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revolther posted:The one gripe I've had with Windows 7 is small but irritating, and only applies to laptops. Previously in Vista you could click your battery meter and get an option to change between 3 common power settings, High Performance/Balanced/Power Saver by default. Doesn't it show the last two setting you've used? If you only ever use High Performance and Power Saver, those should be the two it shows (and who ever uses balanced anyways?).
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I'm having a weird problem with my 5.1 surround sound speakers. I'm able to set it to 5.1 in the settings and test them and they work fine, but when I actually listen to music or play games, the rear speakers or center speakers don't work. Is this a common problem? Edit: Never mind I found the speaker fill option 
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What do people think about the usability of this on an older PC? My desktop is an Athlon XP (OC'd to 2Ghz) with 1GB of RAM and a Radeon 9800 Pro. I'm still rocking Windows XP and it works fine for my purposes. I don't play many new games - C&C3 Red Alert worked fine though if I played with the settings a bit.
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Namlemez posted:What do people think about the usability of this on an older PC? I suspect it will be fine. You may want to bump up the RAM if you could.
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WTFBEES posted:Doesn't it show the last two setting you've used? If you only ever use High Performance and Power Saver, those should be the two it shows (and who ever uses balanced anyways?).
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Jul 12, 2009 20:44
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Jul 12, 2009 20:48
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redeyes posted:I'm so unhappy with the Windows 7 pricing I am not buying it. I guess Vista will have to do. Unbelievable MS, you just hosed your best customers. There is a recession going on you stupid fucks. Microsoft has to do this bizarre balancing act between the home customers and their corporate customers and while I'm sure it's difficult they do a pretty lovely job of it. Having a bunch of silly versions doesn't help matters either.
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xamphear posted:Microsoft has to do this bizarre balancing act between the home customers and their corporate customers and while I'm sure it's difficult they do a pretty lovely job of it. Having a bunch of silly versions doesn't help matters either. IF you go to a consumer electronics store like Best Buy, you see Home Premium and Ultimate. If you go to a business electronics/supply store like OfficeMax you see Home Premium, Business, and Ultimate. Sometimes you see Home Basic at those places, though rarely. What's the problem with that? It's not like people actually go out and buy a new OS most of the time anyway, its mostly tech-savvy people who build their own computers who do that.
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Jul 12, 2009 22:41
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crap the 50% off ended  i missed out. gently caress
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dorkimoe posted:crap the 50% off ended Same as, mainly due to being confused to gently caress as to what is actually happening. MS site is saying order vista and get the upgrade version. Amazon isn't doing the discount (.co.uk), I don't know if they ever were. I can't be hosed to install vista to install 7. I'm on the RC. I have a couple of clients on XP and office 200, they want to come forward to 7/2007. Whats the best path for them. Why the gently caress can't I buy ultimate. Its retarded unnecessary hoop jumping. Excuse my frustration.
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url posted:Same as, mainly due to being confused to gently caress as to what is actually happening. The best path to get to 7 from XP is to buy the 7 upgrade and follow the clean install process. Beforehand, make sure you run the files and settings transfer wizard and have it save to a network or external drive, so that when they reinstall their apps they have most of their settings kept. It kinda sucks that you can't upgrade straight from XP to 7 but then again, it's been 8 years since XP came out. Windows 3.1 came out 9 years before XP, you can't directly upgrade from that. Windows 98 came out 9 years before Vista and you can't directly upgrade 98 to Vista. You don't need Ultimate in all likelihood, Windows 7 Pro includes all the stuff that Home Premium has, unlike Vista it's a true superset. If you still want to pay extra for Ultimate you'll have to jump through hoops to get it, but noone really needs it in the first place. edit: also, don't bother going to office 2007, office 2010 will be out soon enough. fishmech fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Jul 13, 2009 |
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fishmech posted:The best path to get to 7 from XP is to buy the 7 upgrade and follow the clean install process. Beforehand, make sure you run the files and settings transfer wizard and have it save to a network or external drive, so that when they reinstall their apps they have most of their settings kept. Cheers fishmech. Yeah the 3.1 -> xp analogy makes sense. I'm using the CTP for 2K10 and its great, but, i'm not sure the client's machine are up to the job. That said, I'll obviously push them towards it once I've tested its viability on their machines.
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fishmech posted:IF you go to a consumer electronics store like Best Buy, you see Home Premium and Ultimate. If you go to a business electronics/supply store like OfficeMax you see Home Premium, Business, and Ultimate. Sometimes you see Home Basic at those places, though rarely. As much as I hate Apple's dipshit propaganda, they do have a point about there being ONE version of OS X to buy, whereas MS has SIX (or whatever) versions of each Windows release. Wouldn't a version for home users and a version for business users be enough?
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Factor Mystic posted:"Every time"? How many times is that? My desktop has been running Vista from the first install I did in early 2007 when I got this copy of Vista. That's 1 install. That's all I needed. That's all anyone needs. Reinstalling every 6 months or whatever is something you had to do 10 years ago, not today. Hmm I dunno, I do it every year or so. But I've been running XP since it came out until the 7 RC came out. And actually now that you mention it, maybe I didn't really "need" to do it that often even.
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toxick posted:As much as I hate Apple's dipshit propaganda, they do have a point about there being ONE version of OS X to buy, whereas MS has SIX (or whatever) versions of each Windows release. Wouldn't a version for home users and a version for business users be enough? But that practically is all there is. Home Premium and Business/Pro are all the average person sees or uses. Noone sells Starter in the US, Home Basic practically only shows up on low-end computers that can't handle anything better, and Ultimate is basically the same thing as Plus! used to be, only incorporated into the OS instead of being a separate product. THe most versions of Windows you can reasonably expect to see on a shelf somewhere is 4: Home BAsic, Home Premium, Business, and Ultimate. And I think it's pretty obvious which is which, not to mention that most every store that sells windows has little booklets from Microsoft at the OS section that explain what the versions are, like they have for Office. And there's two versions of OS X, OS X and OS X Server.
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fishmech posted:But that practically is all there is. Home Premium and Business/Pro are all the average person sees or uses. Noone sells Starter in the US, Home Basic practically only shows up on low-end computers that can't handle anything better, and Ultimate is basically the same thing as Plus! used to be, only incorporated into the OS instead of being a separate product. THe most versions of Windows you can reasonably expect to see on a shelf somewhere is 4: Home BAsic, Home Premium, Business, and Ultimate. And I think it's pretty obvious which is which, not to mention that most every store that sells windows has little booklets from Microsoft at the OS section that explain what the versions are, like they have for Office. Home Basic is only going to be sold in emerging markets, from what I understand. Starter is only going to be available to OEMs making netbooks. Enterprise is only available for volume licensing for businesses. Ultimate's differences are only going to appeal to an extreme minority, and Microsoft is de-emphasizing it; the next version of Windows probably won't have an Ultimate version at all. The leaves you with Home Premium and Professional.
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fishmech posted:But that practically is all there is. Home Premium and Business/Pro are all the average person sees or uses. Noone sells Starter in the US, Home Basic practically only shows up on low-end computers that can't handle anything better, and Ultimate is basically the same thing as Plus! used to be, only incorporated into the OS instead of being a separate product. THe most versions of Windows you can reasonably expect to see on a shelf somewhere is 4: Home BAsic, Home Premium, Business, and Ultimate. And I think it's pretty obvious which is which, not to mention that most every store that sells windows has little booklets from Microsoft at the OS section that explain what the versions are, like they have for Office. OS X Server is not available to the general public at Best Buy. It's incredibly stupid and inconvenient to have so many different versions of Windows, they really should narrow it down to 2-3.
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fishmech posted:But that practically is all there is. Home Premium and Business/Pro are all the average person sees or uses. Noone sells Starter in the US, Home Basic practically only shows up on low-end computers that can't handle anything better, and Ultimate is basically the same thing as Plus! used to be, only incorporated into the OS instead of being a separate product. THe most versions of Windows you can reasonably expect to see on a shelf somewhere is 4: Home BAsic, Home Premium, Business, and Ultimate. And I think it's pretty obvious which is which, not to mention that most every store that sells windows has little booklets from Microsoft at the OS section that explain what the versions are, like they have for Office. Not only that, but Microsoft can't do what Apple does, which is use the money they make from selling the only hardware that can RUN their OS to lower the cost of their OS.
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1997 posted:OS X Server is not available to the general public at Best Buy. It's incredibly stupid and inconvenient to have so many different versions of Windows, they really should narrow it down to 2-3. If you go to BEst buy you can only get 2-3 versions of Windows already. Problem solved isn't it? IT's only terrible nerds online like you and me who give a gently caress about how many versions of Windows here are. XP had like 9 different versions.
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fishmech posted:XP had like 9 different versions. Home, Pro, Media Center and... 
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LooseChanj posted:Home, Pro, Media Center and... Windows XP Starter Edition, for new computer users in developing countries Windows XP Home Edition, for home desktops and laptops Windows XP Home Edition N, as above, but without a default installation of Windows Media Player, as mandated by an EU ruling Windows XP Professional, for business and power users (Version number: NT 5.1.2600) Windows XP Professional N, as above, but without a default installation of Windows Media Player, as mandated by an EU ruling Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, for PCs with x86-64 processors (based on Windows Server 2003) Windows XP Tablet PC Edition, for notebooks with a touch screen or a pen-sensitive screen Windows XP Media Center Edition for desktops and notebooks with an emphasis on audio, video, and PVR capability. There are four versions: o Windows XP Media Center Edition o Windows XP Media Center Edition 2003 o Windows XP Media Center Edition 2004 o Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 Windows XP 64-bit Edition
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These EU rulings are the biggest bullshit I've ever seen. Take out Internet Explorer? Well ok no problem. Only now theres no way to download an alternative browser... 
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Unexpected EOF posted:Windows XP Starter Edition, for new computer users in developing countries
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Xachariah posted:These EU rulings are the biggest bullshit I've ever seen. Take out Internet Explorer? Well ok no problem. Only now theres no way to download an alternative browser... Batch file on the desktop for the win 
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Xachariah posted:These EU rulings are the biggest bullshit I've ever seen. Take out Internet Explorer? Well ok no problem. Only now theres no way to download an alternative browser... Actually, that's not what the EU told Microsoft to do. They probably would have gone with MS bundling Opera and other browsers with 7, but Microsoft decided to have none of that and gently caress over everyone.
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fishmech posted:You forgot Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs and XP Embedded, both of which are XP. I forgot a lot of things. I didn't want to scan the wiki article for potential repeats.
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Mr. Fix It posted:Actually, that's not what the EU told Microsoft to do. They probably would have gone with MS bundling Opera and other browsers with 7, but Microsoft decided to have none of that and gently caress over everyone. There's really no legal basis to force one computer company to bundle someone else's product, in Europe or otherwise. That's why Microsoft decided to remove the browser in Europe.
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What's my best plan for putting 7 on a new computer? I didn't see that the RC was going to work with the 7 Upgrade until after the half-off deal went away. I'm thinking get OEM Vista Business http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116676 and get the upgrade coupon to 7 Pro. Is there anything wrong with my logic other than I'm going to be without Media Center for a few months?
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fishmech posted:There's really no legal basis to force one computer company to bundle someone else's product, in Europe or otherwise. That's why Microsoft decided to remove the browser in Europe. Isn't that for a judge to decide?
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fishmech posted:There's really no legal basis to force one computer company to bundle someone else's product, in Europe or otherwise. That's why Microsoft decided to remove the browser in Europe. But that makes people hate Microsoft more. They cut their nose off to spite their face. Now people in Europe have to jump through a bunch of hoops to put a browser on their computer. They wouldn't blame the EU for it, they'd just be pissed at Microsoft that their product needs hoop jumping to work. It's a terrible idea shipping an OS with no inbuilt way to download any browser at all. It's horrible business sense to choose nothing instead of offering alternatives.
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xamphear posted:Then when you multiply those by Retail, Volume, Upgrade and OEM, and then versions that integrated SP1, SP2 and SP3 there's probably over 100 different CDs that exist bearing the name XP. Truly magnificent. You know, that's probably the only new feature in Vista that everyone can agree on - having one 32-bit disc and one 64-bit disc makes everyone happy.
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everyone posted:EU browser poo poo Oh my godddddddd not this again Weedle fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Jul 13, 2009 |
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Mr. Fix It posted:Isn't that for a judge to decide? No, that's more of a legislative issue, particularly in the EU's system.
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Xachariah posted:But that makes people hate Microsoft more. They cut their nose off to spite their face. Now people in Europe have to jump through a bunch of hoops to put a browser on their computer. I like MS more for doing it. It's also horrible business sense to promote competitors products. It's quite as black and white as you seem to wish it was.
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Thermopyle posted:I like MS more for doing it. So do I. Opera are just being whiny babbys because Mozilla took "their market" while they were trying to charge for a browser.
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Xachariah posted:But that makes people hate Microsoft more. They cut their nose off to spite their face. Now people in Europe have to jump through a bunch of hoops to put a browser on their computer. Keep a copy of a Firefox/Opera install on a CD/USB drive? That's hardly a "bunch of hoops." Sure, it's impractical but really, it takes two minutes to download an installer and slap it on a USB drive before reinstalling your OS, and it's something you should always have on hand if you're moderately computer savvy (as with all the other apps you want to install after a format). As for OEM copies on pre-built computers: I really doubt people selling laptops and PCs would sell a product without an internet browser. They already install a bunch of shitware anyway, you bet your rear end they'll either include IE8 or get begged to include Opera by its devs. They wouldn't dare sell a product without internet access. Crumbletron fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jul 13, 2009 |
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fishmech posted:You don't need Ultimate in all likelihood, Windows 7 Pro includes all the stuff that Home Premium has, unlike Vista it's a true superset. If you still want to pay extra for Ultimate you'll have to jump through hoops to get it, but noone really needs it in the first place. But back to win 7, I want bitlocker to go, damnit. OEM ultimate looks to be the best enthusiast version.
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JESUS CHRIST WE ALREADY HAVE A THREAD FOR THIS poo poo. STOP loving UP THIS ONE!!!! edit: ^ This isn't directed at you ilkhan
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pokecapn posted:What's my best plan for putting 7 on a new computer? I didn't see that the RC was going to work with the 7 Upgrade until after the half-off deal went away. I'm thinking get OEM Vista Business http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116676 and get the upgrade coupon to 7 Pro. Is there anything wrong with my logic other than I'm going to be without Media Center for a few months? This doesn't seem any cheaper than just buying 7 Pro OEM (or upgrade) when it comes out. You'll have a full 4 months between when it goes on sale and when the RC expires.
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