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Cytokinesis posted:Talking is a free action. To a point it is. It's up to the DM in terms of what really constitutes free action speech versus a partial action or something.
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Olanphonia posted:To a point it is. It's up to the DM in terms of what really constitutes free action speech versus a partial action or something. V was particularly verbose early in the strip and it counted as a round.
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Jun 16, 2009 22:35
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Cytokinesis posted:Talking is a free action. Talking is a free action in terms of a round (within limits, as has been pointed out a couple posts up) but that only applies to V and Xykon's throwdown. What V does doesn't affect Durkon's rounds, hundreds of miles away.
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Jun 17, 2009 04:42
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sfwarlock posted:Talking is a free action in terms of a round (within limits, as has been pointed out a couple posts up) but that only applies to V and Xykon's throwdown. What V does doesn't affect Durkon's rounds, hundreds of miles away. So you're saying that the six second rounds flow differently on different points of the planet? Telling the time must be a bitch and a half there.
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Jun 17, 2009 07:51
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Mystic Mongol posted:So you're saying that the six second rounds flow differently on different points of the planet? Telling the time must be a bitch and a half there. Any split party in D&D has huge difficulties in determining when things have actually occurred. Five rounds of combat some of the party may be in is only 30 seconds in game time, but 2 hours at the table, whereas the rest of the party might be doing something like gathering information in a bar a town over. That would take about a minute of time at the table, but several hours of in game time. A lot of times you can kind of handwave it away or make it so the plot continues when it needs to, which is what I'm guessing will happen in this part of the story. Basically, we don't know how many rounds passed since V left the rest of the party, along with getting captured, O'Chul's actions, all that poo poo so it could very well be that Durkon is done with the spell. Just ignore the timing, for the most part it will happen at plot convenient times. Besides, the "talking is a free action" rule has been a joke for years. People I play with will sometimes say "Well, I have a free action, I now recite the Gettysburg address". It's just a joke, the rule is meant to be used for things like "Look out" but the way it's worded is just horrible.
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Jun 17, 2009 08:22
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I'm very curious to see if Roy gets to retain knowledge of everything he learned during his time as a ghost.
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Jun 17, 2009 09:22
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seaborgium posted:Besides, the "talking is a free action" rule has been a joke for years. People I play with will sometimes say "Well, I have a free action, I now recite the Gettysburg address". It's just a joke, the rule is meant to be used for things like "Look out" but the way it's worded is just horrible. It's a real rule, or at least used to be. But it's in Champions, where the Big Bad Guy is assumed to have an opportunity to give his Why I Will Now Rule The World speech without being pounded unconscious before he finishes inhaling. See also comics by Chris Claremont, where people can agonise over their innermost soul-turmoil at length while flipping upside-down and grabbing a ledge. Actually, on second thought, don't read comics by Chris Claremont.
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Jun 17, 2009 11:53
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You just need to take the "monologuing as a free action" feat.
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Jun 17, 2009 12:11
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I like that Shadowrun acknowledges "making a gesture" as a free action and then admits that it sounds weird and explains that it's meant for silent communication with hand signals. I don't remember talking, but I think they explained that only short messages, a sentence or two, for a free action. Any more costs additional actions.
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Jun 17, 2009 12:44
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Mystic Mongol posted:So you're saying that the six second rounds flow differently on different points of the planet? Telling the time must be a bitch and a half there. Yes, I am saying exactly that. Otherwise  Apprentice, front and center! I ordered your mentor, the court wizard, to cast his spell half an hour ago, at which point he assured me it would only take five minutes! Why the delay? Sorry, m'liege. Someone on the other side of the planet is abusing the speech-is-a-free-action-in-combat rule. The last twenty rounds have lasted an average of two minutes each.Edit: Time flows the same, but the division of time into rounds is different. sfwarlock fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Jun 17, 2009 |
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Jun 17, 2009 16:59
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sfwarlock posted:Yes, I am saying exactly that. Otherwise Yeah, no. A round is always the same amount of time (six seconds), which is another reason you couldn't fit the Gettysburg address into a free action and why it's meant just for short "look out!" "behind you!" "hit the wizard!" type things. Edit: Also, Jesus Christ it's a D&D webcomic why are we doing this? We'll find out soon enough whether Roy has been raised.
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Jun 17, 2009 17:39
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So I'm just going to quote this entire thread in grognards.txt okay?
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Jun 17, 2009 17:44
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HKR posted:So I'm just going to quote this entire thread in grognards.txt okay? Thank you for bringing that thread to my attention, it is a delight.
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Jun 17, 2009 18:14
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RentACop posted:Thank you for bringing that thread to my attention, it is a delight. Quotin' this, that thread is a thing of beauty that has introduced me to the three greatest words in the English language. Some nerd talking about his employment prospects after blowing an interview with Burger King posted:Teaching freestyle nunchaku I cannot read that without bursting out into delighted child-like giggles, no matter how many times I look.
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Jun 17, 2009 23:07
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You know, after reading Start of Darkness, I really want Redcloak to be the one who caps Xykon.
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Jun 18, 2009 00:11
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Calling it now, when Redcloak turns on Xykon at the end he'll dramatically regenerate his eye.
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Jun 18, 2009 00:16
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Is freestyle nunchaku where you don't train in it at all and then assume your just good with it? Cos in that case I'm freestyling this degree in medicine like nobody's business.
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Jun 18, 2009 01:21
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More or less.
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Jun 18, 2009 08:22
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Actually I just read Start of Darkness and [\spoiler]I have much less respect for Redcloak than I did before. He is exactly what Xykon describes him as, a bitch and a coward. If Redcloak turns on Xylon then I hope Righteyes daughter kills him. [\spoiler] Spoilered since I don't know if everyones read Start of Darkness.
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Jun 18, 2009 17:04
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The Rooster posted:Spoilered since I don't know if everyones read Start of Darkness. Not terribly well. Besides, why would she do that if he did turn on Xykon? The list for betrayer killers isn't short, and it starts with the Monster in the Dark and Tsukiko.
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The Rooster posted:Actually I just read Start of Darkness and [\spoiler]I have much less respect for Redcloak than I did before. He is exactly what Xykon describes him as, a bitch and a coward. If Redcloak turns on Xylon then I hope Righteyes daughter kills him. [\spoiler] well done.
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Jun 18, 2009 18:14
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Mystic Mongol posted:Not terribly well. Besides, why would she do that if he did turn on Xykon? The list for betrayer killers isn't short, and it starts with the Monster in the Dark and Tsukiko. I'm thinking MitD stops being a team player longer before Redcloak ever does.
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Jun 21, 2009 05:08
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But he'd still be under the compulsion to eat redcloak even if he did himself rebel? BTW, erfworld is updating in text only form, for those that care. Well, text + some illos.
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Jun 21, 2009 18:59
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It's been six days since the last update, and I don't think I've ever seen a comic go up on Sunday, so it'll be tomorrow at the earliest. Waiting a full week between updates sucks donkey balls.
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Jun 21, 2009 19:24
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Hentaikid posted:But he'd still be under the compulsion to eat redcloak even if he did himself rebel? I read through Erfworld yesterday and its actually pretty good. The only real problem I had with it were the terribly unfunny internet cliches. Then I read their website updates... those are two creepy as hell people making that comic.
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Jun 21, 2009 20:09
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oh no not creepy people on the internet
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Jun 21, 2009 21:20
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Hentaikid posted:oh no not creepy people on the internet One of those great username/post combos.
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ConfusedUs posted:It's been six days since the last update, and I don't think I've ever seen a comic go up on Sunday, so it'll be tomorrow at the earliest. When we got a big, badass comic every two days a week ago you shoulda seen this coming.
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Jun 22, 2009 02:22
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I think he's got a good process going now. generally when a page ends open he's got an update out quick, and when we've got things basically wrapped up there's a bit of a gap, presumably so he can get ahead. it's possible he's just sick but considering we had a bit of a wait before V hit the tower and then a quick sucession of stuff happens updates it's probably intentional.
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Maldraedior posted:I think he's got a good process going now. generally when a page ends open he's got an update out quick, and when we've got things basically wrapped up there's a bit of a gap, presumably so he can get ahead. it's possible he's just sick but considering we had a bit of a wait before V hit the tower and then a quick sucession of stuff happens updates it's probably intentional. You just know that since the strip's about to hit a "landmark" moment he's going to announce a two-week hiatus.
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Jun 22, 2009 15:58
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Calaveron posted:You just know that since the strip's about to hit a "landmark" moment he's going to announce a two-week hiatus. At the end of the last book he took almost a month off I believe.
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Jun 22, 2009 16:06
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It's up Looks like V has indeed crossed over to the Nastier Side of the Playground.
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So is the party still balanced because Belkar is being less evil?
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Nilbop posted:It's up Not yet, I don't think. I've always said the Familicide spell was unequivocally Evil, but I think V is probably still Neutral. Just tending more and more towards Neutral Evil.
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Jun 24, 2009 13:58
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sfwarlock posted:Note that Durkon is off panel. The res is probably done by now. I love it when I have to eat my words.
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Jun 24, 2009 13:58
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Ha, S. Rogers. Looks like Heaven has some really good service.
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Ashenai posted:Not yet, I don't think. I've always said the Familicide spell was unequivocally Evil, but I think V is probably still Neutral. Just tending more and more towards Neutral Evil. Nah, there's nothing evil about killing dragons at all, especially black* ones. It's pretty easy to identify the evil as 'making a demon pact for power.' *lol racism
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oobey posted:Nah, there's nothing evil about killing dragons at all, especially black* ones. It's pretty easy to identify the evil as 'making a demon pact for power.' They were both evil deeds, but who cares, I'm not getting into an alignment debate.
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I love how you guys are so busy arguing about alignment that you didn't even consider the implications of the last panel.
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Cute touch with the "S. Rogers" sign, even though I feel way too nerdy for getting it.
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