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I'm not sure when it was dropped, but it is indeed true. He would ramble about reclaiming his birthright and whatnot in his promos against Hogan. I believe Bash at the Beach 1996 in particular had one these promos, but I don't think it lasted very far into the nWo era.
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Gordy posted:I spent an entire hour looking for them yesterday, couldn't find either of them, then found them both in the past 5 minutes. Here's Billzerosion's profile if anyone cares: http://www.youtube.com/user/billzeroism
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apsouthern posted:I was reading Big Show's entry in Kendo Nagasaki's Grapple Manual recently, and he mentions that when "The Giant" was introduced in WCW he has supposed to be Andre the Giant's son out for revenge. I'd never heard this before - is it true? And if so, how long did it last before it was dropped? From memory, yes it's true. He blamed Hogan for his "fathers" death. It don't think it lasted long at all.
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EvilMuppet posted:From memory, yes it's true. He blamed Hogan for his "fathers" death. It don't think it lasted long at all. It also led to a funny moment when the Giant joined the NWO, when Scott Hall asked if he was really Andre's son. Big Show looked really pissed and said "Don't go there".
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EvilMuppet posted:From memory, yes it's true. He blamed Hogan for his "fathers" death. It don't think it lasted long at all. God that whole thing was so stupid. They were filming something outside (maybe talking up Thunder in Paradise or something, I can't remember) and Giant walks up and throws a poofy white shirt at Hogan, shouting "REMEMBER THIS?!?" Apparently Andre's clothing was incredibly distinctive because Hogan knew immediately that that was ANDRE'S SHIRT, BROTHER. I think the Andre's Son bit only lasted for as long as he was in the Dungeon of Doom, once he was away from the circus they spun it into something less silly.
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TV's Nate posted:God that whole thing was so stupid. They were filming something outside (maybe talking up Thunder in Paradise or something, I can't remember) and Giant walks up and throws a poofy white shirt at Hogan, shouting "REMEMBER THIS?!?" Apparently Andre's clothing was incredibly distinctive because Hogan knew immediately that that was ANDRE'S SHIRT, BROTHER. It was Bash at the Beach 1995 and the shirt was his WWF one, I believe. This one http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Andre-T...p3286.m20.l1116
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I was watching Wrestlemania 18 and I am seriously disappointed that the Austin vs Hall feud ended that way it did: it just stopped. Why did you have to be a drunk bastard, Scott???? 
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So... do you want us to answer that question?
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Woops! Wondering if anyone felt the same way about the feud.
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I thought Austin had to be talked into it in the first place. Can't blame him too much, that was like getting stuck with the fat chick while Rock went home with her hot friend. I'm not trying to be creepy, that's just the best analogy I could think of.
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Supreme Allah posted:I thought Austin had to be talked into it in the first place. Can't blame him too much, that was like getting stuck with the fat chick while Rock went home with her hot friend. I'm not trying to be creepy, that's just the best analogy I could think of. Wasn't Nash supposed to face someone at WM18 too but pulled the, I'm sick/injured card?
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KungFu Grip posted:Wasn't Nash supposed to face someone at WM18 too but pulled the, I'm sick/injured card? Edit: Looked it up. He was in Hall's corner, basically making it a handicap match.
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LividLiquid posted:Nope. He did a run-in. Nash was set up as Hall's manager so that he could step in if Hall hadn't held off drinking till after Wrestlemania.
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"Look out! He's got a gun!" *Fires net*
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As with WCW, Vince killed the nWo and didn't let them get any heat at all and he did it almost right away.
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LividLiquid posted:As with WCW, Vince killed the nWo and didn't let them get any heat at all and he did it almost right away. Leaving the nWo with a lifetime victory/comeuppance ratio of 452,765 to 2.
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Jerusalem posted:Leaving the nWo with a lifetime victory/comeuppance ratio of 452,765 to 2. how DID the nwo die in wcw?
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grody but still def posted:how DID the nwo die in wcw?
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Jerusalem posted:Leaving the nWo with a lifetime victory/comeuppance ratio of 452,765 to 2.
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LividLiquid posted:While this is true, I don't see how it was good for business to bring in Hall, Nash and Hogan and not actually play the angle out. It was a victim of circumstance, Nash got injured, Hall got drunk(er) and Hogan hit the nostalgic revitalization zone and drunk deep of those heady waters.
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grody but still def posted:how DID the nwo die in wcw? The third one ended when Russo came back, and rebooted the company.
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I think the NWO's final death is incredibly apropos: Vince McMahon walking out and saying, "Yeah, I'm done with this", as if he was in control of it all along.
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Jerusalem posted:It was a victim of circumstance, Nash got injured, Hall got drunk(er) and Hogan hit the nostalgic revitalization zone and drunk deep of those heady waters.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:It was Bash at the Beach 1995 and the shirt was his WWF one, I believe. This one http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Andre-T...p3286.m20.l1116 Naw, it was just a white poofy-sleeved shirt that looked vaguely similar to what Andre wore in Princess Bride, and Hogan uses his keen shirt senses to deduce that it belonged to the twelve foot monster that he slammed through the earth's crust in front of ten million people. Actually, Andre probably threw his laundry at Hulk all the time back in the day, maybe that's what sparked his memory. Check it out, about 2:20 in. I must have seen that on a replay or something, I didn't remember it being on a PPV at all. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9pekg_07161995-the-giant-confronts-hogan_sport Afterwards, of course, Giant turned himself into a stone wall carving and waited for Kevin Sullivan to teleport the Hulkster into his lair. Andre probably had that in his will: "Toss my laundry at Hulk one last time then attack him in the strangest way possible." TV's Nate fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Aug 23, 2009 |
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Ugh my mind is failing me pretty badly right now, and I've tried googling it but can't find it. Who was that terrible guest commentator from some early 90's PPV who kept asking how much everyone weighed, and all around knew nothing about wrestling and I think even kept getting wrestlers names wrong? I remember him particularly in what I think was a Razor Ramon/Mr.Perfect match.
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Thorias posted:Ugh my mind is failing me pretty badly right now, and I've tried googling it but can't find it. Who was that terrible guest commentator from some early 90's PPV who kept asking how much everyone weighed, and all around knew nothing about wrestling and I think even kept getting wrestlers names wrong? I remember him particularly in what I think was a Razor Ramon/Mr.Perfect match. Art Donovan?
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TL posted:I think the NWO's final death is incredibly apropos: Vince McMahon walking out and saying, "Yeah, I'm done with this", as if he was in control of it all along. Vince should just do this with every failed angle. It'd be like The Gong Show. They'd have some segment, he'd come out and just say "Alright, get out of here, you're done."
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Captain Charisma posted:Vince should just do this with every failed angle. It'd be like The Gong Show. They'd have some segment, he'd come out and just say "Alright, get out of here, you're done."
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Yeah but I'm saying Vince should do it when it's clearly going nowhere, not years after the fact.
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I honestly, genuinely enjoyed when Eric Bischoff would come out all exasparated on RAW and say,"What are you doing? What is this? You're boring me! You're BORING ME! I'm giving you exactly.... 3 Minutes  .... to impress me."
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Jerusalem posted:I honestly, genuinely enjoyed when Eric Bischoff would come out all exasparated on RAW and say,"What are you doing? What is this? You're boring me! You're BORING ME! I'm giving you exactly.... 3 Minutes Three minute warning needs to come back.
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Jerusalem posted:I honestly, genuinely enjoyed when Eric Bischoff would come out all exasparated on RAW and say,"What are you doing? What is this? You're boring me! You're BORING ME! I'm giving you exactly.... 3 Minutes Add the fact that they were stiff as hell at first and you have that 3MW owned.
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nyratk1 posted:Add the fact that they were stiff as hell at first and you have that 3MW owned. I remember when they killed Mae Young and Moolah. My god that was kind of hard to watch.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7eO8mU2xNY Even in the phoney world of wrestling you wince at it aye
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So here's a question I've always been somewhat curious about. Does anyone know why the nWo said, 'Too sweet,' the way they did? I always thought it was something peculiar.
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During 1997 in the heated Canada vs. U.S. feud, there was that guy named the Patriot who wore an American Flag on his mask. But, I don't seem to remember him doing anything. Can someone tell me? Also, why did Brian Pillman join the Hart Foundation, other than he was a heel? And, I remember when Goldust became the Artist Formerly Known As Goldust, and he just wore weirder costumes. I have heard the reasoning for this change was that Vince was trying to take a shot at the high art community, but I don't understand why that would be. Plus, what did the Artist do during this time period in terms of feuds.
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Twin Cinema posted:During 1997 in the heated Canada vs. U.S. feud, there was that guy named the Patriot who wore an American Flag on his mask. But, I don't seem to remember him doing anything. Can someone tell me? Also, why did Brian Pillman join the Hart Foundation, other than he was a heel? The Patriot, real name Del Wilkes, was a gimmick that started win GWF in Texas. Vince thought it had potential, so he brought him in to the WWF. He sucked. Pillman joined the Hart Foundation because he was trained in the Hart Dungeon and started his career in Calgary. quote:And, I remember when Goldust became the Artist Formerly Known As Goldust, and he just wore weirder costumes. I have heard the reasoning for this change was that Vince was trying to take a shot at the high art community, but I don't understand why that would be. Plus, what did the Artist do during this time period in terms of feuds. Never heard that explaination. I think it was a combo of Russo being wacky, making a reference to Prince, and making him fit a Marilyn Manson gimmick. His main feuds were with Vader and Mark Mero, I think.
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Twin Cinema posted:During 1997 in the heated Canada vs. U.S. feud, there was that guy named the Patriot who wore an American Flag on his mask. But, I don't seem to remember him doing anything. Can someone tell me? Also, why did Brian Pillman join the Hart Foundation, other than he was a heel? The Patriot was poo poo. I think Pillman joined the Hart Foundation because of a mutual hatred of Austin but I could be wrong  e; i guess im wrong
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Twin Cinema posted:During 1997 in the heated Canada vs. U.S. feud, there was that guy named the Patriot who wore an American Flag on his mask. But, I don't seem to remember him doing anything. Can someone tell me? quote:Also, why did Brian Pillman join the Hart Foundation, other than he was a heel? quote:And, I remember when Goldust became the Artist Formerly Known As Goldust, and he just wore weirder costumes. I have heard the reasoning for this change was that Vince was trying to take a shot at the high art community, but I don't understand why that would be. Plus, what did the Artist do during this time period in terms of feuds.
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Thanks for all the info. My memories of 1997-1999 wrestling are so fragmented that I can only remember the wrestlers being on television, but I can't remember why they were there. For example, I remember the Oddities and all of their members (which, unfortunately, includes ICP), but I don't remember any of their main feuds or any match featuring them. Wikipedia tells me they feuded with Kaientai, but I don't remember that at all.
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