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ufarn: It has stuff for geeks too. I mean, what other website do you know which is globally accessible and where you can just stream your own music from with absolutely zero hassle or setup involved? Plus, there's the whole infrastructure that allows you to write your own services. Edit: They're probably also expecting interest to spread as it's used. When you link your photo directory to people there's a small blurb in the top right that explains what this is in two sentences and invites people to try it out for themselves. So once the geeks start using it it'll advertise itself to everyone else. Greenfield posted:When Opera is streaming to your friends or whatever, is it traffic from port 80? Wouldn't your ISP be mad about running a web server? Either way, i just tried it and it streams through ports 5400+ for me. Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jun 16, 2009 |
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I'm trying out the new feature in the Unite build where you can disable the menu bar. As a result, I'm definitely getting to know the F4 bar over on the left, which isn't a bad thing in and of itself. I think I will keep the menu off for the time. As far as the Unite thing is concerned, it seems the potential is pretty big. It'll be interesting to see what services third-party developers can come up with.
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Jun 16, 2009 23:55
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For those who don't want to wade through the Opera documentation, here's a small run-down: Every web service is a single web server application hosted inside the Opera task. The application itself is written in Javascript, so you basically set up your global variables for the application and then a few event hooks that define which url path calls which javascript function. I'm not sure exactly how the global variables are handled, but it looks like they are stored indefinitely as the application state. Additionally you can make use of a "sandboxed" File IO system which allows you to both read and write to HDD from what I've seen so far; as well as a simple templating library. As such, while you don't have access to SQL niceties or the usual scripting languages, you have a language that's powerful and fast at your disposal and passable storage possibilities for even medium-sized tasks.
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Casao posted:Facebook breaking and unbreaking every other version is annoying. This is FB's fault more than Opera's. I ran 9.64 up until last week, and Facebook's functionality was all over the place prior to that.
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bartkusa posted:This is FB's fault more than Opera's. I ran 9.64 up until last week, and Facebook's functionality was all over the place prior to that. The problem is, one of the former Opera 10 releases worked, then as soon as I upgraded it stopped, then it was fixed next upgrade, then next upgrade broke it. I know FB is changing things too, but it's only affecting me in Opera.
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Mithaldu posted:Every web service is a single web server application hosted inside the Opera task. The application itself is written in Javascript, so you basically set up your global variables for the application and then a few event hooks that define which url path calls which javascript function. I'm not sure exactly how the global variables are handled, but it looks like they are stored indefinitely as the application state. I took a quick look at the documentation myself and saw that these services are basically widgets in Opera but with an additional XML-defined element, with the widgets themselves being the typical HTML/CSS/Javascript/XML file setups. The Unite services have access to things like the sandboxed file I/O that the widgets don't. Perhaps it's time to spruce up Opera SALR? Casao posted:The problem is, one of the former Opera 10 releases worked, then as soon as I upgraded it stopped, then it was fixed next upgrade, then next upgrade broke it. I know FB is changing things too, but it's only affecting me in Opera. What are they changing to cause that exactly? Sergeant Hobo fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Jun 17, 2009 |
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Sergeant Hobo posted:What are they changing to cause that exactly? No idea, all I know is that facebook's ajaxy-js stuff stops working randomly.
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Casao posted:No idea, all I know is that facebook's ajaxy-js stuff stops working randomly. it's true they're doing some big changes in presto (isn't it called somethiing else right now? some bird?) that makes it get 100/100 on the acid test. i'm of the opinion that FB is more to blame for "non-standards" compliant code.. Yes i know the rendering engine is supposed to be different than the js engine but still fb still works in 9.64 afaik. Not like i'd install a 9.x release at this point. Can someone confirm?
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down1nit posted:it's true they're doing some big changes in presto (isn't it called somethiing else right now? some bird?) that makes it get 100/100 on the acid test. i'm of the opinion that FB is more to blame for "non-standards" compliant code.. Yes i know the rendering engine is supposed to be different than the js engine but still fb still works in 9.64 afaik. Not like i'd install a 9.x release at this point. Can someone confirm? Peregrine is the name of the 10.0 build, but it's the Peregrine branch of the Presto engine. And, honestly, it works in IE, Firefox, Safari, Chrome and everything else I've thrown at it. It's JUST Opera that has these issues. It also has issues with Inserting images in a Wordpress post too, but that's a much smaller issue.
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timb posted:So, who is likely to be using Opera? The tech savvy consumer? Wouldn't they already be doing this stuff through other means? Yeah, you're pretty stupid. This is a great service that I imagine will really give Opera a boost. Most people have a somewhat vague idea that they'd want to be able to do this, and this gives them the zeroconfig way to do that. Just browse to anyone's share and check out how easy it is to listen to music, check out pictures etc. It can really be a hub for anyone you want to see what you have on your computer, and thus the easiest way to get it out there. Sorry you don't like it but your terrible analysis couldn't be more wrong. Sorry it isn't an Apple product?
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Would be nice if they gave UserJS access to all this sandboxed file IO stuff, but they probably won't. UserJS just seems highly neglected. Also of note is the fact that Opera Mobile supposedly has Gears support now but there's still no sign of it it appearing in the desktop releases? Pretty bizarre.
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Is Opera Unite down? I just downloaded the new Opera and set Unite up but there I get an error that says: Web Server Error: The proxy server appears to be down It advises me to restart Unite, which I do, but it still shows a connection problem.
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Adrnshw6 posted:Is Opera Unite down? I just downloaded the new Opera and set Unite up but there I get an error that says: Web Server Error: The proxy server appears to be down It's doing that to me as well. Opera Link doesn't seem to be working for me in this build either. It downloaded 2 of every bookmark, and doesn't download the custom searches at all. Wish I hadn't completely uninstalled the previous build beforehand.  Also, one thing that nobody else has mentioned yet is the UI changes. I like the new buttons/text fields. I'd like the bolded tabs for unviewed pages, if it didn't mark every tab as unviewed when you relaunch Opera. As far as Opera United goes: it seems cool, but there's nothing here I, as a tech savvy user, can't get with Dropbox, or Flickr, or whatever. Maybe I'll find a use for it later and change my mind. Edit: Also, Wand is no more. It is now called Autofill. 
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Jun 17, 2009 06:59
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Per Slashdot, Opera Unite has been benchmarked: http://apache.slashdot.org/story/09/06/19/0227249/Opera-Unite-Web-Server-Benchmarked?from=rss
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Got this message in a browsing session when connecting to certain sites: "A page on the public Internet requests data from your private intranet. For security reasons, automatic access is blocked." Bad, right? Done some malware scans, and nothing so far, although the search is still going on in Malwarebytes and Eset Smart Security. I'll probably shut off the internet most of the time, but that's not a viable solution to a problem that potentially is persistent. Any idea about the cause?
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I posted about it at the Opera forums here in case anyone wants to get more information about this bug. Does anyone here know what's going wrong? It's really annoying not being able to check my email. And for the bazillionth time, I manage to fix the problem on my own minutes after posting about it. This is happened to me countless times for tons of problems, not all of them involving Opera. Turns out that after I gave up and resorted to checking my mail via webmail and deleted some spam, everything started working again. Whatever. GuyGizmo fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Jun 22, 2009 |
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Jun 22, 2009 20:20
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I'm running Opera Unite, is there any way I can make it not activate a new tab as soon as it's created? I'm trying to make all my browsers use the same behavior of opening new tabs in the background.
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So I recently found out about a little feature (in just the Opera 10 betas, I believe) that I will share. I don't know if anyone has been paying attention to their bookmark menus, but you might have noticed some entries have letters in parentheses behind them (e.g. Wikipedia(Q) ). This was kind of irritating to me since I did not know exactly what they meant or even how they were assigned (very randomly from first glance). After some searching, it turns out that the letters were accelerators. Basically, whatever letter is behind the entry in whatever menu you are currently in, pushing that letter on the keyboard will activate that. Furthermore, it seems that the accelerator assignments are automatic in that if a letter is already in use by the other items (the underlined letters), Opera will use another letter entirely and add the letter to the end of it.
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Manky posted:I'm running Opera Unite, is there any way I can make it not activate a new tab as soon as it's created? I'm trying to make all my browsers use the same behavior of opening new tabs in the background. preferences > advanced > shortcuts > middle click options > open in background tab I'm pretty sure that is the default setting...
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Sergeant Hobo posted:So I recently found out about a little feature (in just the Opera 10 betas, I believe) that I will share.  ver0k posted:preferences > advanced > shortcuts > middle click options > open in background tab Or you can just assign Ctrl + T, or GestureDown to "Open link in background." Cosmopolitan fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Jun 23, 2009 |
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So have they busted out their new javascript rendering engine yet? I'm hoping it at least works with drupal's text editor without making GBS threads all over itself if the answer is no.
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Anunnaki posted:I'm using 10.1589, and I don't see the parenthisied letters you are talking about. Although pressing buttons does bring me to sites in my bookmarks, so v The parentheses will show up only if all the other letters are taken, or something like that. When you right-click somewhere on a page that's not a link, you should see an option to go to Full Screen. If I'm right, you should see Full-Screen(G). Typing G while that menu is showing should turn it to full-screen mode.
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sm8000 posted:Per Slashdot, Opera Unite has been benchmarked: quote:800 requests per second 
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er0k posted:preferences > advanced > shortcuts > middle click options > open in background tab You're right, it is the default behavior, but on a Mac laptop I'm always command-clicking, which I guess is something else. Guess I just need to use my travel mouse more.
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Sergeant Hobo posted:The parentheses will show up only if all the other letters are taken, or something like that.  Nope. Honestly, though, that sounds kind of annoying, so I'm glad I don't have it (for whatever reason).
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Anunnaki posted:Nope. Honestly, though, that sounds kind of annoying, so I'm glad I don't have it (for whatever reason). It seems that they aren't in/on by default in the Unite-enabled build. My laptop is on the beta before that one so I'm still noticing it over there. As for it being annoying, it was honestly more annoying not knowing why they were there, not that I would ever really use them.
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Manky posted:You're right, it is the default behavior, but on a Mac laptop I'm always command-clicking, which I guess is something else. Guess I just need to use my travel mouse more.
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Plorkyeran posted:Ctrl-Shift clicking on the PC opens the link in a background tab, and there should be some similar combination on the Mac version. Command-shift click will open a tab in the background, I was just hoping to get consistent tab opening behavior across the four/five browsers I use in a day. Seems like a pipe-dream, unfortunately.
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Sergeant Hobo posted:It seems that they aren't in/on by default in the Unite-enabled build. My laptop is on the beta before that one so I'm still noticing it over there. As for it being annoying, it was honestly more annoying not knowing why they were there, not that I would ever really use them. I can't stand it when I don't know something about Opera. Can someone on Vista/XP try this: Enable Voice, download the binaries and restart and see if the menu changes. I'm on 7 and everytime I try to do it Opera crashes. This will drive me nuts, though I'm sure it's something stupid and simple that we're all missing.
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A new snapshot is out. I was going to make a joke about bug fixes but I decided against it (probably better for you all).down1nit posted:I can't stand it when I don't know something about Opera. Can someone on Vista/XP try this: Enable Voice, download the binaries and restart and see if the menu changes. I'm on 7 and everytime I try to do it Opera crashes. This will drive me nuts, though I'm sure it's something stupid and simple that we're all missing. If you're talking about the voice download failing for some reason, there's a way to get it working by downloading it manually and throwing it in the correct folder. Let me see if I can find it.
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Seems like the auto updater has been improved, worked first try on both of my machines. And the newest weekly works on Facebook again, so everything's good.
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Sergeant Hobo posted:A new snapshot is out. I was going to make a joke about bug fixes but I decided against it (probably better for you all). actually i'm talking about the menu hotkey thing. i consider myself an opera knowitall so it is annoying when i can't figure somethin out. anyone else trading opera on the OSE? or am i that much a geek. (posting from opera mini sorry for nocaps)
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Zuffox posted:Holy Christ. I could kiss you for ridding me of Opera's BitTorrent. opera:config#BitTorrent|enable Where/how is this done? In a config file?
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Just enter it in the address bar. opera:config gives you all options of Opera, whether they're in the config dialogue or not.
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Arggh, I can't download my email AGAIN. This combined with all the crashes and broken webpages is really making me want to switch to another web browser I swear!!
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Hey look, my opera10 preview cant open http://thevideobay.org/sample-video.php 's HTML5 correctly even though Opera.9.52 or higher is said to have it working. Awesome!
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RoadCrewWorker posted:Hey look, my opera10 preview cant open http://thevideobay.org/sample-video.php 's HTML5 correctly even though Opera.9.52 or higher is said to have it working. Awesome! Looks like they are misdetecting the browser.
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Stanley Pain posted:Looks like they are misdetecting the browser. I thought so, but that's not the case. If you mask as Firefox, it doesn't work either, and viewing the source, they pass the video tag both cases and the text you see is the fall back text - either Opera has an issue with using a bold tag in the fall back text, or video is broken in opera 10.
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Casao posted:I thought so, but that's not the case. If you mask as Firefox, it doesn't work either, and viewing the source, they pass the video tag both cases and the text you see is the fall back text - either Opera has an issue with using a bold tag in the fall back text, or video is broken in opera 10. drat you're right, I tried masking right after I posted. Looks like video is broken
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Stanley Pain posted:drat you're right, I tried masking right after I posted. Looks like video is broken Report a site problem and see if it gets fixed, my completely out there guess is that it's not being supported because of the <b> tag in the fall back text, because otherwise I don't see why it wouldn't be working.
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