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Thought I'd pop in to say I got IXXI's Elect Darkness this week and I'm loving it. It's a bit more aggressive than their older stuff and I'd say the tracks are more consistantly good as well. Also got the new Ash Pool single Saturn's Slave in the post today - on a nice little blue 7". The second track has this awesome, out-of tune "boinging" effect on the guitars (whatever that's called) which I'm liking. I recommend anything by Ash Pool though, if you haven't checked them out before. Also, I reeeeally want to know: has anyone heard Hiems' Worship or Die? I like Cold Void Journey a lot and the one track from Worship or Die on their myspace sounds fantastic, but I have a sneaking suspision they've done a "Disiplin" and gone all mainstream/pop-y :/
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Bought a De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas reissue on vinyl today. There are very few moments where I like being in Germany and this is one of them.
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HorrorJunkie posted:They explain some of their thinking in this Invisible Oranges Interview which is a pretty good read. It also has a full song from their new album. Thanks for that, I would not likely have run into it otherwise. It also confirmed pretty much all I thought (and said in my previous post) of their tenets. Aaron Weaver posted:We're interested in deep ecology. I think that people for the past three, four hundred years in the Western world perceive the natural world just as a machine, as something that can be understood in scientific processes. You look at a forest not as a place of power or spiritual renewal or a place that has its own consciousness, but see it instead as a tree farm. Or you look at an animal [not] as a being that should be respected, but you see it as a protein that can be put into a factory to be caught into a machine. That attitude is the source of so much intense sorrow. I think that kills your soul inside. That's the sadness that we're expressing. fake edit: There is someone in the comments to that interview who aligns pretty much with the dogmatic black metal crowd that is anti-WITTR here. I'll happily let both sleeping dogs lie.
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Mar 15, 2009 01:59
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Any Gris fans should check out Austere, the Australian one. Withering Illusions And Desolation is nice and depressing.
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Mar 15, 2009 18:45
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Dyna Soar posted:The Amesoeurs full lenght is out and it's brilliant. I can hear a lot of The Cure in the guitar sound. I'm sure most of you will hate it though It is brilliant! Although there's hardly any black metal tunes on the record, the album is beautiful.
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Mar 16, 2009 10:24
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EvilMoJoJoJo posted:Any Gris fans should check out Austere, the Australian one. Withering Illusions And Desolation is nice and depressing. I have To Lay Like Old Ashes, and I really love it but it sounds like the guy's vocals consist of yelling "wooooooooo!!" a lot. I can barely detect a tinge of harshness in them sometimes, but it mostly just sounds like regular yelling.
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Mar 16, 2009 20:55
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Dyna Soar posted:I can hear a lot of The Cure in the guitar sound. I'm sure most of you will hate it though Sentence 1 is why sentence 2 is right. The Cure is to black metal what NWA is to world music.
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Mar 16, 2009 21:27
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Morbid Florist posted:Sentence 1 is why sentence 2 is right. The Cure is to black metal what NWA is to world music. I hear a lot of tribal influences in NWA.
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Mar 16, 2009 21:30
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Morbid Florist posted:Sentence 1 is why sentence 2 is right. The Cure is to black metal what NWA is to world music. Nah, Neige pulls it off. You're not the final authority in all things black metal btw, so stop acting like it.
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Mar 16, 2009 21:40
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The dude's name is Snow. You know who else used the moniker? 
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Mar 16, 2009 21:48
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Dyna Soar posted:Nah, Neige pulls it off. You're not the final authority in all things black metal btw, so stop acting like it. If you can't handle contrary opinion don't throw something out in public.
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Mar 16, 2009 21:51
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Morbid Florist posted:If you can't handle contrary opinion don't throw something out in public. How about you listen to the album and then come back and post your precious opinion?
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Mar 16, 2009 21:57
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Dyna Soar posted:Nah, Neige pulls it off. You're not the final authority in all things black metal btw, so stop acting like it. Why do you care? Amesoeurs is definitely not Black Metal.
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Mar 16, 2009 22:11
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Mordekai posted:Why do you care? Amesoeurs is definitely not Black Metal. The new album has songs that most definitely are  Not that being or not being black metal would make it any better or worse. It's just that you guys don't really get to decide whats black metal and whats not. If a dude like Neige who's been making quality "real" black metal for a long time wants to mix it up with some Cure influences, you guys should at least listen to it before saying what it is or is not. Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Mar 16, 2009 |
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Mar 16, 2009 22:17
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Dyna Soar posted:The new album has songs that most definitely are Correction. One black metal song. That doesn't make Amesoeurs a black metal band. Hint: Bands with female lead vocals are not BM.
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Mar 16, 2009 22:23
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Mordekai posted:Hint: please tell me where all this info is from looks like i didnt get the memo
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Mar 16, 2009 22:26
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Dyna Soar posted:please tell me where all this info is from looks like i didnt get the memo Give me an example wich proves me wrong then. And make it a good band if you can.
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Mar 16, 2009 22:28
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Mordekai posted:Hint: Darkestrah
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Mar 16, 2009 22:28
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Mordekai posted:Give me an example wich proves me wrong then. And make it a good band if you can. Why do I need to prove some retarded rule you just pulled out of your rear end wrong? There's no reason black metal can't have female lead vocals.
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Mar 16, 2009 22:31
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Ok, sorry. Female lead vocals do not belong in a good black metal band. If you can prove me wrong kudos to you.
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Mar 16, 2009 22:34
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Mordekai posted:Ok, sorry. Female lead vocals do not belong in a good black metal band. If you can prove me wrong kudos to you. Well, this is kind of subjective, but cryme posted:Darkestrah Also Gallhammer. Also there's this album Jarboe of Swans fame made with Byla that's basically black metal without drums. I actually wonder why there aren't more bm bands with female lead vocals. It's a lot more common in other subgenres of metal. Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Mar 16, 2009 |
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Mar 16, 2009 22:37
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Mordekai posted:Ok, sorry. Female lead vocals do not belong in a good black metal band. If you can prove me wrong kudos to you. Haha, this is the most ridiculously out-dated, sexist thing I've heard in ages. Anyone can sit there and say: well, prove me wrong and I'll believe you. But no-one even needs to give you a list of good black metal bands with female lead vocals to be prove you wrong (surprise, surprise there aren't exactly that many. Tymah/Tuman is only one I can think of and they aren't very exceptional) because even if there isn't a single good bm band with female vocals, there is potential for one to exist. That's the point. In other words, if I really wanted to (and if I had the talent) I could join a black metal band tomorrow and start doing vocals for them. If the band produced good, high quality black metal and just happened to have me as a vocalist instead of a guy, who the gently caress is there to say that it's not black metal? edit: if you're trolling, Mordekai, just ignore this. I kind of hope you are because you're only poster in phiz who has compatible taste with me and it would suck if you were a biggot.
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Dyna Soar posted:How about you listen to the album and then come back and post your precious opinion? Okay, here's an opinion from someone who's heard the latest from both Amesoeurs and Alcest; neither are black metal, and neither are very appealing. Maybe they're groundbreaking releases in the shoegaze community, but this is the black metal community and we don't like them. So, as usual, I agree with Morbid Florist. Rain Temple posted:In other words, if I really wanted to (and if I had the talent) I could join a black metal band tomorrow and start doing vocals for them. If the band produced good, high quality black metal and just happened to have me as a vocalist instead of a guy, who the gently caress is there to say that it's not black metal? Agreed; I don't give two shits what gender the vocalist--or anyone else in the band--is; all that matters is the quality of the music. I will, however, echo that there aren't really any good female-fronted black metal bands. And yes, Dyna Soar, I know about Gallhammer and Darkestrah.
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Mar 17, 2009 00:58
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I can through Sigh and Behemoth's Grom into that...
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Mar 17, 2009 05:28
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The chick from Holy Moses could probably do BM. In fact that'd probably rule.
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Mar 17, 2009 05:49
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I listened to the amoesaurus album to hear what all the fuzz is about and I don't really get it because neither the post punk or the black metal elements sound particularly good
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Mar 17, 2009 07:20
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the new archgoat album is killer. just got the LP in the mail today.
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Razor posted:Okay, here's an opinion from someone who's heard the latest from both Amesoeurs and Alcest; neither are black metal, and neither are very appealing. You're the first one to mention Alcest. Also I never said Amesoeurs were exclusively black metal, just that they have a few black metal songs and use elements of it. But, since you listened to it you're free not to like it. I knew most of you wouldn't. Razor posted:Maybe they're groundbreaking releases in the shoegaze community, but this is the black metal community and we don't like them. That's the kind of group mentality I wouldn't expect from a fan of a style of music thats mostly about being unique little snowflakes. Razor posted:I will, however, echo that there aren't really any good female-fronted black metal bands. And yes, Dyna Soar, I know about Gallhammer and Darkestrah. Entirely subjective. Your opinion is as good as anyone elses.
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i have really good taste in black metal and i happen to like Amesoeurs. Do i like Amesoeurs for the same reasons i like Blasphemy or Sarcofago? No. Are they black metal? No. Their music isn't lovely but they dont belong in the same category as black metal nor do they belong in this thread. and about the female fronted BM bands.. all are really lovely. :\ Drudkh fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Mar 17, 2009 |
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Amesoeurs have BM elements. Besides, can't you people enjoy music that isn't black metal? expand your tastes I reckon its a pretty average album anyway, not very memorable songs but decent as a whole. Also, bm bands with female fronted vocals are BM, time to stop being sexist and elitist.
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So is Darkestrah's The Great Silk Road really a bad album for you guys? (I remember a fair bit of posts about it)
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Svartsyn's Tormentor is pretty sweet.
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Kaiho posted:So is Darkestrah's The Great Silk Road really a bad album for you guys? Yeah, it was bland and uninteresting. As for female vocals, Dana Duffey always did a good job in Mythic and the vocals are fine in Demonic Christ. The Clit Avoider fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Mar 17, 2009 |
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Cold Day posted:Amesoeurs have BM elements. Besides, can't you people enjoy music that isn't black metal? expand your tastes I feel the same way which is really disappointing since I love the first EP and pretty much everything else Neige has done. Eh maybe it will grow on me. Can anyone recommend any other bands that mix black metal with other genres like Neige's stuff and Lifelover?
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HOLYFLAMINGCRAP posted:I feel the same way which is really disappointing since I love the first EP and pretty much everything else Neige has done. Eh maybe it will grow on me. New Solstafir, called Köld is what you're looking for.
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someone needs to rerelease the albums of Grand Belial's Key on vinyl. Im sick of not being able to find the original LPs. anyone a fan of Judeobeast Assassination?
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New Beherit album April 9th. Discuss. Also good female fronted bands I didn't see mentioned: Be Persecuted Lucifugum
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Clothes Optional posted:New Beherit album April 9th. Discuss. i expect the new Beherit to be more along the lines of Electric Doom Synthesis.. i would welcome another The Oath of Black Blood or drawning dawn the moon but i doubt Holocausto will go that way. Either way im def. curious to hear the new Beherit album. Perhaps.. it may be good.
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Clothes Optional posted:Lucifugum Anyone mentioning Lucifugum who isn't talking about their early material (mostly the demos) is usually laughed at, and for good reason.
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Clothes Optional posted:New Beherit album April 9th. Discuss. This will be horrible. There's no way in hell Holocausto will be able to make a Beherit album 15 years after.
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