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Archyduke posted:I'd forgotten all about V being separated from everyone else. I wonder if Burlew is going to keep him on his own for long... it might be interesting to see the Order that fractured for a while. He's a spellcaster. Chances are he'll just pop back in a strip or two.
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Judging by the way they're talking, it doesn't seem like bringing back Roy is even on the table. Which makes me sad, as he was my favorite character, but it is reasonable. They can't get his body, and where would they get the money even if they could?
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Vorxnyx posted:He's a spellcaster. Chances are he'll just pop back in a strip or two. Invisibility only lasts for a few minutes though. Considering that that was his last spell, I wonder how he'll manage to sneak by the Hongoblin army. Unless of course he has a few scrolls tucked away for emergencies.
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Belkar: "I am sick to death of the color blue!" Is that a shout-out to these forums? I recall exactly that sentence being posted here.
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Robot Bastard posted:Belkar: "I am sick to death of the color blue!" Is that a shout-out to these forums? I recall exactly that sentence being posted here. No, I think he was just...sick to death of the color blue.
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Robot Bastard posted:Belkar: "I am sick to death of the color blue!" Is that a shout-out to these forums? I recall exactly that sentence being posted here. Maybe ... he's a GOON!?! Honestly, Belkar just said what we were all thinking. I doubt it's specific to BSS.
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UberJew posted:Judging by the way they're talking, it doesn't seem like bringing back Roy is even on the table. Which makes me sad, as he was my favorite character, but it is reasonable. They can't get his body, and where would they get the money even if they could? Why couldn't they get his body? The entieriety of the hobgoblin army is inside Azure City, and no one is really guarding or even near his corpse. I think its a straight shot between the Order and Roy, for the most part. They probably assumed, however, that upon stopping Xykon and company they would be allowed to raise him with Azure City footing the hefty bill, but now that they are soundly defeated they don't have much in the way of limitless finances (ever since their treasure was blown up I've assumed they aren't exactly on the up and up, financially). Of course, being unfamiliar with the details of Raise Undead, I have no idea if there's a time limit/etc.
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Choke Babies Now posted:Although he is correct in stating that that man does make a fine roast chicken. I came here primarily to post about just how right Durkon is about the man's roast chicken. That was my favorite drat chicken place, then both of the outlets in my town closed at once. Stupid Kenny Rogers  Also, the question is, will the nobles' boats all be overrun and slaughtered for fun, or only show up to chastize poor Hinjo? Wolfsheim posted:Of course, being unfamiliar with the details of Raise Undead, I have no idea if there's a time limit/etc. I am not sure if you were talking about raising the dead or creating undead here, but the basic "raise dead" has a limit of days per caster level, while the two higher level ones go years per level and maybe even "no time limit" at the highest. As for creating undead, I am pretty sure there is no limit on that, or at least I have never seen anyone play it with a limit.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Roy basically the motivating force for them to be after Xykon in the first place? If they don't resurrect Roy they're not particularly motivated in any direction, unless Hinjo takes over as motivator.
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Factor_VIII posted:Invisibility only lasts for a few minutes though. Considering that that was his last spell, I wonder how he'll manage to sneak by the Hongoblin army. Unless of course he has a few scrolls tucked away for emergencies. Yeah, but when spellcasters say they have "one spell left" what they mean is "one spell left and then a teleport spell when things go south."
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Vorxnyx posted:Yeah, but when spellcasters say they have "one spell left" what they mean is "one spell left and then a teleport spell when things go south." V can't cast teleport. It's Conjuration, his prohibited school. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0340.html
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Teleportation is in V's barred school: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0340.html EDIT: I HATE YOU
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Factor_VIII posted:Invisibility only lasts for a few minutes though. Considering that that was his last spell, I wonder how he'll manage to sneak by the Hongoblin army. Unless of course he has a few scrolls tucked away for emergencies. Invisibility lasts an hour per caster level. It should be plenty of time for V to get somewhere safe.
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Schwarzwald posted:Invisibility lasts an hour per caster level. It should be plenty of time for V to get somewhere safe.  .
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Hentaikid posted:Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Roy basically the motivating force for them to be after Xykon in the first place? If they don't resurrect Roy they're not particularly motivated in any direction, unless Hinjo takes over as motivator. I don't know if that's the case any more, since they know about Snarl and the gates and all now.
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Hentaikid posted:Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Roy basically the motivating force for them to be after Xykon in the first place? If they don't resurrect Roy they're not particularly motivated in any direction, unless Hinjo takes over as motivator. I would assume that having Xykon kill Roy might give them some motivation to stick it to him later on. I mean, the OotS can be pretty disfunctional, but they all liked Roy. If anything, they seem to have a better reason now.
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Ashcans posted:I would assume that having Xykon kill Roy might give them some motivation to stick it to him later on. I mean, the OotS can be pretty disfunctional, but they all liked Roy. If anything, they seem to have a better reason now. Except Belkar.
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Wolfsheim posted:Except Belkar. Belkar was getting to like Roy at the end there!
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Ferrinus posted:Belkar was getting to like Roy at the end there! Yes, that's why he gambled Roy's life on a cheap bet with a complete stranger. He might have thought Roy was kinda cool, but he didn't have any emotional attachement to the guy or anything.
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tsob posted:Yes, that's why he gambled Roy's life on a cheap bet with a complete stranger. He might have thought Roy was kinda cool, but he didn't have any emotional attachement to the guy or anything. He can still use Roy as an excuse for indiscriminate slaughter.
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New Erfworld. It appears that Stanley's reliance on uncroaked troopers is going to bite him in the rear end. Worse, it could screw up Parson's masterstroke. Of course, I was never a big fan of Ender's Game type plans, anyway.
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Yeah, but we don't know what else Parson did this turn (he killed the seige engines "for an opener," right?). My guess is his comment earlier about the Alliance having to deal with fog of war adding a new dimension to his plan means that he's set up a trap in the center hex. Of course, whether that trap can deal with the Arkenpliers, which he probably doesn't know about, is another thing entierly.
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Kramer posted:V can't cast teleport. It's Conjuration, his prohibited school. Whoops, forgot that  I didn't remember that whole Transmutation/Conjuration clusterfuck. But yeah, Invisibility ought to get him out as long as he doesn't do anything stupid.
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Kahrytes posted:He can still use Roy as an excuse for indiscriminate slaughter. Its much easier to get away with standing atop a pile of slaughtered hobgoblins (sidenote:that was the greatest Belkar, and possibly greatest overall moment in the entire comic) rather than slaughtered humans, and Roy does further this goal. I think my love of Belkar comes from the fact that I've primarily played the stab-crazy, mood-breaking rear end in a top hat of more than a few tabletop games in my day v v
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Halloween Jack posted:New Erfworld. Actually, I rather got the impression that the fact that the undead warlords weren't much for thinking was going to be the downfall of the attacking force. Parson attacked with the long range dragons only, then brought them back to hide in the trees when they were hurt. Anson's group is fairly certain that if they don't do something now, they'll lose their chance. I'm fairly certain though, that Parson has hidden "B-movement" (aka lower movement) dragons in with his injured, banking on the low intel of his enemy, to lure them into a very big ambush. This is why he wanted to move at night, to cut down on the risk of detection. The fact that the arkenpliers can take down undead is a minimal concern; all of the overlords in the dragon group are expendable, and the arkenhammer ensures that Stanley could order a full withdrawl if he needed to. Anson's welcome to engage dragons head on to get to them as well. Add that to the fact that the attackers have to spend all of their movement to get to the ambush, and Parson is going to slaughter them, and have enough movement to get back within the city for a full heal. The only wild card is whatshername. Jillian? Sounds right. She's an undepenable double agent it seems, and might just pull through in the clutch if cavalry is needed. I've been reading this thing since the start, and I'm hoping that this is, at long last, a sign of life.
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could we maybe talk about erfworld in its own thread, or in the main webcomics thread? it really doesn't have anything to do with oots aside from being hosted on the same site. I mean if no one else minds then whatever it's just my opinion you know vv
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Occam posted:could we maybe talk about erfworld in its own thread, or in the main webcomics thread? it really doesn't have anything to do with oots aside from being hosted on the same site. I mean if no one else minds then whatever it's just my opinion you know v Also, it sucks.
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Erfworld isn't that bad really. I don't think it's doing any harm having discussions here about it.
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TJO posted:Erfworld isn't that bad really. I don't think it's doing any harm having discussions here about it. It makes me not want to read this thread. 
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Now it's my turn to say "dude it's just a webcomic, get over it".
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Occam posted:could we maybe talk about erfworld in its own thread, or in the main webcomics thread? it really doesn't have anything to do with oots aside from being hosted on the same site. I mean if no one else minds then whatever it's just my opinion you know v I've been wanting to say pretty much the same thing for a while now. I didn't speak up because I thought nobody else cared.
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Kramer posted:I've been wanting to say pretty much the same thing for a while now. I didn't speak up because I thought nobody else cared. I started reading it because of this thread. The thing is, Erfworld doesn't deserve it's own thread. It updates twice a week (if we're lucky) and still mvoes so slowly that, aside from the creepy lesbian bondage scene, hasn't even inspired any real discussion until now.
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Soonmot posted:I started reading it because of this thread. The thing is, Erfworld doesn't deserve it's own thread. It updates twice a week (if we're lucky) and still mvoes so slowly that, aside from the creepy lesbian bondage scene, hasn't even inspired any real discussion until now.
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You guys get a billion pages of faggotry about D&D alignment, I get one or two pages about Erfworld. Deal. t t NutShellBill posted:The fact that the arkenpliers can take down undead is a minimal concern; all of the overlords in the dragon group are expendable, and the arkenhammer ensures that Stanley could order a full withdrawl if he needed to. Anson's welcome to engage dragons head on to get to them as well.
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NutShellBill posted:I'm fairly certain though, that Parson has hidden "B-movement" (aka lower movement) dragons in with his injured, banking on the low intel of his enemy, to lure them into a very big ambush. This is why he wanted to move at night, to cut down on the risk of detection. Keep in mind when he wanted to move at night, he thought Ansom had perfect intel, just as they did. I think he wanted to move at night so that he wouldn't have to waste move getting the dragons into position, allowing him to withdraw them further. Personally? I think that there's nothing in the centre of the circle -- the "A" group has retreated to another hex, well back of the B group. It's bait. Knowing that Ansom can't know what's in the centre until he breaks through the ring, Parson's using the lure of the chance to take out a bunch of badly-injured dwagons to get Ansom to commit all of his forest-based troops to an attack. They'll move into the centre of the circle, and then find themselves surrounded, with no move to retreat. In the next turn, Parson will decimate them, and then resume harassing the column -- but now, with no forest-based troops, Ansom will have no way to counter the attacks.
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What if we split off a General RPG Comic Thread, including Erfworld and Goblins? I've wanted to post about Goblins a few times also. It'd probably be a slower-moving thread, but I'm okay with that.
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Halloween Jack posted:What does the Arkenhammer do, exactly? As far as I can tell, it just lets him make dwagons. And float. Oh, and it has a one in 4 or 5 chance of turning walnuts into pigeons. Stanley can order a full withdrawal because he has an excellent intelligence and communications network set up. However, he can only order that withdrawal while it is still his turn. Besides, the strategy is probably going to turn out that the central hex is empty, the position was a red herring and Ansom wasted all his move for the turn, leaving him in a defensively weak position for the next morning.
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ZorbaTHut posted:What if we split off a General RPG Comic Thread, including Erfworld and Goblins? I've wanted to post about Goblins a few times also. It'd probably be a slower-moving thread, but I'm okay with that. because those 2 and oots are about is about it as far as D&D comics go? if we can argue the minutae of D&D rules, we can discuss the other 2 comics on the drat site
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The Wondersaurus posted:Besides, the strategy is probably going to turn out that the central hex is empty, the position was a red herring and Ansom wasted all his move for the turn, leaving him in a defensively weak position for the next morning. Also, I think the Arkenhammer doesn't let him make dragons, it lets him control them.
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I don't read Erfworld, but I quite like seeing it being discussed in here as I don't read the webcomic's thread and I'd like to know if they get good for a start, so that I can read them at that point. And secondly I just find the discussions about Erfworld, and the tactics employed interesting.
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