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Count Choculitis
Sep 13, 2007

I love you, Shepard. I always have. I want to understand what this is between us... and make it real.
This might be better in another thread, but I just watched the new Star Trek movie and absolutely loved it. I've never seen a single episode of the show but would really like to, and I'm gonna have a whole summer taking classes with none of my friends in town so I'll have TONS of time for tv shows.

I know there are a lot of different series and movies and I don't have any idea where to start. I know that some of the series have more empowered women than others, so I'd prefer those, but I love scifi and cheesiness and I really think I'll enjoy it no matter what. Any advice?

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cnrkb
Sep 29, 2008

The internet is
serious business

Count Choculitis posted:

This might be better in another thread, but I just watched the new Star Trek movie and absolutely loved it. I've never seen a single episode of the show but would really like to, and I'm gonna have a whole summer taking classes with none of my friends in town so I'll have TONS of time for tv shows.

I know there are a lot of different series and movies and I don't have any idea where to start. I know that some of the series have more empowered women than others, so I'd prefer those, but I love scifi and cheesiness and I really think I'll enjoy it no matter what. Any advice?
Do you own a Blu-ray player?

Count Choculitis
Sep 13, 2007

I love you, Shepard. I always have. I want to understand what this is between us... and make it real.

Zuffox posted:

Do you own a Blu-ray player?

Sadly I do not. I play all my dvds in my 360 or on my lappy, neither of which have it.

cnrkb
Sep 29, 2008

The internet is
serious business
Are you gunning for watching The Original Series or Next Generation? Each to their own and all.

Count Choculitis
Sep 13, 2007

I love you, Shepard. I always have. I want to understand what this is between us... and make it real.

Zuffox posted:

Are you gunning for watching The Original Series or Next Generation? Each to their own and all.

I really have no idea which I should watch, since I don't know a thing about Star Trek except what I saw in the movie last night so I was hoping you guys could tell me the differences or pros/cons of each series.

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax
For Star Trek you might just want to pick up one of the Fan Collectives which have a smattering of episodes from each series tied together by a common theme.

Captain's Log is, without a doubt, the best of these, containing:


The Original Series:
The City on the Edge of Forever
The Enterprise Incident
Balance of Terror

The Next Generation:
In Theory
Chain of Command
Darmok

Deep Space Nine:
Far Beyond the Stars
What You Leave Behind
In the Pale Moonlight

Voyager:
Counterpoint
The Omega Directive
Flashback

Enterprise:
Judgment
These Are the Voyages (WHO PUT THIS ON THE loving SET?)
First Flight

Leviathan
Oct 8, 2001

I hear the jury's
still out.. on science.
Fun Shoe
Just binged through Trailer Park Boys for the second time. It was even awesomer than the first.

Season 7 opening scene (pretty unrelated to any major story continuity):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb3UyYZyC70

frumpsnake
Jan 30, 2001

The sad part is, he wasn't always evil.
After making my way through Six Feet Under, I got back into The Wire. I have 3 episodes to go, and I don't want it to end. :( Season Two was my favourite, I get the impression I'm in the minority here?

Don't know where to go from here...The Sopranos? The Shield? Deadwood? Rome? Carnivale? I'd be tempted to wait for Rome to hit Blu-Ray. Sopranos I loved season 1, but for some reason never continued.

frumpsnake fucked around with this message at 04:44 on May 11, 2009

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

frumpsnake posted:

I got back into The Wire. I have 3 episodes to go, and I don't want it to end. :( Season Two was my favourite, I get the impression I'm in the minority here?
Season 2 is my favorite too. Everyone else has a kneejerk reaction to it I guess because the drug angle is less pronounced. Still, how many fictional TV shows have genuinely worked in the collapse of the American working class that well?

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

Count Choculitis posted:

I really have no idea which I should watch, since I don't know a thing about Star Trek except what I saw in the movie last night so I was hoping you guys could tell me the differences or pros/cons of each series.

I am a fan of the original series so I want to recommend you at least give it a try despite its age - it's great, if you can put yourself in a frame of mind to accept an older style of television and low budget effects (though this is mitigated on the remastered Blu-rays with new CGI that is good but not overly flashy, nothing like the new movie for example). It features all the characters you saw in this movie, but to truly appreciate it you'll still often need a healthy ability to look past goofy costumes and very plain and archaic-looking sets. Opinions vary but of the 79 episodes, you should be able to fully and legitimately enjoy at least 20-30 of them even if you have fairly high standards on the writing.

I think it's worth it to start with the original pilot, "The Cage," an adventure in Captain Pike's time with a small part for a very young Lt. Spock, although no other characters you'd recognize. If you like that then just start watching the series proper, beginning with the second pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before." I'm not gonna lie, there are some bad episodes, more often in the later seasons, but that's part of Star Trek and if you're going to dive in I think you miss a lot by not watching them at least once.

The first six movies feature the same original cast, and the even-numbered ones are generally considered superior, but again I would say why not watch them all, good and bad. There's no particular reason not to watch the movies first if you want, although they do take place many years after the series, and Star Trek II follows up on events in the episode "Space Seed," and forms a loose trilogy with the following two movies.

The Next Generation especially at first is a product of the '80s, so in a way it's probably actually aged worse than the original. It began as a sort of updated version of the original series, just with new characters in a later time, but became its own show a couple of seasons in. Both this and the original stand apart a little bit, in that they are almost entirely episodic - as I said, a different era of television. There are a few more ongoing threads in TNG, mostly characters, but by and large most of the episodes can still be watched in any order if for some reason you feel like it. I am old fashioned so I say just watch front to back.

The movies in the TNG era aren't numbered, but Generations, First Contact, Insurrection, and Nemesis are the movies featuring that crew (there are no movies of the later shows). Some of the movies seem like "big-screen episodes" but First Contact is usually mentioned in lists of best Trek movies.

Deep Space Nine is the favorite of a good number of fans. It turns the premise on its head a little, in that it is set on a space station instead of a starship. It begins contemporarily with I think season 5 or 6 of TNG, but (eventually) features a much more involved overall story, and is probably the oldest Trek that doesn't look terribly dated to modern eyes. In the later seasons it becomes a war drama of sorts, and many would argue it has the best developed characters of any of the shows.

Voyager is where most fans seem to agree the franchise began going downhill, although a lot of people still have a fondness for it. It wasn't quite as serialized as DS9, but still more so than TNG. Most of the complaints against Voyager consist of being technobabble-heavy and being too much like the worse moments of TNG, despite the ship being lost on the other side of the galaxy trying to get home. I'd only start this one if you finish the others and still want more. It's got some good times and usually isn't offensively bad, it just seems a little tired sometimes.

Enterprise is pretty polarizing. It's a prequel series set about 100 years before the original. The first couple of seasons follow along the lines of Voyager, sort of mediocre and bland, until they tried to shake it up, to mixed results in season 3 and generally positive in season 4. I'd give this roughly the same weight as Voyager: for fans only (that's what killed it btw).

I hope you've enjoyed my list. My recommendation is to start at the beginning and just plow straight in, because I am old school like that.

Winifred Madgers fucked around with this message at 06:06 on May 11, 2009

Retroblique
Oct 16, 2002

Now the wild world is lost, in a desert of smoke and straight lines.
Currently binging through Battlestar Galactica.

The show started just after I moved to the States and, being without cable for a while, I never really had a chance to watch it properly. I watched the mini series via Netflix, but we ended up cancelling our account before I could get started on the full series. I did buy the first season on DVD and ploughed through that a few years ago, but for whatever reason never got round to playing catch up.

Anyway, a few months ago I ended up buying the second season DVDs, so I started from the mini series again and have been plowing through them steadily ever since. We've just finished the third season. Waiting for the 4.5 DVD to be released before we finish the series off. For some reason I managed to avoid most spoilers for the show over the years.

In the mean time, I bought the Caprica DVD. Very impressive. It'll probably divide hardcore BSG fans -- half will love it, half will think it's a pile of poo poo. Possibly a bit too esoteric for its own good, so I won't be surprised if a second season isn't commissioned, but I live in hope.

The Office was a previous binger. As a Brit, my loyalty has largely been with the original show. The first season of the US remake just didn't hit the right notes for me. The first episode was a carbon copy of the UK version's first episode and it just gave me that feeling you get when someone tells your favourite joke in a slightly different way. The rest of the season failed to impress.

However, during the second of the US version, the writers, actors and directors really started playing to one another's strengths. I caught the odd episode on TV and found myself enjoying it, so I ended up buying the second season DVD. My wife and I plowed through it in record time. I remember when the end credits to Casino (second season cliffhanger) rolled, it was about 3am on the weekend, and we just turned to each other and agreed we had to roll out to Wal-Mart right then and there to buy the third season. We completed that just in time for the fourth season to start on TV and we've been hardcore fans ever since.

oldfan
Jul 22, 2007

"Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."
So I was thinking this morning, Chuck is my favorite show right now, and there were a couple very brief periods (read: Season 1 pre-Oliver and Season 4) where The O.C. was at least in the top few. But despite my addiction to the other Josh Schwartz shows, I'd never given Gossip Girl a try.

I've watched the first eight episodes today. Holy poo poo this is an awesome guilty pleasure drama. There's a lot of the good stuff from The O.C.'s first season without most of the bad stuff, at least so far. And Blake Lively is so so so so much better in every way than Mischa Barton in the lead female role.

Regarding the Star Trek discussion, I'll pipe in as a fan who is not a devoted Trekkie. I got hooked as a kid during the original run of The Next Generation, so that's my favorite, warts and all, although some of the later movies with that crew are abysmal. I also enjoy the original series even though it's pretty 60s sci-fi campy, and the movies with that crew vary from okay to awesome. Deep Space Nine is mostly very, very good and has the deepest cast, but it had some down spots too. I could never get into Voyager or Enterprise despite significant efforts.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =

Nate RFB posted:

Season 2 is my favorite too. Everyone else has a kneejerk reaction to it I guess because the drug angle is less pronounced. Still, how many fictional TV shows have genuinely worked in the collapse of the American working class that well?

Everyone I know and myself think that season 2 is the greatest. I'm a bit into season 5 at the moment, but Season 2 is just... brilliance. I wish we saw a bit more of what happened to the docks, not that following the Barksdale empire wasn't fun but still :(

Pissing Art
Jun 28, 2008

Look out honey,
'cause I'm abusing ontology
Deadwood. Goddamn that's some good period telly drama.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

frumpsnake posted:

I got back into The Wire. I have 3 episodes to go, and I don't want it to end. :( Season Two was my favourite, I get the impression I'm in the minority here?

In my opinion the only thing that beats season 2 in terms of sheer quality is season 4 of the same series, and I think season 4 is the best drat season of television I have ever seen in my life, so that makes season 2 pretty loving good!

spooky wizard
May 8, 2007


jeffersonlives posted:

I've watched the first eight episodes today. Holy poo poo this is an awesome guilty pleasure drama. There's a lot of the good stuff from The O.C.'s first season without most of the bad stuff, at least so far. And Blake Lively is so so so so much better in every way than Mischa Barton in the lead female role.

It really is great. It sort of lags during the mid-point of Season 2, but otherwise I've enjoyed the show immensely. Blake Lively is great.

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

People that have not watched the Wire or possibly even Deadwood and are reading about other posters binging through them, take note. These are exceptionally good series, especially compared to poo poo like Chuck or Gossip Girls.

thrakkorzog
Nov 16, 2007

SaviourX posted:

People that have not watched the Wire or possibly even Deadwood and are reading about other posters binging through them, take note. These are exceptionally good series, especially compared to poo poo like Chuck or Gossip Girls.

You know it is possible to appreciate shows like The Wire, The Sopranos, Deadwood, Breaking Bad, etc. and still enjoy watching fun shows like Chuck. In film metaphors, The Wire is the Citizen Kane of TV serials, while Chuck is basically Big Trouble in Little China. But there's no law that says you can't like them both.

If you can't smile a bit at Jeffster playing at Ellie & Awesome's wedding, you're dead inside.

thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 09:15 on May 13, 2009

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

It's also possible to say they are probably good shows but I really have no interest in watching them.

oldfan
Jul 22, 2007

"Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."

SaviourX posted:

People that have not watched the Wire or possibly even Deadwood and are reading about other posters binging through them, take note. These are exceptionally good series, especially compared to poo poo like Chuck or Gossip Girls.

Shows are good on different levels, and all four of those mentioned are shows I have watched and enjoyed. The Wire and Deadwood are certainly great, realistic dramas, and I would heartily recommend anyone give them a shot.

But that's not always what I'm in the mood for. Chuck is funny, dramatic, filled with great characters, and has lots of action and hot chicks. Does it have the realism or writing of The Wire or Deadwood? Of course not, but I have more fun watching it than anything else in many years. Gossip Girl is a trashy teen drama, but it's less cliched and more interesting than most and I have a mild fondness for the genre when it's well done.

One Two Twee!
Jan 6, 2009
I finished the 8 seasons of Scrubs in time for the Finale, then I blew through Chuck in a week, and now I started the Sopranos again, but I might check out Gossip Girls because of this thread, even though I was never inclined to do so. I love Chuck and loved the OC when it was good, so I might as well give this a try

Cart
Sep 28, 2004

They see me rollin...

SaviourX posted:

People that have not watched the Wire or possibly even Deadwood and are reading about other posters binging through them, take note. These are exceptionally good series, especially compared to poo poo like Chuck or Gossip Girls.

You know it's entirely possible to watch different things for different reasons right?

For example, I recognize that Schindler's List is an absolute masterpiece of a movie, but if I come home from the pub drunk I'd rather watch Office Space instead.

I'd recently finished watching The Shield, an absolutely brilliant show in its own right that just left me with an emotional gut punch right at the end of it. Really glad I saw it, but I don't see myself going back to it anytime soon. Next, I watched Chuck, which is the polar opposite in terms of tone and mood. It'll never be heralded as a masterpiece of modern storytelling, but I can't think of a show I've watched recently that has been as entertaining and just plain fun to watch.

Leviathan
Oct 8, 2001

I hear the jury's
still out.. on science.
Fun Shoe
Finally got back into The Wire. I had to watch the first 6-7 episodes before I really got into it and now I'm sorta in that binge mode where you wanna watch 6 eps in a row. I'm currently on the 12th ep and I can't believe they killed Wallace nooooooooo

-Blackadder-
Jan 2, 2007

Game....Blouses.
I just went through the Grey's Anatomy Season 1 again.

Am I missing it or does TV IV not have a Grey's Anatomy thread?

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

-Blackadder- posted:

I just went through the Grey's Anatomy Season 1 again.

Am I missing it or does TV IV not have a Grey's Anatomy thread?



I made one...the Shonda Rhimes Megathread, for that and Private Practice....it doesn't exactly thrive though.


Also, the first few episodes of that show are still fantastic to go back and watch.

Relentlessboredomm
Oct 15, 2006

It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

Leviathan posted:

Finally got back into The Wire. I had to watch the first 6-7 episodes before I really got into it and now I'm sorta in that binge mode where you wanna watch 6 eps in a row. I'm currently on the 12th ep and I can't believe they killed Wallace nooooooooo

Yea thats one of the more heartbreaking scenes in the first season. BUT GUESS WHAT? It will always be that loving heartbreaking, which is why its so drat amazing.

netw1z
Oct 19, 2008
. . .
Just recently finished binging through How I Met Your Mother and Entourage.

Both were absolutely fantastic. I'd had Entourage for a long time and always put off watching it for some reason, but from the first episode I was hooked and polished off 4 seasons in a couple of weeks.

Not sure what to watch now, I have a choice of: Alias, Andromeda, Burn Notice, Chuck, CSI, Dead Like Me, Dirty Sexy Money, Firefly, The Sopranos (only seen the 1st season), and The Wire.

Show's I've loved in the past include 24, BSG, Dexter, Flight of The Conchords, Heroes, House, Jericho, Lost, Prison Break, Scrubs, Shameless (UK), Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis, and The Office (both UK and US)...

...so any suggestions welcome :)

Rapsey
Sep 29, 2005

horizon posted:

Not sure what to watch now, I have a choice of: Alias, Andromeda, Burn Notice, Chuck, CSI, Dead Like Me, Dirty Sexy Money, Firefly, The Sopranos (only seen the 1st season), and The Wire.
Very high quality shows: The Sopranos, The Wire
Stupid but fun: Firefly, Dead Like me, Burn Notice
Garbage: Andromeda
Don't know the rest.

mcbexx
Jul 4, 2004

British dentistry is
not on trial here!



I recently started watching Chuck and while it is certainly watchable, I'm not really hooked. For me, the action sequences are too cartoonish and the mix of goofy comedy and spy/sci-fi stuff did not hit a nerve yet. I am 10 episodes in and will keep watching for the time being (box set was 11 bucks, so what the heck), but I just can't share most TVIV goons opinon that it currently is one of the best shows on TV.

Is season 2 that much better than the first?

Count Choculitis
Sep 13, 2007

I love you, Shepard. I always have. I want to understand what this is between us... and make it real.

horizon posted:

Not sure what to watch now, I have a choice of: Alias, Andromeda, Burn Notice, Chuck, CSI, Dead Like Me, Dirty Sexy Money, Firefly, The Sopranos (only seen the 1st season), and The Wire.

...so any suggestions welcome :)

I highly recommend Firefly, as well as Buffy, such a fun show but a big time commitment since it is 7 seasons. Also Pushing Daisies and Wonderfalls in addition to Dead Like Me, they're by the same guy and are amazing (I haven't seen DLM yet but I hear it's awesome, I'm sure other people in this thread will tell you to watch it).

DrRimbaud
Feb 21, 2009

Believing this statement will make you happier.
After seeing and loving the movie, I have been blazing through Star Trek: TOS and am about to start Deep Space Nine. I am so excited that I basically have infinity Star Trek to watch this summer.

demozthenes
Feb 14, 2007

Wicked pissa little critta
I normally download my TV a season at a time, so I've been tearing through Big Bang Theory, Oz, Kids in the Hall, and Are You Afraid of the Dark in my downtime.

I'm also watching True Blood, Ghost Hunters, Masters of Horror/Fear Itself, and Star Trek: DS9 with my boyfriend.

CaptainHollywood
Feb 29, 2008


I am an awesome guy and I love to make out during shitty Hollywood horror movies. I am a trendwhore!

horizon posted:

Just recently finished binging through How I Met Your Mother and Entourage.

Both were absolutely fantastic. I'd had Entourage for a long time and always put off watching it for some reason, but from the first episode I was hooked and polished off 4 seasons in a couple of weeks.

But there are 5 seasons of Entourage, or is that a typo?

On that note: Of everything you've listed watch the Wire. From what you haven't suggested give Californication a shot. I feel like I've been missing out because I just started, and it's easily one of the funniest shows I haven't been watching. (I'm a fan of Mother, Office, Entourage and 30 Rock)

netw1z
Oct 19, 2008
. . .

CaptainHollywood posted:

But there are 5 seasons of Entourage, or is that a typo?

Not a typo, season 5's not out on DVD yet.

CaptainHollywood posted:

On that note: Of everything you've listed watch the Wire. From what you haven't suggested give Californication a shot. I feel like I've been missing out because I just started, and it's easily one of the funniest shows I haven't been watching. (I'm a fan of Mother, Office, Entourage and 30 Rock)

Sounds like The Wire might be the one to start then, Californication sounds pretty good and David Duchovny is awesome so I'll probably check that out.

Cart
Sep 28, 2004

They see me rollin...

mcbexx posted:

I recently started watching Chuck and while it is certainly watchable, I'm not really hooked. For me, the action sequences are too cartoonish and the mix of goofy comedy and spy/sci-fi stuff did not hit a nerve yet. I am 10 episodes in and will keep watching for the time being (box set was 11 bucks, so what the heck), but I just can't share most TVIV goons opinon that it currently is one of the best shows on TV.

Is season 2 that much better than the first?

Season 2 is definitely better and is far more consistent in terms of quality. There's some absolute standouts (including an episode based entirely on Die Hard) and very few weak episodes.

Having said that, if you really didn't like the first season you may not particularly enjoy the second. It does a much better job at balancing the core elements of the show (comedy, action, romance) but they've really just improved the formula rather than tried to reinvent anything.

thingfromtheswamp
Feb 25, 2009
Shaun the Sheep ready to go! I love Aardman!

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
I never really got into the Aardman stuff, so after watching (and loving) a Matter of Loaf and Death I queued up all their stuff in my lovefilm queue. Can't wait for it.

I've also completely binged out on the Twilight Zone. It's the kind of stuff that's incredibly hit or miss but there's some really cool episodes with pretty freaky ideas.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!
I know I am so very late on this, but I just finished season 4 of Lost. I have been watching this show for the last two months and binged through the first 4 seasons in that time. I plan on watching Season 6 as it airs this time (yes, I know it's the final season).

The Duke
May 19, 2004

The Angel from my Nightmare

Well, I just watched Dead Like Me: Life After Death. I've been putting it off since finishing the series a little bit ago and I'm thinking I should've kept it that way. Everything about it seemed cheesily thrown together, from the fact that they couldn't even get the original Daisy back (and her replacement is loving irritating to watch), to the terrible antagonist and fairly boring plot. It was nice to see these characters finally break all the rules set up in the series and their consequences, and I would've liked it to focus a little more on that. Instead we get a weak Reggie love story and the seemingly offhanded dismissal of the best character on the show. It wasn't entirely a waste of time (the opening scene with the Rube Goldberg machine was fantastic) and the ending was actually kind of hilarious in its absurdity, but I expected so much more after the overall quality of the show.

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Just finished binging through 26 years of Doctor Who..... now I gotta wait several months for a new episode like some kind of jerk!

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