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Entropic posted:I just finished Jingo, so I'm well on the I-heart-Vimes bandwagon now. Howondaland on the Klatchian continent is the catchall for jungle areas, sort of a combination of South/Central America and the African jungles. Rincewind goes there in Eric and encounters Quetzovercoatal, so it's got a Mayan/Incan vibe. The Hubland seems to be a combination of the Himalayas and the North Pole. I believe the Monks of Time, who are based on Tibetan monks, live there. The Rim seems to be equivalent to the equatorial and South Pacific islands. Llamados is definitely some part of the British Isles. It's rainy and has druids and standing stones. What about Omnia? It's got obvious parallels to the Catholic church but it's set in a desert... maybe a mixture of Jersualem, Mecca and Vatican City?
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Hentaikid posted:Jeffrey Jones (As well as Alan Rickman) was Terry's casting choice for Vetinari, at least some years ago Rickman, on the other hand, seems ideal. The only problem is that people might start thinking "Lord Snape", and we haven't seen him do a good eyebrow arch.
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Leospeare posted:Llamados is definitely some part of the British Isles. It's rainy and has druids and standing stones. Llamedos (write it backwards) is most definitely Wales, given the language, the accent, the celtic themes, the huge amount of rain and more importantly the fact that the name is borrowed from the made-up Welsh town of Llareggub from Under Milk Wood. (again, spell it backwards)
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withak posted:I think Lancre is just generic British-Isle hillbilly with no particular cultural cultural origin. I recall reading somewhere that Lancre is based on the region (and it's size) where Pterry grew up, but with more cliffs.
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Pope Guilty posted:I think Uberwald has a fair bit of Germany in it, as well. Transylvania was part of the Austrian Empire fora few centuries and colonization area for the Teutonic Knights and German settlers since the 12th century. It was pretty much German until 1920 when it became part of Romania. Decius fucked around with this message at 18:57 on May 6, 2008 |
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Leospeare posted:The Hubland seems to be a combination of the Himalayas and the North Pole. I believe the Monks of Time, who are based on Tibetan monks, live there. There's also a bit of Scandinavia in there, since it is the main source of epic barbarian heroes, seeking their fortunes in the sunnier climes of A-M.
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Entropic posted:So let me just see if I have the approximate analogical geography right... Quirm = France, or at least Quirmian is French.
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May 7, 2008 15:34
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Capn_Marrrrk posted:I recall reading somewhere that Lancre is based on the region (and it's size) where Pterry grew up, but with more cliffs. Yeah, they do have Morris Dancers, aren't they an English rather than British thing?
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May 7, 2008 20:16
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shadok posted:Quirm = France, or at least Quirmian is French. Don't forget about Leonard de Quirm though, so it probably has some Italian mixed in as well.
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NastyPBears posted:Yeah, they do have Morris Dancers, aren't they an English rather than British thing? Lancre is basically all of rural England rolled into one tiny vertical country, with bits of Scotland and so on thrown in for flavour.
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I haven't been able to find The Last Hero in the few brick & mortars around here, is it not with the regular novels? I know the Tiffany Aching stuff is over in the teen section.
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LooseChanj posted:I haven't been able to find The Last Hero in the few brick & mortars around here, is it not with the regular novels? I know the Tiffany Aching stuff is over in the teen section. Well, it's much bigger than the other books and it has illustrations on every page, so it's not a "regular" novel per se. Though where it could be instead I don't know  Also I'm going to write a 12 page essay for the end of my university literature class about different moralic and ethical philosophies in Carpe Jugulum. gently caress Strindberg, I'm gonna write about vampires.
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LooseChanj posted:I haven't been able to find The Last Hero in the few brick & mortars around here, is it not with the regular novels? I know the Tiffany Aching stuff is over in the teen section. I got mine from the comic book store when noone else had it; they might be worth a look.
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Dead Alice posted:I got mine from the comic book store when noone else had it; they might be worth a look. Not at this point, I ordered it off B&N this morning.  I did discover a nifty little thingy where you can check local stores' inventories for stuff, so that was pretty cool.
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I got halfway through Night Watch today and I'm loving it so far. I can take or leave stuff like the Witches books, but the Watch books have never failed to impress me. Anything with Vimes and Vetinari in it is gold. And Night Watch has one of the best first sentences of the Discworld books: quote:Sam Vimes sighed when he heard the scream, but he finished shaving before he did anything about it.
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May 24, 2008 04:42
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I finished The Last Hero last night, and it was fun even though the story was a little light. But half the fun were the illustrations, so it wasn't any big deal. I love all the Kite stuff, since I'm a big space fan anyways.
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Only the first fifteen or so book are translated into Finnish, so I haven't gotten to enjoy his later work very much. ...Maybe I'll just buy them in English, though. It's just not as enjoyable to read it in your bizarre language.
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Finns aren't allowed to call anyone else's language bizarre.
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I just realized what day it is today. Completely by coincidence I finished reading Night Watch on the Glorious 24th of May. And the lilacs are in bloom.  
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I would tend to agree that his latest books have been of an increasing quality - But then there is Making Money. Moist's character was bland and nothing like he was in Going Postal - He seemed to have all the charisma of a bumbling office worker with the charm of a gnat. It seemed an incredibly half-baked idea. As far as I could tell, it was Pratchett who was "Making Money".
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Noreaus posted:I would tend to agree that his latest books have been of an increasing quality - But then there is Making Money. Moist's character was bland and nothing like he was in Going Postal - He seemed to have all the charisma of a bumbling office worker with the charm of a gnat. It seemed an incredibly half-baked idea. As far as I could tell, it was Pratchett who was "Making Money". What about his characterisation did you think was bad? I tend to like Moist, and he's going to make a good replacement for Vetinari if it ever happens. And these are city books that dont dwell on the Watch for too long, because there are books totally given over to that now. Wish he'd go off and do one big book about Ephebe, or XXXX (without Rincewind) or on Twoflower.
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ibroxmassive posted:What about his characterisation did you think was bad? I tend to like Moist, and he's going to make a good replacement for Vetinari if it ever happens. Vetinari does seem to be grooming him as a potential replacement, in my estimation.
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The_Doctor posted:Vetinari does seem to be grooming him as a potential replacement, in my estimation. The thing is, and I know this is quite morbid, that story arc seems to need at least three or more books to fully complete. It'd be really horrible if Terry couldn't write any more and the stories went unwritten, unless Terry himself groomed a successor to write the stories he wanted too. As below, so above kinda thing.
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ibroxmassive posted:The thing is, and I know this is quite morbid, that story arc seems to need at least three or more books to fully complete. It'd be really horrible if Terry couldn't write any more and the stories went unwritten, unless Terry himself groomed a successor to write the stories he wanted too. He ate'nt dead yet. Stop being so morbid.
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ibroxmassive posted:unless Terry himself groomed a successor to write the stories he wanted too. I asked him this once (we're cousins). He said Discworld dies with him, as it were.
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The_Doctor posted:I asked him this once (we're cousins). He said Discworld dies with him, as it were. You have another cousin at Nintendo, perchance?
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MultiJoe posted:You have another cousin at Nintendo, perchance? Not that I know of, not in our immediate family, anyway.
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Just finished reading Making Money, and I don't quite agree with the claim that it was no good and Moist had no charisma. Anyone who can get not only the city but 4,000 golems to do his bidding has got to have some charisma, after all.  I've got Thud! lined up to read next, but I may save that for my vacation at the end of June. It's been a while since I read about old Vimesy so I'm looking forward to it.
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Smobey posted:Only the first fifteen or so book are translated into Finnish, so I haven't gotten to enjoy his later work very much. I think you really, really should read them in english. Even though those finnish translations are decent (I've read most of them) you still lose a lot when you're not reading in the language Pratchett wrote them. There are few wordplays and jokes here and there that just can't be or are not translated. And there's this subjective "feel" to these books that I find some of translated books lack. And the english version are also a lot cheaper too.
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Chamberk posted:Just finished reading Making Money, and I don't quite agree with the claim that it was no good and Moist had no charisma. Anyone who can get not only the city but 4,000 golems to do his bidding has got to have some charisma, after all. Thud! is terrific. There's some really good payoff to the longstanding dwarf/troll animosity. And the Where's My Cow? bits just killed me.  The City Watch books just get progressively better and better.
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The_Doctor posted:Vetinari does seem to be grooming him as a potential replacement, in my estimation. I cant remember where I heard this but I think Terrys been asked about it and said that Moist doesent really have the killer instinct to be patrician.
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Three Red Lights posted:I cant remember where I heard this but I think Terrys been asked about it and said that Moist doesent really have the killer instinct to be patrician. That's what the army of golems is for. Don't blame me, I voted for "Mad" Lord Snapcase.
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LooseChanj posted:If anyone's going to replace the Patrician, it's gonna be Vimes. He'd have to be dragged kicking and screaming.
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Entropic posted:He'd have to be dragged kicking and screaming. Which is exactly why he's the perfect man for the job. 
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LooseChanj posted:Which is exactly why he's the perfect man for the job. I'm not convinced. He'd piss off far too many people to survive for long.
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Entropic posted:I'm not convinced. He'd piss off far too many people to survive for long. Which is what Moist's army of golems is for. Or having the entirety of the police force personally subservient to him, the Assassin's Guild refusing to take any more contracts on him, and his direct knowledge of and close relationship with every criminal of import in the city. Not to mention that the benefit of killing him off could not come close to the difficulties involved with missing him. There is no corner of the Disc far enough away for you to hide in. Not to mention the unbelievable blowback from both his friends and enemies if you did kill him.
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LooseChanj posted:If anyone's going to replace the Patrician, it's gonna be Vimes. Vimes and Vetinari are about the same age - if anything Vimes is a little older. Hardly protege material.
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shadok posted:Vimes and Vetinari are about the same age - if anything Vimes is a little older. Hardly protege material. I think where Vetinari is concerned, *everyone* is protoge material. But my main logic here is that Vimes would be so reluctant a politician he'd actually be pretty good at it. Sort of the inverse of Douglas Adams "anyone who wants power shouldn't be allowed to have it". Plus he's the kind of bastard who won't be able to retire and will end up working till the day he dies.
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