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Kaiju
Mar 19, 2003

HEINEKEN!?! FUCK THAT SHIT! PABST BLUE RIBBON!!
Box office estimates are starting to come in. Looks like Friday's weekend total is going to be in the neighborhood of $60m.

That's a lot of loving money, particularly for a horror movie.

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Matlock
Sep 12, 2004

Childs Play Charity 2011 Total: $1755
edit: $42m this weekend, should pull down $90 lifetime or so. Enough to be first in the Friday franchise, but I really doubt it's going over $105 to beat Scream.

Matlock fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Feb 15, 2009

evilontwolegs
Jul 20, 2002

Saw the movie Friday, and while I'm sure I'll end up giving it a lengthy write-up at my site later, my short opinion is Friday the 13th (2009) forcibly removed my socks.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I have a hard time seeing how someone who grew up loving Jason Voorhees could be disappointed in this film -- it was a 97 minute love-letter to the slasher genre. It was a great big party with an open bar and no cover thrown in Jason's honor, and every fan of the series was invited. Isn't what everyone's been asking for over the last 20 years (at least since part 7) been Jason, scary again, without the gimmicks (e.g., in New York, in space, as a body-jumping slug, vs. Freddy, etc.), back at Crystal Lake carving up horny teenagers? Well, that's what I saw... and I was fuckin' overjoyed and incredibly appreciative as a fan.


Also... I took a picture at the theater.

blk-majik
Aug 16, 2007
i grew up in the town where My Bloody Valentine was shot. It's the same town where The Mothman Prophecies (lovely Richard Gere thriller from 2002) was filmed. I didn't see it yet, because I'm pretty sure I'll just focus out on pointing out the background extras who I know =/ Anyway, I should probably get on that while its still in theaters so I get the 3d experience

I liked the new Friday the 13th! But I'm biased as hell. I was born on Friday the 13th the same year that part 2 came out (first one with Jason)... AND my name is Jason. Yea, my parents are sick fucks. I really didn't like how a few of the kills were a bit... 'technologically advanced'. I don't want to spoil anything, so I'll just say thatJason should stick to stabbing people with random crap at close range. It also seemed to spend a bit too much time on 'character development', if you can even call it that. Yea, I know we're supposed to not care about the people who die, and be rooting for the one's that live, but come on.... the suspense of guessing who's supposed to be just a subtle rear end in a top hat and who's intended to live is half the fun :) The throwbacks to using some of the scenes from the original 3 movies was great!

Btw, thumbs up to Jason goes to Manhattan. But Hell and X were big mistakes =/

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

I watched that His Name Was Jason documentary earlier today and it looks like I'll have to go back and watch all of the past movies. So far I've only seen Part 1, Freddy VS Jason, and the remake, but Part 7, Jason Takes Manhattan, and Jason X in particular all look pretty interesting and like they'd be worth a watch.

pud
Jul 9, 2001

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

I watched that His Name Was Jason documentary earlier today and it looks like I'll have to go back and watch all of the past movies. So far I've only seen Part 1, Freddy VS Jason, and the remake, but Part 7, Jason Takes Manhattan, and Jason X in particular all look pretty interesting and like they'd be worth a watch.

Manhattan is the worst of the series by far, but it's worth watching (without a rental fee, preferably) for one of the kills (you'll know it when you see it) and for having the stupidest loving ending possible. You really should try to see VI, it's the most fun of the movies and hits just the right balance between decent kill scenes and humor. It's not a Shaun of the Dead style satire, but it gives winks and nods without being overly cheesy about doing so.

PsychoGoatee
Feb 23, 2005

by Fistgrrl

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

I watched that His Name Was Jason documentary earlier today and it looks like I'll have to go back and watch all of the past movies. So far I've only seen Part 1, Freddy VS Jason, and the remake, but Part 7, Jason Takes Manhattan, and Jason X in particular all look pretty interesting and like they'd be worth a watch.

Part 4: The Final Chapter is the best one, easily the best with the original series formula. Part 6: Jason Lives is also drat good, and hell Part 2 is very cool also. Tommy Jarvis, Jason's nemesis, is featured prominently in 4 and 6.

Jason X is pretty much just Jason killing people in funny ways in a tongue-in-cheek movie, which is done way better in 6: Jason Lives.

Plus part 4 has both Crispin Glover and Corey Feldman, so you know its the best. :c00l:

Muley
Apr 20, 2008

by Tiny Fistpump

cool kids inc. posted:

Why the HELL would you take a child to see something this nasty and gory is beyond me. How irresponsible can you get??

if it makes you feel any better, after the lights came up i had a peek at the family: mom and dad were goth to the max, and little man was dressed in black, wearing a 'HIM' t-shirt, chains, combat boots and blue streaks in his hair. normally that wouldn't matter, except that he just sat through a pretty vicious movie that i didn't hear his parents console him through or remove him from. the kid's gonna be a gently caress-up anyway so maybe he'll do his damage as a juvenile and spare society a proper adult killing spree.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

PsychoGoatee posted:

Part 4: The Final Chapter is the best one, easily the best with the original series formula. Part 6: Jason Lives is also drat good, and hell Part 2 is very cool also. Tommy Jarvis, Jason's nemesis, is featured prominently in 4 and 6.

Jason X is pretty much just Jason killing people in funny ways in a tongue-in-cheek movie, which is done way better in 6: Jason Lives.

Plus part 4 has both Crispin Glover and Corey Feldman, so you know its the best. :c00l:

There were a bunch of numbers to keep track of, so I'm not sure if I'm correct on this or not, but isn't 6 the one where it's not Jason at all but an impersonator? That doesn't sound too cool.

And X just sounds awesome to me because it's Jason 400 years in the future killing dudes in space. That just blows my mind on so many levels.

PsychoGoatee
Feb 23, 2005

by Fistgrrl

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

There were a bunch of numbers to keep track of, so I'm not sure if I'm correct on this or not, but isn't 6 the one where it's not Jason at all but an impersonator? That doesn't sound too cool.

Part V: A New Beginning is the one with an impostor, thats one you can skip. Part 6: Jason Lives is the return of good ol' Jason, after his last appearance in Part 4: The Final Chapter. :3:

Magic Hate Ball
May 6, 2007

ha ha ha!
you've already paid for this

Muley posted:

but the little freakin' five year old behind me was petrified and his fear was actually a little sickening. made me feel like i was watching actual deaths.

That's actually kind of disturbing; as far as the five-year-old knows, he actually is watching people get ripped to shreds.

try the new taco place
Jan 4, 2004

hey mister... can u play drums while I sing and play plastic guitar???

PsychoGoatee posted:

Part V: A New Beginning is the one with an impostor, thats one you can skip.

It ain't THAT bad, it has some cool kills, and at least has a LOT of them, and not much lovely plot like 7 and Manhattan(8)

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

PsychoGoatee posted:

Part V: A New Beginning is the one with an impostor, thats one you can skip. Part 6: Jason Lives is the return of good ol' Jason, after his last appearance in Part 4: The Final Chapter. :3:

Oh, alright :) I'll check it out. Thanks!

PsychoGoatee
Feb 23, 2005

by Fistgrrl

Pet Rock Band posted:

It ain't THAT bad, it has some cool kills, and at least has a LOT of them, and not much lovely plot like 7 and Manhattan(8)

I enjoy Part V, I'm just saying its one that could be skippable, if you don't plan on watching them all. I do rank it lower than others though, plus the lack of the real Jason makes it feel less essential. And it does have one of the hottest girls in the series, Debi Sue Voorhees. The fact that her real last name is Vorhees is great too.

lizardman
Jun 30, 2007

by R. Guyovich
Oh, I'm afraid this one didn't work for me at all.

I felt there were two ways you could handle a Friday remake: to Casino Royale/The Dark Knight it and try to transcend the material or to all-out homage the originals. This felt like they tried to have it both ways (I suspect the director wanted to do the former and the screenwriters wanted to do the latter) and to me this is a movie with a crippling identity crisis.

Add to that my personal little nitpicks: I don't think the ultra-slick look suits this movie (especially since it's a near direct lift from TCM 03 - and it worked better there since it's a more earnest movie than this one); I didn't find Jason's appearance very scary; the final chase felt weak to me (and while not as bad as some other movies, the camera still shook around too much for my tastes); and the scares were telegraphed via satellite and always on the exact beat expected (and personally I dislike it when the end credits roll precisely after a jump scare). I'll also admit it bugged me that the main plot had absolutely nothing to do with summer camp, but again that's a personal little nitpick.

Props to Nana Visitor though, for making a great Mrs. Voorhees.

PsychoGoatee
Feb 23, 2005

by Fistgrrl

lizardman posted:

(and personally I dislike it when the end credits roll precisely after a jump scare).

Really, why? That's my favorite kind of ending for a horror movie. A Nightmare On Elm Street, several of Friday the 13th movie, etc, it leaves you with that sense of menace.

It usually feels anticlimactic and weak for a horror movie to have a happy epilogue, although it can work from time to time.

lizardman
Jun 30, 2007

by R. Guyovich
^^^ I don't mind a jump scare at the end as long as it's not the very last thing that happens. The first Friday has the infamous Jason-pops-outta-the-lake shock, but there's still a little bit of movie left afterward.

To me it just seems kind of cheap when it's literally *BOO!*, *roll credits*

PsychoGoatee
Feb 23, 2005

by Fistgrrl

lizardman posted:

To me it just seems kind of cheap when it's literally *BOO!*, *roll credits*

I guess it depends on who you're rooting for, and how you're watching the movie. For me, I'm all about Jason, and I'd feel like Christmas was over if the film ended on a happy note for the teens, with Jason defeated.

For me, it ending on Jason smashing through the dock was a standing ovation kind of moment. Literally the greatest moment in cinema so far in 2009. :3:

Veg
Oct 13, 2008

:smug::smug::xd:

PsychoGoatee posted:

I guess it depends on who you're rooting for, and how you're watching the movie. For me, I'm all about Jason, and I'd feel like Christmas was over if the film ended on a happy note for the teens, with Jason defeated.

For me, it ending on Jason smashing through the dock was a standing ovation kind of moment. Literally the greatest moment in cinema so far in 2009. :3:

That was my biggest scare in the movie,

I had turned sideways while they were talking and I was only kind of paying attention then BAM! I jumped like gently caress.

WescottF1
Oct 21, 2000
Forums Veteran

PsychoGoatee posted:

And I just watched the His Name Was Jason documentary, quite fun. One thing I found interesting is how most of the girls from those movies are still hot. Jensen Daggett from Manhattan is especially hot still. :3:

Hell yeah she is. NICE hooters. Lauren-Marie Taylor and Debisue Voorhees are also still quite fetching.

The twins from Final Chapter didn't age so well though.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

pud posted:

Manhattan is the worst of the series by far

No way is it worse than 5, 9, or X. If someone was coming blind in the series, they'd DEFINITELY enjoy Manhattan more than 5, 9, or X, probably 3. It's probably the best shot, is paced well, and is legitimately funny in spots. The problems with 8 were Jason literally teleporting everywhere (which new people won't care about), it being advertised as him in New York as opposed to him on a ship, and that many of the kills aren't as gory as previous entries. Oh, and the weird ending. But without the prior history with the series, much of that wouldnt' really matter. it having a "plot" actually serves in its favor, it's just that by that time, people who were already fans didn't care about plot (and it was essentially a mix of the plots of 3 and 7).

You may like it the least, but it's not the worst movie in the bunch.

Darko fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Feb 16, 2009

Slasherfan
Dec 2, 2003
IS IT WRONG THAT I ONCE WROTE A HORROR STORY ABOUT THE BUDDIES? YOU KNOW, THE TALKING PUPPIES?
Tobe honest in my opinion 8 is the worst of the bunch, I find it kind of dull and the teleporting pissed me right the hell off this time around.
Back to the new one, anyone else laugh their rear end off when Trent screamed like a bitch?

WescottF1
Oct 21, 2000
Forums Veteran

Slasherfan posted:

Back to the new one, anyone else laugh their rear end off when Trent screamed like a bitch?

Heh - everyone in the theater I was in did.

I just heard on the radio that F13 pulled in $42.2 million this weekend.

a_gelatinous_cube
Feb 13, 2005

I couldn't stop laughing for 2 or 3 minutes after that scream. It was great.

WescottF1
Oct 21, 2000
Forums Veteran
I thought it was hilarious - especially since I've never met a Trent that wasn't a total oval office like that guy.

The Remote Viewer
Jul 9, 2001
For the record, Jason doesn't stay out of the water in the originals. He attacked Tommy Jarvis in the canoe in 6 and think there were a few water kills in others.

Anyway, loved the reboot. It had pretty much everything a F13 film needs...the only element from the first 4 I really missed was the lack of a crazy old bum telling everyone they were going to die.

Tons of fanservice in this one. I spotted a number of things that were direct throwbacks to scenes from 1-4. Clay is a throwback to the bounty hunter character from 4 whose sister was killed by Jason.

And young Jason WAS in the movie...in the first five minutes.

TheHoosier
Dec 30, 2004

The fuck, Graham?!

Man, that goalie was pissed off about SOMETHIN! :v:

Absolutely LOVED the reboot. As a huge F13 fan (including FvJ and... sadly... even Jason X had its moments), this was everything I wanted it to be. The prick teenagers died horrible deaths, the kills were entertaining and varied, and I spotted a number of throwbacks to 1-4 that made me smile.

The axe throw, the arrow kill, the foreboding old person that TRIES TO WARN THEM YOUNGSTERS, and the shrine.

The reboot is easily one of the best F13 films made, if not (arguably) THE best. I know some people don't care for it but it entertained the hell out of me and made me jump a few times.

Now waiting for the inevitable Nightmare on Elm Street remake..

BrandNew
May 16, 2007

Get me my BLUE WINDBREAKER!

TheHoosier posted:

Now waiting for the inevitable Nightmare on Elm Street remake..

Its already in production. A director was announced and they are casting. Aiming for early next year release i think.

qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.
Just got back from seeing this. Thought it was a pretty good remake of the Jason franchise, but the film literally gave me a headache. Why didn't they just call it Jump Scare: The Loud Noise Chronicles?

PsychoGoatee
Feb 23, 2005

by Fistgrrl

qbert posted:

Why didn't they just call it Jump Scare: The Loud Noise Chronicles?

The German director loves to use some intense techno music. :3:

The Monocle
Nov 7, 2006

How could I live any other way?
Seriously, the jump scares were a bit much, and the 1-2-3-BOOM rule was in full effect.

Overall, I really enjoyed it, thought it was a great homage to the original Jason films and I love that it's breathing fresh life into the series. Like a few other posters have said, it's nice to see Jason back at Crystal Lake hacking up teenagers without the gimmicks. I also liked the reinvention of Jason, I enjoyed him as a somewhat intelligent hunter/killer, and I really liked how brutal he was. Great to see him run too - I think a lot of people forget that he runs around a bit in the second movie.

I didn't see if someone already mentioned it, but I loved the Blue Velvet reference. I don't think anyone else in my theater caught it.

TheBigBudgetSequel
Nov 25, 2008

It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.
I really liked it. I don't tent to like Friday films (I'm a Freddy Fan) But this was really entertaining, and took the best aspects of the series and put them all together.

I saw the end (smashing through the Dock) coming a mile away, but it still gave me a bit of a jump. I wasn't fond of it (It seemed like unneeded set up for a sequel, which we know will get made) but I appriciated the reference to the end of the original film...so, i didn't hate it.

Otherwise, I thought it was a decent flick, and it had some great kills, and of course titties.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

So I watched The New Blood, Jason Takes Manhattan and Jason X tonight. New Blood and X were both loving awful, and Manhattan was pretty stupid too, except for a few awesome parts. I've still gotta watch Jason Goes To Hell, but from what one of my friends told me, it sounds pretty loving ridiculous and enjoyable.

PsychoGoatee
Feb 23, 2005

by Fistgrrl

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

So I watched The New Blood, Jason Takes Manhattan and Jason X tonight. New Blood and X were both loving awful, and Manhattan was pretty stupid too, except for a few awesome parts. I've still gotta watch Jason Goes To Hell, but from what one of my friends told me, it sounds pretty loving ridiculous and enjoyable.

Oh man, you've got to watch Part 4: The Final Chapter and Part 6: Jason Lives. Please, oh man, you'll thank me later. :c00lbert:

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

So I watched The New Blood, Jason Takes Manhattan and Jason X tonight. New Blood and X were both loving awful, and Manhattan was pretty stupid too, except for a few awesome parts. I've still gotta watch Jason Goes To Hell, but from what one of my friends told me, it sounds pretty loving ridiculous and enjoyable.

No, it's stupid and ridiculous and Jason isn't even in the movie for most of it, which takes away from it.

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006
Am I really the only one who loves Jason goes to hell?

I've seen these movies multiple times, after being introduced to the semi-retarded guy driving in circles on a motorcycle having his head cut off when I was 13 or 14 or so.

I've liked almost all of them (Jason X was a little much, but FvJ and the reboot make up for it)

That said,

I like the way they tackled Jason in this movie a lot more. A lot scarier.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice
I thought it was OK, if not a bit disappointing. I had two main problems with the film:

First of all, the shaky cam effects were too over the top. To be fair, shaky cam has been in most of the F13 series, starting with kill number one in the very first film. My problem with it in 2009 was that it shook so much that it was disorienting and you couldn't really see what was going on, which I thought was a cop out for a F13 film.

More importantly, I was disappointed by the whole Texas Chainsaw Massacre elements thrown into the film, with the old houses filled with weird stuff (again, yeah -- I know that Jason builds a weirdo shrine in Part II, but it didn't look like a reused TCM set), Jason trapping somebody in the basement and tying her to a chain, and even the Leatherface head tilts when he confronts her.

Now, Rob Zombie has a fair claim to having TCM on his mind while making a film. He is clearly obsessed with the films (especially Part II) but unlike Nispel, he hasn't actually properly remade it yet. I would have hoped that Nispel would have gotten it out of his system by now. Don't misunderstand me, I love the original TCM (and TCM2 -- and even Nispel's remake), but that doesn't mean that I want Jason Voorhees and Michael Myers to act like Leatherface and I don't go into every horror film hoping for a hideout that looks like Leatherface's hideout and weirdo hillbillies to be running around.

InfiniteZero fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Feb 17, 2009

Professor Funk
Aug 4, 2008

WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN
I thought Friday the 13th was pretty disappointing as a whole. I really liked how Jason was converted into more of a "realistic" killer, it definitely made him a bit more frightening. I liked that they kept some of the supernatural elements, though.

The first scene where he catches the guy in a bear trap, burns his girlfriend alive in a sleeping bag, and then ices the first guy from a full run was really great, and really established Jason as a pretty brutal, calculating, psychopath rather than a lumbering giant. It had me really excited. I also really loved the shot before he kills the girl under the dock, where she sees him just standing by the water. It was pretty creepy...I wish they'd done more of that.

Oh and the death by screwdriver was awesome. One of the best kills in the movie for sure.

Ok, now on to what I didn't like.

I hated the setting, more specifically, the house. There is something much less frightening about Jason stalking around someone's property and hiding behind shower curtains. Granted, he stalked around a camp in the earlier movies, but those settings felt at least a little bit isolated; it basically felt like the characters had nowhere to go. The house just wasn't a threatening environment, and made Crystal Lake as a whole seem a lot less sinister. Why is there a home that probably cost millions upon millions of dollars just sitting on/near a cursed camp ground where dozens and dozens of people have been murdered? Real estate agents must have had a hell of a time selling that house. Either that, or the people that shelled out millions to have it built must have been completely oblivious (but this is a horror movie, so I guess that's believable).

Jason murdering douchebag teenagers loses a lot of its charm when he's doing it in a lavish mansion. Putting Jason in a setting where there's some semblance of real society just doesn't work to me.

Add to that the lovely characters and the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre syndrome" that InfiniteZero mentioned, and you get a kinda disappointing reboot. Standard horror movie fare, but I guess I should have expected that.

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

Professor Funk posted:

I hated the setting, more specifically, the house. There is something much less frightening about Jason stalking around someone's property and hiding behind shower curtains. Granted, he stalked around a camp in the earlier movies, but those settings felt at least a little bit isolated; it basically felt like the characters had nowhere to go. The house just wasn't a threatening environment, and made Crystal Lake as a whole seem a lot less sinister. Why is there a home that probably cost millions upon millions of dollars just sitting on/near a cursed camp ground where dozens and dozens of people have been murdered? Real estate agents must have had a hell of a time selling that house. Either that, or the people that shelled out millions to have it built must have been completely oblivious (but this is a horror movie, so I guess that's believable).

Jason murdering douchebag teenagers loses a lot of its charm when he's doing it in a lavish mansion. Putting Jason in a setting where there's some semblance of real society just doesn't work to me.

Friday the 13th 4.

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Professor Funk
Aug 4, 2008

WE ALL KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

Darko posted:

Friday the 13th 4.

Yeah, but my point still stands, because it just so happens that Friday the 13th Part 4 was neither a good movie nor a scary one.

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