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Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Simkin posted:

I redline my engine to get everyone's attention, and then walk my bike home after a valve decides to make sweet, forbidden love to a piston.

This is why I dig modern electronics ... banging off of a rev-limiter is FUN.

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OrangeFurious
Oct 14, 2005

Ce n'est pas une St. Furious.

Krakkles posted:

This is why I dig modern electronics ... banging off of a rev-limiter is FUN.

I'm going to use the phrase "banging off a rev-limiter" in my next amorous encounter.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

I'm going to use the phrase "sweet, forbidden love" in my next school zone encounter.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Diagnose James May's '69 CB 250.

quote:

Has the bike ever started? Yes. Did it run properly? No. Did it: a) run perfectly for a bit and then cut out, b) run continuously until you tried to open the throttle, c) run flatulently on one cylinder at tickover even though the twist grip was against the stop. Answer: C. In which case, are there two sparks? Yes. Is the fuel reaching both carburettors? Yes. Were they painstakingly rebuilt on the kitchen table using the recommended jets, needles and float valves despite complaints from Woman that the smell of petrol vapour was corrupting the flavour of delicate Pak Choi? Yes.

Has the cylinder head ever been off? Yes. Did you check that everything worked and that the valves weren't sticking? Yes. More importantly, did you: a) buy a new gasket when reassembling, b) kid yourself that the old one was fine because you couldn't be bothered to wait for a new one to arrive in the post? Answer: A, unusually.

Have you checked the timing of both sets of ignition points? Yes. Did you: a) look at them and guess when they were open, b) put a piece of fag paper in the gap and turn the backplate until it dropped out, c) do it properly, with a light bulb, wires and clips? Again, remarkably, the answer is C.

Has a bloke called Colin been around boasting that he could sort this out in a few minutes? Yes. Was it even worse when he left? Yes. Have you seen him since? No. Have you seen your 10mm spanner since? No.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/columnists/jamesmay/4324384/Help-fix-my-Honda-please.html


If you get it right you will win his friendship and you get to go for put-put rides with open face helmets and goggles, then finally a nice pint in his local where you chat about variable melocities, the decline of whitworth threads and smoking pipes. I think the comment on timing chain is on to something.

TapTheForwardAssist
Apr 9, 2007

Pretty Little Lyres
Real noob question: took the bike out today, and in the first half-mile I ran across two other riders, both of whom, as they approached me, angled out their left arms and pointed their index finger at the ground.

I pulled my bike over and checked it for any visible problems, wondering if it was some signal for "dude, you're bike's hosed up." But I couldn't see any notable problem; no hanging cables, kickstand not down, etc.

The bike did feel a little wobbly that time out though, compared to yesterday, so I'll check the tires and see if they're low or whatnot.

What does that signal mean? How can they visually tell that I need to fix something?

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
They're waving :)

That generally is translated as "keep the rubber side down".

Gnaghi
Jan 25, 2008

Is this a good first bike?
Wow that seems kinda odd and I can see how it can be pretty confusing or throw people off. If someone ever does that to me I'm going to respond with a quacking duck hand figure.

TapTheForwardAssist
Apr 9, 2007

Pretty Little Lyres

Gnaghi posted:

Wow that seems kinda odd and I can see how it can be pretty confusing or throw people off. If someone ever does that to me I'm going to respond with a quacking duck hand figure.

Again, I'm pretty noob, but I don't think I've seen that in my 3 months of riding. I've just had folks lift their hands off the bars and give a little wave.

Having two people, one helmetless dude on a cruiser (very common in Austin) and one guy in proper gear on a crotchrocket, do the exact same thing two blocks apart from each other made me wonder why it was happening all of a sudden.

Oh well, it gave me a good reminder to do a thorough once-over of my bike when I get on it.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
yeah i've never seen a finger at the ground like that.

George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




Round here they tend to wave by angling down (I, meanwhile, wave like a loving goober). I think it's the way dudes wave to each other to try to save face for waving being gay or something.

I imagine 100 years in the future, everything but eating steak, killing a man, or loving two women at once will be considered gay by macho guys.

Deeters
Aug 21, 2007


Angling your hand or finger towards the ground is clearly more aerodynamic.

predictive
Jan 11, 2006

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I know most people do it the other way, but after many years of riding on the street, a buddy finally convinced me to give riding dirt a shot this morning. Holy poo poo is dirt physically demanding compared to street riding.

My friend lent me his KTM 525-EXC (I know jack about dirt bikes, but I felt too short for the bike and he says he put the short seat on it) and some gear, and led the way around a several mile trail he maintains behind his house for a few hours.

The dirt track itself was about a foot wide, and several portions had trees within a foot of the handlebars on each side, but I managed to avoid hitting any of those. It was in the 90 and 180 degree turns in loose dirt that I had the most trouble; all that street muscle memory about shifting weight in the turn was exactly wrong, and I kept lowsiding around the tight corners. After my fifth crash, I did eventually figure out how to move the bike out from under me in turns, but my pansy-boy weakling arms were getting tired after a few hours' practice so I called it a day.

On the positive side, going over logs and through streams ending up being way easier than I expected. Just this few hours really showed me how riding dirt forces you to improve quick decision making skills, especially focusing on your sight lines and avoiding target fixation. After all my low speed practice on asphalt, I was surprised and a little shamed at how poor my throttle control (and general bike control) was, so I'm not sure if I liked the experience well enough to buy a proper dirt bike. Maybe I'll try again next weekend and see how it feels a second time around.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

RacerHD12 posted:

Angling your hand or finger towards the ground is clearly more aerodynamic.

You joke but I started waving like that myself because its much easier on a bike without a windshield or fairing.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
I see it fairly often just south of Dallas. I'd call it a 25-75 split. Mostly from cruisers though.

redscare
Aug 14, 2003

Gnaghi posted:

Wow that seems kinda odd and I can see how it can be pretty confusing or throw people off. If someone ever does that to me I'm going to respond with a quacking duck hand figure.

Its standard practice around here

Except for fat fuckers on Gold Wings. gently caress those guys.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Was dropping off a patient and ran into a guy with his leg all bandaged up and some riding gear on the seat. Asked him if he dumped his bike.


Said he was on a group ride in the evening on some harleys. They were lane splitting in the carpool and the guy in front of him kicked up a rock (or something) and the thing freaking flew up and hit just below his knee and broke his leg. Said blood was coming out of his boots. I had to ask a couple times for clarification and even then I couldn't picture it.


Man, talk about crappy. His bike is ok though.

Infinotize
Sep 5, 2003

I do the :airquote:point at the ground:airquote: wave mainly because on my bike it's easier to extend my forearm from the elbow and then retract it rather than lift my arm/shoulder to actually wave. Everyone waves here, except the lame Tuff Bikah cookie cutter type harley jerks and people on scooters who usually look confused.

:airquote::airquote::airquote:

darknrgy
Jul 26, 2003

...wait come back
On highway 1 and round those parts you pass bikes every 30 seconds. My friends and I were getting bored so we all started funny waves - the best was when we were all doing the big wave - just imagine passing a group of four all waving like they are five year olds waving at their grandmother HI GRANDMA IM JUST GOING FOR A RIDE.

Normally it's upside down backwards peace sign.

predictive
Jan 11, 2006

For awesome, press 1.

darknrgy posted:

Normally it's upside down backwards peace sign.

In the UK that's like giving someone the finger -- I wonder if they wave the same way but for different reasons.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

I give a flat palm out, straight to the side. After a few greets the arm might sag down a little. If I encounter lots of bikes I might get lazy and just to a 45 degree wrist bend. Lazier still, I just raise four fingers from the handlebar. Even lazier still I just go limp, fall of the bike and tumble across the road in a friendly manner.

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


Two fingers out to the side. Easy, obvious.

Unless I'm on the DRZ, because for some reason I started noticing people around Washington on dual sports seem to have standardized on palm flat, facing down out to your side.

Theres nothing quite like getting the noob wave from someone, I think that's just awesome.

Zool
Mar 21, 2005

The motard rap
for all my riders
at the track
Dirt hardpacked
corner workers better
step back
I raise my right hand and wave frantically while being thrown forward into the tank.

Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"
^^ A tankslapper could be considered a form of waving, no? :v:

I do like the look of confusion that I get from the scooter/'ped brigade when I wave at them - I usually only wave at them during inclement weather/the winter. I love riding by groups of new riders being escorted (MSF road course or equivalent) and giving the whole group a huge wave - usually only returned by a look of consternation by the supervising rider. :)

Dubs
Mar 6, 2007

Stroll Own Zone.
Disregard Stroll outside zone.

Zool posted:

I raise my right hand and wave frantically while being thrown forward into the tank.

This is standard fare for us 'drive on the left' country's. I've seen 3-4 bikes go down from waving, The government is currently running an anti-wave campaign to stop all the deaths.

"No wave's, Lives saved"

snail
Sep 25, 2008

CHEESE!

Dubs posted:

This is standard fare for us 'drive on the left' country's. I've seen 3-4 bikes go down from waving, The government is currently running an anti-wave campaign to stop all the deaths.

Almost covered my desk in coffee reading that.

At least in Australia (one of them drive on the left countries), it's the nod. On the twisty bits through the mountains it can still be done, although no one has ever explained the etiquette of what happens when two large groups ride past each other.

I've seen it happen while sitting eating a bacon and egg sandwich at a roadstop, 30 riders each direction, and all 30 nodding at the other 30 as if it's a convoy of bobbleheads.

Hunter2 Thompson
Feb 3, 2005

Ramrod XTreme

darknrgy posted:

On highway 1 and round those parts you pass bikes every 30 seconds. My friends and I were getting bored so we all started funny waves - the best was when we were all doing the big wave - just imagine passing a group of four all waving like they are five year olds waving at their grandmother HI GRANDMA IM JUST GOING FOR A RIDE.

Normally it's upside down backwards peace sign.

That's funny, on my road trip to SLO from Santa Cruz I was doing the exact same thing after passing the hundred billionth rider. I think the best one was when I actually got onto a 4-lane part of hwy. 1; I was in the right lane and a guy riding a GS was travelling the opposite direction on a frontage road on the other side of the freeway. Even though we were four lanes and probably 1/8th of a mile apart we exchanged the hugest goofiest waves possible.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

meatpotato posted:

That's funny, on my road trip to SLO from Santa Cruz I was doing the exact same thing after passing the hundred billionth rider. I think the best one was when I actually got onto a 4-lane part of hwy. 1; I was in the right lane and a guy riding a GS was travelling the opposite direction on a frontage road on the other side of the freeway. Even though we were four lanes and probably 1/8th of a mile apart we exchanged the hugest goofiest waves possible.

:3:

I need to get the throttle lock on my streetbike so I can wave with my left hand. More poo poo to buy. :sigh:

My other favorite thing is waving when I've got a knee on the ground either at a trackday (to the camera) or on the twisties. You get some serious :psyduck: from people with that one.

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

Z3n posted:

:3:

I need to get the throttle lock on my streetbike so I can wave with my left hand. More poo poo to buy. :sigh:

Just drop the bike into neutral real quick. Then you can do the awesome double handed wave to really confuse people.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

pr0zac posted:

Just drop the bike into neutral real quick. Then you can do the awesome double handed wave to really confuse people.

Depends on how many neutrals your bike has. Mine only has the consistant one between 1/2, at the moment, and I'd like to keep it that way.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Does anyone wave when cars let you pass? It hasn't happened that many times, but when I've been on great roads, having a good time and a car lets me pass I give them a big wave. It kind of has to be big since my left hand is busy and my right hand is obscured when I'm ahead.

"Oh god a biker, he's going to kill us, let him pass! Oh poo poo he just made a nazi salute, I TOLD you those guys are evil!"

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


I went to the London motorcycle show yesterday in search of a Schuberth S1. I found it a bit disappointing overall. I did find a vendor selling S1's and was able to determine I need an S1 Pro in large, but they didn't have any in the colours I wanted. At least they'll give me the show price (which was pretty drat good) on a new one from their shop when I call them. Not much interesting on display, or maybe I just wasn't in the mood? Anyway I got some pictures that I'll throw in the picture thread later. I thought there would be a lot more manufacturers represented, but aside from small displays from the big 4, Harley/Buell, BMW, and Ducati, Victory and Bimota was as exotic as it got. Credit Crunch I suppose.

On the subject of waves, I usually lift 2 fingers off the left bar and nod, although now I ride on the wrong side of the road I guess I should lift 2 off the right bar?

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Ola posted:

Does anyone wave when cars let you pass? It hasn't happened that many times, but when I've been on great roads, having a good time and a car lets me pass I give them a big wave. It kind of has to be big since my left hand is busy and my right hand is obscured when I'm ahead.

"Oh god a biker, he's going to kill us, let him pass! Oh poo poo he just made a nazi salute, I TOLD you those guys are evil!"

I do, every time. Spreading a little goodwill never hurt anyone.

redscare
Aug 14, 2003

Z3n posted:

Depends on how many neutrals your bike has. Mine only has the consistant one between 1/2, at the moment, and I'd like to keep it that way.

Aw cmon, you don't need third or fifth.

echomadman
Aug 24, 2004

Nap Ghost

Ola posted:

Does anyone wave when cars let you pass? It hasn't happened that many times, but when I've been on great roads, having a good time and a car lets me pass I give them a big wave. It kind of has to be big since my left hand is busy and my right hand is obscured when I'm ahead.

i give a thumbs up to people that let me by but we drive on the left so its easy to pop my left hand out, thumbs up then back on the bars. for other bikers its the nod usually.

echomadman fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Feb 2, 2009

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Ola posted:

Does anyone wave when cars let you pass? It hasn't happened that many times, but when I've been on great roads, having a good time and a car lets me pass I give them a big wave. It kind of has to be big since my left hand is busy and my right hand is obscured when I'm ahead.

"Oh god a biker, he's going to kill us, let him pass! Oh poo poo he just made a nazi salute, I TOLD you those guys are evil!"

I do, though I've taken to doing the English "thank you" (flashing blinker left right left) when I'm actually doing something fun - easier to do without taking a hand off the bars.

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

Z3n posted:

Depends on how many neutrals your bike has. Mine only has the consistant one between 1/2, at the moment, and I'd like to keep it that way.

Wait you mean everyone's bike doesn't have that second neutral between 3rd and 4th? Maybe I should get that looked at.

Orange Someone
Aug 20, 2007
Hmmm

Krakkles posted:

I do, though I've taken to doing the English "thank you" (flashing blinker left right left) when I'm actually doing something fun - easier to do without taking a hand off the bars.

That's the english way? First I've heard of it. Or is that like how you crazy people call spin on a pool ball "English"?

I just nod my head at bikers, or if I'm lazy, a slight sideways inclination instead.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Orange Someone posted:

That's the english way? First I've heard of it. Or is that like how you crazy people call spin on a pool ball "English"?

I just nod my head at bikers, or if I'm lazy, a slight sideways inclination instead.

Truth be told, it's something I read here, though I'll be damned if I remember in what context. I guess it's not! :lol:

I figure either way it's pretty clear I'm acknowledging the person's action, though.

Fantastipotamus
Nov 19, 2002

Nothing's wrong. Nothing is wrong. Everything is on track.
The Harley guys around here do the 'point at the ground' thing. Personally, since they're wearing only dark glasses and are therefore the epitome of cool, I think they must assume it to be the natural progression of the wave to the next level of cool.

I do the "peace sign" with palm facing into the wind, unless I'm late to the wave-party, in which case you'll just get the four-fingers up off the handlebars, because I don't want to make any jerky, quick movements.

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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
i put my palm out so i can high five them as they go past hell yeah

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