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Honest Thief posted:Maybe I'm just crazy, but is Siegfried human? There's something about his eyes that freak me out, am I supposed to have this reaction or it's just some animation quirk that irked me wrong? Edit: Well gently caress, I should learn to read. pyo fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jan 14, 2009 |
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Hildgrim posted:Cyborg eyes are quite freaky, yes. I think you're thinking of Oberstein.
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aparmenideanmonad posted:Just don't tell people that everything you learned about classical music was from anime. This is pretty much me, between this show & Nodame Cantabile.
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This thread is now officially endorsed by the Whizzards. Piss out. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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bondster posted:Finally decided to continue watching the series after putting it off. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, I accidently moused over the spoilers  Just finished Episode 16, and it looks like shits about to hit the fan - A 5-year old Kaiser - Lohengramm predicts a civil war - Yang has a posse now - A crazy cult Although I'm going through it slowly, I'm loving this series. Didn't expect to be watching it while ill though. a glitch fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jan 16, 2009 |
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Eggn0g posted:Just finished Episode 16, and it looks like shits about to hit the fan
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I'm hitting on episode 90 and the fan broke a long time ago. The poo poo is now on the floor and on the walls. This series is simply amazing.
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Robot Bastard posted:You have no idea. By the end of this series, the fan is no longer even able to turn, due to the amount of poo poo that has hit it. Just watched episode 21 and drat, that was crazy. Still loving this series, but one thing bugs me - why where the soldiers using axes in episode 20? That seemed... strange. I know the empire's supposed to be old-fashioned, but that seemed a bit stupid to me.
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If I were to venture a guess, it's that by the time of LOGH spacesuits are so sturdy that lasers (and guns?) aren't very effective against them. So an axe might make for the best close quarter weapon.
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Nate RFB posted:If I were to venture a guess, it's that by the time of LOGH spacesuits are so sturdy that lasers (and guns?) aren't very effective against them. So an axe might make for the best close quarter weapon. Not just are the combat armors generally laser/ bullet proof (though the visors have been pierced, and there are weak points), it's shown that a lot of the reason they aren't used is because troops tend to carry Zephyr-particle gas canisters with them, as gas which explodes VERY VIOLENTLY in the presence of laser fire.
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Jan 17, 2009 22:59
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Though honestly - loving crossbows? Well, I suppose the armor is really more laserproofing than anything else.
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KlavoHunter posted:Though honestly - loving crossbows? Well, they're not going to set off the Zephyr particles like gun/ laser fire would, so...
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Zorak posted:Well, they're not going to set off the Zephyr particles like gun/ laser fire would, so... Wait, just plain slug-firing guns would set off the Zephyr Particles? But I suppose a crossbow bolt would be pretty effective against relatively light Panzergrenadier-style armor.
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It might be a speed thing; like, anything moving fast enough to penetrate heavy armor would set off the Zephyr particles, and of course any directed-energy weapon would do it. spoilers for this discussion: Mashengo's death should tell you how important it is to have Zephyr particles spread around; otherwise they just break out the lasers and waste your rear end no matter how much armor you've got. Of course, it's really more like "the author really liked the idea of dudes fighting with axes, so he made up an extremely vague justification for why this was the case." See also Dune, where we have a universe with lasers and artillery and nuclear bombs and yet everyone fights with knives. And the real argument in favor of axes and armor isn't verbal at all. It's the fact that without axes, we would not have THIS: The Therminador posted:
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Seriously, would the Rosenritter be half as hard if they just shot dudes? The only way Schenkopp with a gun would work if he merely pistol whipped you to death with it.
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Robot Bastard posted:It might be a speed thing; like, anything moving fast enough to penetrate heavy armor would set off the Zephyr particles, and of course any directed-energy weapon would do it. Mashengo's death always kind of pissed me off because the heavy armor earlier almost always seemed to stop laser rounds unless you got shot in the face.
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The Gaidens aren't really being seeded anymore, but they're all up on Megaupload.
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Jan 28, 2009 22:58
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I feel like I'm doing my part because I've gotten about 5 people to watch this series.
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Honest Ray posted:I feel like I'm doing my part because I've gotten about 5 people to watch this series. This series is best enjoyed with a friend and some 
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Apparently there's two new LOGH OSTs out? http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=48593 http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=48592
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Zorak posted:Apparently there's two new LOGH OSTs out? These are the same Empire and Free Planets box sets that have been out for some time. What's new about these is the file names are in English and not Engrish, which may be worth an upgrade.
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Well thanks to this thread i just did a marathon of the first 16 episodes of this absolutely fantastic show. I really enjoyed the episodes that focused on Lohengramms past and the empire politics. Awesome battles sofar, but i feel i didn't "get" the third battle (Maybe a bit too much going on at the same time.) Very impressed that it manages to avoid almost everything i hate about anime like cutesy poo poo, kids and fan service. A lot of the characters almost manage to feel like real people( this is loving rare in anime.) Also liking the classical soundtrack and the ending ( Ive heard that this changes to a less awesome one later on.) One minor complaint: How the gently caress does the incompetent Alliance military survive a 150 year war before Yang Wenli starts to unfuck things? I have only seen the first 16 episodes, so maybe there is an explanation later on.
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Slaapaav posted:One minor complaint: How the gently caress does the incompetent Alliance military survive a 150 year war before Yang Wenli starts to unfuck things? I have only seen the first 16 episodes, so maybe there is an explanation later on.
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Zorak posted:Apparently there's two new LOGH OSTs out? 
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Slaapaav posted:One minor complaint: How the gently caress does the incompetent Alliance military survive a 150 year war before Yang Wenli starts to unfuck things? I have only seen the first 16 episodes, so maybe there is an explanation later on. A bunch of bad politicians recently got into office, which is why things sort of turned out as they did. Besides, the war hasn't been exactly constantly going, it waned I'm sure for periods.
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Here is the LOGH Theme Collection: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=48797 First time I've seen that one in FLAC. This doesn't have all of the themes, and the OST box sets do. But only the TV edits, whereas this has full edits and instrumental versions as well. So it may interest some of you.
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I am watching this amazing show because of this thread. That said, the "tactics" are laughable but bless their little hearts for trying in an anime.
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Hygiene Hypothesis posted:I am watching this amazing show because of this thread. That said, the "tactics" are laughable but bless their little hearts for trying in an anime. The tactics aren't that crazy if you keep in mind that each fleet movement takes about an hour, and that often commands have to be "hand" delivered due to communication errors, and when there's ten thousand plus ships involved, it sort of restricts tactics in space. The reason Yang is able to do so good later on is because he had some of the best Fleet officers
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What is a "corridor" in space? What are the walls? I've been surprised to see no people in space suits outside of ships at all, and I'm on about ep 90. But yes, amazing series.
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Heran Bago posted:What is a "corridor" in space? What are the walls? Basically, apparently in LoGH the two halves of the galaxy (eg, two regions of the main disk) make it so the only real way to go between the two is directly through (eg, going above the plane/ out and around the arms takes too long and thus would lead to complete supply line hell). The corridors are basically regions of the space which coincidentally lack any real stars, and they pretty much establish that they're surrounded by dangerous nebulae/ black holes and such.
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Yeah it's never really explained outright. I always assumed it was something like the hyperdrives only worked in lanes that followed gravitational paths between stars, and that's why there weren't many routes between the two inhabited spiral arms, and no way around/above. And if you leave those lanes you blow up for some reason. It's sort of like the hyperdrive in Star Wars, it's so old it's just in the background and no one really feels a need to talk about the principles much.
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Bitching about simplicity aside, I came for the tactically-focused, classically-scored giant space battles and stayed for the Machiavellian politics and Victorian costumes.
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Slaapaav posted:One minor complaint: How the gently caress does the incompetent Alliance military survive a 150 year war before Yang Wenli starts to unfuck things? I have only seen the first 16 episodes, so maybe there is an explanation later on.
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cooldude2.0 posted:Yang Wenli isn't the alliance's first brilliant commander, but mostly it's Job Trunhit's fault. In the empire, before Reinhard started cherry picking every talented officer without regard for noble heritage, you couldn't do poo poo in the military without a well established bloodline. In the alliance, there was an increasing trend of the officers who pandered to the politicians getting the big jobs. Job Trunhit/Lobos were the last and worst point in this trend, but it had been going for awhile. If you watch the first few arcs of Gaiden this noble-only rule in the empire military becomes pretty clear - the only reason Reinhard ever had a chance was because of the noble ties from his whored out sister. The only reason guys like Kircheis and Mittermeyer ever had a chance was because of Reinhard. Likewise, Yang, as great as he is, would never have risen to the position that he did without Reinhard. His uniqueness as the only alliance commander capable of matching Reinhard wasn't worth much before Reinhard appeared on the scene. In all likelihood Yang would have retired before ever joining the admiralty. This is why, though Yang is pretty much one of the most likable and interesting protagonists around, the story is really Reinhard's story. It begins with his rise to power and ends once the important conflicts surrounding this rise are played out.
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It should be noted that every strategy employed by Yang Wenli against Reinhard ultimately all operate on the same goal - the neutralization of Reinhard von Lohengramm. This is of course very much in-character for Yang (and ironically, for Oberstein, too) - Yang would like to keep battlefield casualties to a minimum, and the quickest way to end a battle (Or, indeed, a war) would be by removing the man at the top. In this respect, Reinhard's authoritarian Empire is far more vulnerable to this tactic, since the Empire ultimately relies on his supreme competence, though Reinhard acknowledges this and guides policies to counteract this. Still, the very same tactic is nowhere near as applicable to the democratic Alliance, and this is demonstrated by the fact that the Iserlohn Fleet did not fall apart completely after Yang's death, and that any competent man could succeed him - in this case, Julian Minci - and they STILL went on to win one last battle. We see this at the 4th Tiamat Battle, where Yang holds Reinhard's flagship hostage with the Ulysses at point-blank range, so that the beaten Alliance fleet can withdraw in peace. At the Battle of Vermillion, Yang nearly causes the complete collapse of the Imperial invasion by being one order to open fire away from killing Reinhard.. During the Battle of the Corridor, Yang attempts this yet again, but Reinhard manages to fend off the assault intended to threaten his flagship. Even after Yang's death, Julian manages to use essentially the same tactic all over again, by boarding the Brunhild during the final battle of the series
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After over a month of waiting, Central Anime finally brings us more LoGH: Spiral Labyrinth 09 xvid | Spiral Labyrinth 09 h264 Spiral Labyrinth 10 xvid | Spiral Labyrinth 10 h264
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KlavoHunter posted:It should be noted that every strategy employed by Yang Wenli against Reinhard ultimately all operate on the same goal - the neutralization of Reinhard von Lohengramm. This is of course very much in-character for Yang (and ironically, for Oberstein, too) - Yang would like to keep battlefield casualties to a minimum, and the quickest way to end a battle (Or, indeed, a war) would be by removing the man at the top. In this respect, Reinhard's authoritarian Empire is far more vulnerable to this tactic, since the Empire ultimately relies on his supreme competence, though Reinhard acknowledges this and guides policies to counteract this. Still, the very same tactic is nowhere near as applicable to the democratic Alliance, and this is demonstrated by the fact that the Iserlohn Fleet did not fall apart completely after Yang's death, and that any competent man could succeed him - in this case, Julian Minci - and they STILL went on to win one last battle. The last battle of the series, Reinhard let Julian get to him. Muller and Mittermeyer could have gunned his rear end down.
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Honest Ray posted:The last battle of the series, Reinhard let Julian get to him. Muller and Mittermeyer could have gunned his rear end down. Quit teasing me, I wanted to see that happen, too. :P
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edit: erk
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Just finished this and jesus- I'm not sure if I'm going to be totally satisfied by a show again. Pretty sad that I don't get to watch the zany adventures of Felix and Alec, but hey! There's still 48something episodes and two movies of prequels, right? I've also convinced two people to watch it this weekend, almost purely based on how badass the Rosenritter are.
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