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Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
European side markers. Al of the Eunos labeled "Roadsters" I've seen have those.

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AkrisD
Sep 2, 2004
olololol '04 newb hurrrrrrr
I'm also thinking about getting new shocks/springs for my NB since the ride seems a little harsh nowadays. I was thinking of going with the FM Stage I kit and upgrading to ground controls along with it so I can lower my car nicely. It's gonna be for pretty much street use and I'm young so I don't mind it being harsh. Any advice?

I also need brakes so I'm going with the Hawk HPS, any troubles with these before I pull the trigger?

Ziploc
Sep 19, 2006
MX-5

Amir posted:

Do you think they're still good after they've been ridden around on for several years due to the PO not realizing the shocks were blown?

Did you get FM springs too or did you use stock/some other brand? Did you use FCM bumps/boots on all 4 corners? Which bumps did you choose? I hear good things about 36mm front/46mm rear combo but I'm worried the ride might be harsh. FCM suggests 54mm progressive bumps for a "more comfortable ride". Any suggestions?

I kept my springs. I choose the 54mm progressive as they work very well with the stock springs. I can barely tell when I'm touching them.

I also don't see how the bumps would be that badly damaged anyway. You should be tossing them regardless.

http://www.fatcatmotorsports.com/igallery/graphics/CHART_FCM_46_54_vs_63mm_NA_1.JPG

EDIT: My suspension goals were more for comfort and ride composure/body control than anything else. I only autocross 6-8 times a year and do it for fun more than anything else. The Tokico/FCM Bumps did a very very good job of freshening up my ride quality. I look forward to bumps now as I can feel the suspension working instead of it just giving up.

I still have FM Swaybars waiting to go in. A fellow at autocross said they transform the car. We shall see.

Ziploc fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Jun 13, 2008

GOLDMAN SACHS PARTY
Sep 2, 2004

by Fistgrrl
OK, as I understand it this is your setup (let me know if I missed anything):

Tokico Illuminas
Stock Springs
FCM Mounts
54mm progressive bumpstops


Also, any reason you got the Tokicos from FM? They're cheaper on eBay and other places like shox.com

6-Ethyl Bearcat
Apr 27, 2008

Go out

Walked posted:

Wow, that looks pretty clean for a 1990. Very nice. Enjoy it, I picked mine up last Friday and also, am in love :love:

Definitely enjoying it! And it's in remarkable condition, for being almost as old as I am.

Phone posted:

European side markers. Al of the Eunos labeled "Roadsters" I've seen have those.

For accuracy's sake mine's Australian, but they're pretty much identical to the Eunos' that were imported here from Japan. My friend owned a 1989 Eunos Roadster and he says the main one he noticed is that he had power steering. (Lucky bastard.)

Ziploc
Sep 19, 2006
MX-5

Amir posted:

OK, as I understand it this is your setup (let me know if I missed anything):

Tokico Illuminas
Stock Springs
FCM Mounts
54mm progressive bumpstops


Also, any reason you got the Tokicos from FM? They're cheaper on eBay and other places like shox.com

I wanted a warranty. And I was getting my FM Sways at the same time. FM actually sent me 3 front shocks and 1 rear. :downs: But they took care of everything so it wasn't an issue.

I asked Tokico and they said eBay warrantys weren't valid. And For the hassle I would rather deal with FM. They've given me some great help and advice in the past and I had never even purchased anything from them.

EDIT: Oh I got FCM Boots too since I drive my car in the winter. There are alot of "Stock spring Tokico/KYB" threads on miata.net to read if you want some reactions and reviews. Both Keith from FM and Shaikh from FCM recommended spending the little extra money to get the Tokicos over the KYB. Right after I bought mine FM dropped the KYBs.

Ziploc fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jun 13, 2008

GOLDMAN SACHS PARTY
Sep 2, 2004

by Fistgrrl
Wait Ziploc, so did you keep your stock mounts or not? I think I read FireTora's post when he mentioned FCM mounts and I confused it with your post.

Ziploc
Sep 19, 2006
MX-5

Amir posted:

Wait Ziploc, so did you keep your stock mounts or not? I think I read FireTora's post when he mentioned FCM mounts and I confused it with your post.

Oh poo poo sorry. Yea stock mounts. My ride height was raised slightly by the Tokicos somehow.

Walked
Apr 14, 2003

I have a minor issue, perhaps someone has run into it before.

My driver's side window washer nozzle leaks whenever I take the car on >15min drives. It's a very minor leak, but nonetheless anytime I take it out, I get out to find a good few drops of window washing fluid on my hood.

Any suggestions? My first thought is that perhaps the reservoir is overfilled and the heat from the engine causes expansion and is as such forcing it out the nozzle slowly. ..Is this realistic? I just purchased the car, and perhaps it was previously overfilled. The reservoir is definitely full, but not to the tip top either.

Any thoughts would be great, its not a huge hangup, but it does annoy me.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Has anyone else had a pain in the rear end with new accessory belts? Both of mine were fried on the '99 so I swapped them out today, and for both belts I had to go longer than specified by about an inch or so, new ones of the official spec would just not go on there. I think part of it may be the fact that I went for the Goodyear Gatorbacks - I swear these belts are thicker than anyone else's, and they fit tighter as a result.

Edit: gently caress me, apparently I didn't get everything tightened down all the way since while they didn't squeal yesterday on a 10 mile test drive, they started squealing this morning. Why couldn't you have used a serpentine belt, Mazda?

IOwnCalculus fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jun 16, 2008

Lord of Sword
Dec 12, 2006

We live thinking we will never die.
We die thinking we had never lived.
Cut it out.
There's a 2000 MX5 for sale near me with 102k miles that I'm thinking of buying, but it's been for sale for at least 2 months, in which time it's gone down from £4000, which is fairly average for that mileage/age, to £2990. It's in good condition and visually there's nothing I can see wrong with it, I'm just wondering why no one is buying it. It could be because it's not listed on their website (they specialise in imports and only have 4x4 and MPV categories listed and that's all anyone would see driving past), or that the MOT is running out, but if I take it for a test drive is there anything to look out for which might be putting other people off?

GOLDMAN SACHS PARTY
Sep 2, 2004

by Fistgrrl

Ziploc posted:

Oh poo poo sorry. Yea stock mounts. My ride height was raised slightly by the Tokicos somehow.

Is it noticeable?

Ziploc
Sep 19, 2006
MX-5

Amir posted:

Is it noticeable?

Visually? Yes. Does it make the car look bad? No. Driving around? I don't think so. It doesn't feel any taller. Mind you I haven't autocrossed it yet. But I have ragged on it.

I don't quite know why the height was raised. But I could care less. If anything I welcome the extra travel I get during day to day motoring.

GOLDMAN SACHS PARTY
Sep 2, 2004

by Fistgrrl
On a related note, is the FM Stage 2.5 kit streetable? I wrote them an email but haven't gotten a response yet. The cost of buying all this stuff separately is adding up and maybe I should just buy it all as one package from a reputable dealer. However I am worried about having a harsh ride...

Ziploc
Sep 19, 2006
MX-5

Amir posted:

On a related note, is the FM Stage 2.5 kit streetable? I wrote them an email but haven't gotten a response yet. The cost of buying all this stuff separately is adding up and maybe I should just buy it all as one package from a reputable dealer. However I am worried about having a harsh ride...

You'll get a good response from them.

I would say yes. A lot of people on miata.net have that setup and enjoy the FM Springs. Use the search there and read up. Make sure they are talking about the second generation FM springs though.

Ziploc
Sep 19, 2006
MX-5
I'm going on a weekend camping trip in my Miata and will probably be filling the trunk, tank, and seats.

Should I stiffen the rear shocks in this situation?

GOLDMAN SACHS PARTY
Sep 2, 2004

by Fistgrrl
Any suggestions before I commit to this?

FM Stage 1.5
FCM 36/46 bumps


Will this make a comfortable DD?

Ziploc
Sep 19, 2006
MX-5

Amir posted:

Any suggestions before I commit to this?

FM Stage 1.5
FCM 36/46 bumps


Will this make a comfortable DD?

What are your goals here?

GOLDMAN SACHS PARTY
Sep 2, 2004

by Fistgrrl

Ziploc posted:

What are your goals here?

Relatively comfortable DD with the ability to handle "spirited driving" if needed, without the need for autox or track capabilities

Ziploc
Sep 19, 2006
MX-5

Amir posted:

Relatively comfortable DD with the ability to handle "spirited driving" if needed, without the need for autox or track capabilities

I think you might be going a bit overboard getting FM springs. But you shouldn't suffer to much with them though.

What were your opinions on them after reading what people said at Miata.net? Is there something worrying you?

GOLDMAN SACHS PARTY
Sep 2, 2004

by Fistgrrl

Ziploc posted:

I think you might be going a bit overboard getting FM springs. But you shouldn't suffer to much with them though.

What were your opinions on them after reading what people said at Miata.net? Is there something worrying you?

What's worrying me is the fact that there are too many options and not enough actual data. I wanted to do stock springs/FCM mounts + bumps/Illuminas, but I was told it would lower the car way too much. I had no idea that it would be that low and it seems that there is no clear and concise source of information.
It would be really nice to find task-oriented package suggestions: if you want a DD for comfort only do <x>, if you want a DD + tight handling do <y>, if you want an autox monster do <z>, etc. Sadly there is no such thing!

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
I have Koni yellows with what I assume are stock springs. I'm not planning for a suspension overhaul for another year or so, but it gets the job done very well.

Ziploc
Sep 19, 2006
MX-5

Amir posted:

What's worrying me is the fact that there are too many options and not enough actual data. I wanted to do stock springs/FCM mounts + bumps/Illuminas, but I was told it would lower the car way too much. I had no idea that it would be that low and it seems that there is no clear and concise source of information.
It would be really nice to find task-oriented package suggestions: if you want a DD for comfort only do <x>, if you want a DD + tight handling do <y>, if you want an autox monster do <z>, etc. Sadly there is no such thing!

What was uncomfortable and wrong with your current setup? What do you want to eliminate?

GOLDMAN SACHS PARTY
Sep 2, 2004

by Fistgrrl

Ziploc posted:

What was uncomfortable and wrong with your current setup? What do you want to eliminate?

I have 103k miles on my car. My shocks are totally blown. I am riding on quickly-disintegrating bumpstops. In short, my suspension needs a total overhaul because I want to eliminate my car shaking itself to pieces every time I run over a pebble.

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
I have an Optima Red Top battery in my Miata, and it appears to have gone completely dead somehow practically overnight (worked fine on Sunday, wouldn't even attempt to start today). I didn't leave my lights on or anything (if I turn them on now I hear a clicking sound, and they don't come on). It jumped fine and ran fine afterwards (lights and stereo and everything), but the battery was still dead when I turned the car off after the drive. Is the battery just cooked or is there something wrong with the alternator too? The lights wouldn't run with a dead battery and a dead alternator right?

Some research tells me that if the Optima gets fully discharged (how it got fully discharged is another mystery), the alternator won't be able to charge it back up even after a jump and a long drive. If I buy a trickle charger will I be able to just charge it up and be fine? The battery is only about a year old it should have tons of life left.

Can I hook up the battery from a Mercedes 230SLK to my car to see if it starts up fine with a known good battery, or is there some kind of incompatibility?

laymil
Sep 13, 2005

so it goes...

Elysium posted:

Some research tells me that if the Optima gets fully discharged (how it got fully discharged is another mystery), the alternator won't be able to charge it back up even after a jump and a long drive. If I buy a trickle charger will I be able to just charge it up and be fine? The battery is only about a year old it should have tons of life left.

You should be fine bringing it back with a trickle charger.

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

laymil posted:

You should be fine bringing it back with a trickle charger.

I hooked it up to a trickle charger at 2a, and went to check how it was doing after an hour and it was reading as full... obviously an hour shouldn't have done anything but I tried it out and the car still wouldn't start, rehooked it up to the charger and it's still reading full charge. hrm.

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...
Make sure your battery cables and posts are clean and connected tightly. I don't know how the Miata negative terminal is grounded to the chassis, but give that a good look and check for pinched/frayed/corroded wiring. Optimas take a long time to charge via trickle, so its more likely you have current and voltage limiting corrosion or damage.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Also check to see if you're low on water in the battery; might be low on electrolytes.

On second thought, put in some Brawndo 'cause it's got electrolytes.

Frank Dillinger
May 16, 2007
Jawohl mein herr!
I'm still looking around for a miata, and have seen some really nice 10th anniversary editions. however, a lot of them have "style bar" rollover protectors. i seem to remember them being referred to as "rat-traps". is there any truth to this?

I mean, having a roll bar sounds like a really good idea, but I don't want to end up crushed between my car and the bar in the event of a rollover.

destructo
Apr 29, 2006
You can get a new Hard Dog rollbar (at least in June, shipping is free at one vendor, can't remember offhand) for $400 shipped. I wouldn't not buy a car just because of a style bar.

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...

Phone posted:

Also check to see if you're low on water in the battery; might be low on electrolytes.

On second thought, put in some Brawndo 'cause it's got electrolytes.

I thought Miatas had sealed batteries, and batteries run on sulfuric acid.

Ziploc
Sep 19, 2006
MX-5

Baby Hitler posted:

I thought Miatas had sealed batteries, and batteries run on sulfuric acid.

It's not the original battery.

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

I've noticed recently (since it's slowly becoming top-down weather) that when I go over bumps or cracks in the road, a quiet sort of metal-on-metal clank is coming from the front of the car, I think. It happens as the front wheels hit whatever jarring imperfection in the road.

I'm thinking/hoping it's just that something like a brake dust shield or similar is loose and knocking around. The car otherwise drives like it always has, no shimmying, no shaking, no weird handling characteristics.

I'm due for an oil/trans/diff fluid change, so I'll be lifting up the car soon and I'll try to find any play in any parts then. But does anyone have any guesses as to the most likely culprits might?




Frank Dillinger posted:

I'm still looking around for a miata, and have seen some really nice 10th anniversary editions. however, a lot of them have "style bar" rollover protectors. i seem to remember them being referred to as "rat-traps". is there any truth to this?

I mean, having a roll bar sounds like a really good idea, but I don't want to end up crushed between my car and the bar in the event of a rollover.

If you end up buying one with a style bar, just take it off and replace it with the factory seatbelt tower brace (which hopefully the seller has kept). I wouldn't want a fake rollbar on my car, either. The only downside is that some style bars require cutting part of the plastic around the seatbelt towers, so it may or may not bother you with the style bar removed.

Ziploc
Sep 19, 2006
MX-5

Guinness posted:

I've noticed recently (since it's slowly becoming top-down weather) that when I go over bumps or cracks in the road, a quiet sort of metal-on-metal clank is coming from the front of the car, I think. It happens as the front wheels hit whatever jarring imperfection in the road.

I'm thinking/hoping it's just that something like a brake dust shield or similar is loose and knocking around. The car otherwise drives like it always has, no shimmying, no shaking, no weird handling characteristics.

Check your brake pads. They are probably loose and rattling around a bit.

Guinness posted:

If you end up buying one with a style bar, just take it off and replace it with the factory seatbelt tower brace (which hopefully the seller has kept). I wouldn't want a fake rollbar on my car, either. The only downside is that some style bars require cutting part of the plastic around the seatbelt towers, so it may or may not bother you with the style bar removed.

10th anniversary does not equal M editon. NBs do not have seat belt tower bars. Some did have wind deflectors though.

Amelios
Oct 23, 2003

destructo posted:

You can get a new Hard Dog rollbar (at least in June, shipping is free at one vendor, can't remember offhand) for $400 shipped. I wouldn't not buy a car just because of a style bar.

Think you could dig up which vendor that is? I'm in the market for a Hard Dog bar...

edit: Appears to be custommx5.com : http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=285371

Amelios fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Jun 20, 2008

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

Ziploc posted:

Check your brake pads. They are probably loose and rattling around a bit.

Thanks, I'll be sure to check them. Do you mean that the brake pads are just loose in the caliper? Is it easy to tighten? I'm sure it'll be intuitive when I look, but just trying to know what to expect.

quote:

10th anniversary does not equal M editon. NBs do not have seat belt tower bars. Some did have wind deflectors though.

Ah, didn't realize NBs don't have the seatbelt tower brace. I've got an NA with one, so I just figured they continued on with it.

laymil
Sep 13, 2005

so it goes...

Elysium posted:

I hooked it up to a trickle charger at 2a, and went to check how it was doing after an hour and it was reading as full... obviously an hour shouldn't have done anything but I tried it out and the car still wouldn't start, rehooked it up to the charger and it's still reading full charge. hrm.
They usually take a day to fully charge on a trickle charger when they are discharged. If your trickle charger says it's full, it could be lying! Has anything changed? Do your lights now work on the battery?

Ziploc posted:

It's not the original battery.
As far as I know, an Optima Red Top should never need to have distilled water added.

Ziploc
Sep 19, 2006
MX-5

Guinness posted:

Thanks, I'll be sure to check them. Do you mean that the brake pads are just loose in the caliper? Is it easy to tighten? I'm sure it'll be intuitive when I look, but just trying to know what to expect.

I haven't bothered to check why mine rattle. Sometimes the springs just disappear or you forget to put them back in when you change the pads. Theres not really anything you can adjust if the springs are missing.

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Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

Ziploc posted:

I haven't bothered to check why mine rattle. Sometimes the springs just disappear or you forget to put them back in when you change the pads. Theres not really anything you can adjust if the springs are missing.

Can you replace the springs?

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