Neil Gaiman came up with the concept and Rick Veitch wrote the story. No idea how involved Gaiman was after seeding the ideas but it's interesting satire on the end result of capitalism.Sir Mat of Dickie posted:Not a graphic novel, but I really enjoyed reading Maus Now, a collection of critical essays about Maus. They definitely increased my appreciation of Maus (which I'll have to reread; I haven't looked at it since high school) and point out all sorts of clever visual tricks I missed. I've been meaning to read that for a while. I revisited Maus after decades a few months back and I was surprised both at how well it holds up and how surprisingly understated the whole thing is. It's really matter-of-fact and an incredibly human work.
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FrumpleOrz posted:Has anyone read the old Teknophage comics? I found a cheap used trade that collects the series and it's god drat bonkers. It's about a 65 million year old dinosaur that now runs a megacorporation in a corporate fascist state and he rolls around in a giant skyscraper on tank treads that runs on the harvested souls of people. I don't know if it's a good series but it is unique. I guess Neil Gaiman came up with the concept and Rick Veitch wrote the story. No idea how involved Gaiman was after seeding the ideas but it's interesting satire on the end result of capitalism.. I paged through the first few issues. An interesting idea but I think the execution is lacking. Maybe it gets better later?
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Nah, I'm sure it's never going to be good but I have to admire the weirdness of it, especially in the glut of stuff that was its contemporaries in the 90s. There were a couple pages of interesting layouts that make you follow word boxes all over the page in loops. I'm just kinda fascinated by this strange little universe, even if it doesn't really work in the end. I ordered the books for the other two series that complement Teknophage because they're very cheap. I've heard Lady Justice is awful but curiosity has gotten the better of me.
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i recommend anything by charles burns such as black hole or x'ed out i also enjoyed puke force by the lightning bolt drummer
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Black Hole is loving awesome, completely underrated. I need to crack back into that one, I haven't read it in a while. One of the books where getting to read it while I was still in high school was a supreme privilege that I didn't even understand at the time.
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uggy posted:
Just wrapped up this. I love the art style and I giggled way more at the interminable puns and stupid visual gags than I should have. Things I didn’t enjoy: The male gaze thing (ie how all the women are depicted). How the female characters only serve as a object of desire for the male protagonists.
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Hippie Hedgehog posted:Just wrapped up this. I love the art style and I giggled way more at the interminable puns and stupid visual gags than I should have. Ya, brandon graham's stuff has serious issues with that. It's harder for me to revisit now than it was when I was younger, but I enjoy the world building and the art and the puns. King City is probably the least overtly sexual book of his I've read too - there's definitely a lot of sex that he draws and it's uhhh not great. Love me some earthling tho, a good cat.
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uggy posted:Ya, brandon graham's stuff has serious issues with that. It's harder for me to revisit now than it was when I was younger, but I enjoy the world building and the art and the puns. King City is probably the least overtly sexual book of his I've read too - there's definitely a lot of sex that he draws and it's uhhh not great. Cat mastery rocks.
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Youremother posted:Black Hole is loving awesome, completely underrated. I need to crack back into that one, I haven't read it in a while. One of the books where getting to read it while I was still in high school was a supreme privilege that I didn't even understand at the time. It really disturbed me when I was in high school, but I loved it. I'm a little afraid to go back to it because I doubt it would hit again the same way.
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Everyone should read Beanworld. It's brilliant stuff and I don't know why it's not more revered. The mixture of the 80s black-and-white stuff, classic Krazy Kat, and religious origin myths is great.Sir Mat of Dickie posted:It really disturbed me when I was in high school, but I loved it. I'm a little afraid to go back to it because I doubt it would hit again the same way. I just read Black Hole for the first time this year and I think you'll find a lot of interesting stuff in there as an adult.
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FrumpleOrz posted:Everyone should read Beanworld. It's brilliant stuff and I don't know why it's not more revered. The mixture of the 80s black-and-white stuff, classic Krazy Kat, and religious origin myths is great. Beanworld is being posted in the PYF comics thread right now and I loving love it! It's everything I like in a work of fiction: bizarre intricate worldbuilding, cute stuff with weird dark undertones, fun characters, and long-spanning myth arcs where inscrutable powers play games with the ordinary lives of the characters. It's so loving good.
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Youremother posted:Beanworld is being posted in the PYF comics thread right now and I loving love it! It's everything I like in a work of fiction: bizarre intricate worldbuilding, cute stuff with weird dark undertones, fun characters, and long-spanning myth arcs where inscrutable powers play games with the ordinary lives of the characters. It's so loving good. I'm working my way through the second omnibus right now. I read the first one a while back and I was blown away. I love how it doesn't bother to explain why things are, they just are. The way the stories are told with plenty of repetition really makes it feel different from anything else. Something about the Bone Zone and the Hoi-Polloi really creep me out in a good way too.
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