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What's special about this picture? Click here for the full 912x608 image. Followup image, linked for suprise: https://wi.somethingawful.com/20/209523c0d7f150b4db97258d3e62c53531243eb2.jpg
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May 13, 2009 23:10
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Ola posted:It helps prevent scary things like wheelies and cornering. Wheelies arn't usually a problem on a ninja250.
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May 13, 2009 23:16
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blugu64 posted:Wheelies arn't usually a problem on a ninja250. Turbokit and NAWS hidden behind fairing.
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May 13, 2009 23:18
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Z3n posted:What's special about this picture? Rats, I thought it was 2-up.
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May 14, 2009 07:56
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Ever wondered how a car tire really behaves on a bike? A guy on a Norwegian bike forum did these great vids of the tire at speed. Bike tire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIfrFch-VqE Car tire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwSSXHanpv0
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May 15, 2009 18:26
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Ola posted:Ever wondered how a car tire really behaves on a bike? A guy on a Norwegian bike forum did these great vids of the tire at speed. quote:flamewerks (4 weeks ago)  What the hell, they...completely missed the point.
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May 15, 2009 18:34
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I don't know, it doesn't look that bad. The tire deforms somewhat and the contact patch becomes wider than just the sharp edge of the tire you'll see in a diagram of horror about car tires. Apparently the Valkyries tend to munch through rear tires and this is a way to save money. Some people have gone through tens of thousands of miles on them. It might be less grip but it doesn't mean instant death apparently.
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May 15, 2009 18:56
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Still, I was wincing every time they turned on the car tire. 
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May 15, 2009 18:57
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Ola posted:Ever wondered how a car tire really behaves on a bike? A guy on a Norwegian bike forum did these great vids of the tire at speed. Good videos but nothing really surprising there. Folks tend to go to the "dark side" of car tires on big cruisers that don't lean much, so you don't have to worry about running out of contact patch with the square tire profile. That said I bet steering effort goes up considerably. My friend has one on his Vulcan 2000 since it ate rear tires about every 2500 or 3000 miles and he rides quite a bit.
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May 15, 2009 19:04
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Z3n posted:
Either that's an awesome troll . . . or . . . oh dear god, I don't want to imagine the consequences, my brain may explode.
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May 15, 2009 19:05
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Ola posted:I don't know, it doesn't look that bad. The tire deforms somewhat and the contact patch becomes wider than just the sharp edge of the tire you'll see in a diagram of horror about car tires. Apparently the Valkyries tend to munch through rear tires and this is a way to save money. If you keep the bike mostly upright, you're probably ok, but when he takes a corner at decent speed, he's already reaching the point that he's getting up on to the sidewall due to the weight of the bike focused on one point. I bet those people have some bizzaro wear patterns around the edges if the rear tire. Also, the more you lean it, the more you're reducing your contact patch, so it's going to quickly fall off once you start to lose traction. I'd also be curious as to how it's going to feel to run those tires in the rain when you've only got 20-30% of the tread pushing water out of the way. Then again, if you're not noticing the absolutely poo poo handling charactistics as you overcome the massive flatspot on the tire, you're probably not going to be riding it in such a fashion where it'd be a problem.  I don't think they'll instantly explode or anything, but I would never recommend or think that something like that was a good idea. But I just got done drilling holes in my triples, so maybe my judgement is flawed. 
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May 15, 2009 19:22
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Too much yut not enough ughhhhhh Kid practicing wheelies gets friendly with the asphalt. Notice he can't do a u-turn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMk_sjoUMqc
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May 15, 2009 20:21
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megazord posted:Too much yut not enough ughhhhhh That makes me sad, it's the same zx6r that i have:(. (P.S always in the back of my head i want to learn how to wheelie, this just tells me why i should just keep it in the back of my head and not try it)
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May 16, 2009 03:45
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Silky Thighs posted:That makes me sad, it's the same zx6r that i have:(. I'd love to know how to wheelie, and I think it would be fun every so often, but I can't do it. There was a definite blank look moment when the guy at the garage warned me against wheelies; seems whomsoever installed the braided brake lines has made them a tad short, so they're all full stretch when I'm off the bike. Then again I see a vid like that every time I'm even considering it, and then I scuttle away. Scuttle far away.
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May 16, 2009 08:44
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Silky Thighs posted:(P.S always in the back of my head i want to learn how to wheelie, this just tells me why i should just keep it in the back of my head and not try it)
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May 16, 2009 11:04
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Silky Thighs posted:That makes me sad, it's the same zx6r that i have:(. I've wheelied the Husky a few times just by accident. Basically when I first got it I didn't know proper dirtbike positioning and sat way back on the seat, meaning every time I gassed it from a light the front end came up and stayed there for a few seconds. Hopefully I can work up from the there little by little. I figure even if I damage the bike, years from now when I can wheelie at will it'll be worth it.
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May 16, 2009 13:22
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This is probably the safest way to start to wheelie.
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May 16, 2009 13:31
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Orange Someone posted:
Same, I cant even imagine the sinking feeling when you see your bike destroyed half way down the road because of a bad wheelie. That said I do love a good wheelie, waiting at some lights once a 08 1000 ninja pulled up next to me, gave me the thumbs up was still doing a wheelie a 1/4 mile down the road as my 4 stroke 125 wasnt even in third gear.
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May 16, 2009 14:08
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I don't think I could ever just wheelie down a public road like some of these people. I live on a dead end/private road and once and a while I'll pop the front up but if something happened no one would see. If I hosed up out in the open I'd feel like a real rear end. edit: I'd probably get busted by a cop around here anyway :|
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May 16, 2009 14:27
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Buhbuhj posted:I don't think I could ever just wheelie down a public road like some of these people. I live on a dead end/private road and once and a while I'll pop the front up but if something happened no one would see. If I hosed up out in the open I'd feel like a real rear end. This is the biggest reason why I don't fool with wheelies. The first is that I'm a major pussy, afraid that I'll wad my bike. Next is the fact that Florida is really trying to crack down on stunting on public roads.
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May 16, 2009 14:34
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Mercator posted:This is probably the safest way to start to wheelie. I don't know. I've never like the idea of clutching wheelies up. I'd rather power it up.
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May 16, 2009 14:51
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Mercator posted:This is probably the safest way to start to wheelie. The video makes it look really easy. A lot of guys say to never use the clutch in first but it seems fine.
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May 16, 2009 14:52
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I learned to wheelie on my old Ninja 250, 9k clutch dumps SCARY. Now if I'm out in the back roads I'll just lay on the throttle in first to get her up. I've only done a second gear clutch up and my oil light came on so now I don't do wheelies because I don't have a deep oil sump and I worry enough about the bike
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May 16, 2009 14:58
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Yeah, Buell's are supposed to be wheelie machines with all the torque, but I'm rather afraid of trashing it.  Plus, with a low redline, first gear is very short. Overall, it just seems like a high probability of loving it up, and this is only my third season.
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May 16, 2009 16:43
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I wish I was good at them, it just sucks because people make it seem so easy. Grrr!
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May 16, 2009 17:03
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I'm quite content with not doing wheelies. I've brought up the front a handful of times and each time I'm more concerned with what I'm doing to my front end than anything else.
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May 17, 2009 00:32
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Pictures from the 'Try-the-Track'  Can't wait to get a proper racing suit to really ride the track 
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May 17, 2009 01:04
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So far I've only had one wheelie with the R1. I did it for several years with dirt bikes and such. However on the R1 it was not intentional. I just decided to find the rev limiter and I happened to lift the front wheel in the process... Fake edit: As a disclaimer, I do have some area's around here that are fairly safe to practice/experiment in.
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May 17, 2009 01:06
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I dont even gently caress with full on headlight-in-the-sky wheelies. Firstly because I'd rather not wad the Bandit up if I lose it, and secondly, the local cops have come up with some way to charge around $800 for a wheelie ticket. No thanks.
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May 17, 2009 01:57
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Carb sync yay! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asM3kQWPmLM I can't remember that new code for embed, but the sidebar text is actually informative anyway.
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May 17, 2009 02:02
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CSi-NA-EJ7 posted:Pictures from the 'Try-the-Track' Put the ball of your feet on the pegs.  Also, what is 'Try-the-Track'?
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May 17, 2009 03:51
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Ok I have teased enough here is some video of the new bike. You can see my sad excuse for a headlight (don't worry day driving only until I get the original set back up) As well as some of the body damage to the bike. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ8G8W0s3gg Just as an FYI the bike was warmed up previous to this.
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May 17, 2009 04:23
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Phat_Albert posted:and secondly, the local cops have come up with some way to charge around $800 for a wheelie ticket. I'm pretty sure a wheelie would qualify under Ontario's "impound your loving vehicle right NOW" street racing laws so I haven't even explored the possibility. Besides, my bike is old as poo poo and its not fair to the old bastard to be asking for wheelies.
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May 17, 2009 04:25
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May 17, 2009 07:59
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Revenant.Eagle posted:Put the ball of your feet on the pegs. You get to go around the track here with an instructor as slow as piss for like 5 laps so you can gauge whether or not you want to invest another grand into gear + school + track days
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May 17, 2009 09:02
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One day about 5 years ago when I had my R6 I decided I was going to learn to do wheelies. I rode out to Vancouver Lake where they have this huge long road they usually street race on. I start out trying to bounce up 2nd gear. I spend about 10 minutes getting the front end just barely off the ground each time I would try and bring the thing up. After doing that for awhile, I remember what someone told me about wrapping your wrist further over the throttle, like if you keep your hand in the normal position you ride in you are not giving enough throttle to the bike when you go to open it full throttle. So, without really thinking about it I roll my wrist forward over the throttle, grabbing the throttle in a position so when I roll it back, I am definitely getting full throttle. I turn the bike around and get aimed down the road, bring it up to around 8k in 2nd gear and bounce the front and slam the throttle open. Before I could realize what was going on the front end was so far off the ground I was looking straight at the front tire. I wasn't at 12 but I was far higher than I had ever been. In a panic I chopped the throttle and the front came down HARD. With my hand wrapped over the throttle like it was, I also wasn't holding the handlebars straight. When the bike came down it instantly started tank slapping. It slapped maybe 4 or 5 times almost instantly then my hand which was still wrapped far over the throttle pulled enough throttle to bring the front end back in the air, this time with me sitting down. At this point I let go of the throttle and the front end slams down again, this time without the tank slapping but with enough force to bring me forward in the seat. I decided at that point to never try wheelies again on a street bike.
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May 17, 2009 09:08
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4/20 NEVER FORGET posted:One day about 5 years ago when I had my R6 I decided I was going to learn to do wheelies. Im thinking of an R6 for my second bike, and when im daydreaming about it, this scenario always sneaks into the back of my mind, that or giving it to much throttle away from some lights and the bike just goes flying.
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May 17, 2009 12:04
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fronkpies posted:Im thinking of an R6 for my second bike, and when im daydreaming about it, this scenario always sneaks into the back of my mind, that or giving it to much throttle away from some lights and the bike just goes flying. I don't think there is a 600 that would 'go flying' if you punched it hard leaving from a street light. It takes a while to build power on a 600 which is part of why I like it so much. Under 7k you have a very managable, docile bike. Get above 7k and things get nuts. If I had it to do over again, I never would have sold my 2003 R6 and I would still own it. I will admit I got penis envy back when I started riding and moved to a 954rr simply for the number on the side of the bike. What a mistake, I never got comfortable enough on the 954rr as my R6 because the thing was so serious and powerful. I had been riding a couple years but I had no where near the experience to handle such a bike. If you are ever thinking of getting a 03-05 R6 or one of the R6S models, they are great bikes. Mine handled so well and was extemely forgiving.
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May 17, 2009 15:24
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4/20 NEVER FORGET posted:I don't think there is a 600 that would 'go flying' if you punched it hard leaving from a street light. What? I'm pretty sure going WOT will do that on almost any bike much less a SS 600, it might now magically fly out from under you but the fury and speed of acceleration makes most poo poo their pants and drive straight into a guard rail.
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Stoic Commie posted:I wonder if I can trade mine in for a new Honda...
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