joozy posted:

moms looking for a corgi in the so cal area. i checked the breeder page in the OP and they are too far away and it doesnt look like there is any availability. does anyone know of any good breeders in the socal burbank/glendale area? im willing to drive!

joozy posted:

moms looking for a corgi in the so cal area. i checked the breeder page in the OP and they are too far away and it doesnt look like there is any availability. does anyone know of any good breeders in the socal burbank/glendale area? im willing to drive!

TheLoveliestRedhead posted:

I'll just tell you right now, Cardigans are where it's at.

I mean, look at this girl:



daww

Snuphaluphagus posted:

Kind of got a look to her, doesn't she?

TheLoveliestRedhead posted:

Snuphaluphagus posted:

That is an F-U face if I ever saw one... must have been a bad angle on the last pic.

TheLoveliestRedhead posted:

I'll just tell you right now, Cardigans are where it's at.

I mean, look at this girl:



daww

warwick5s posted:

let me show you them

warwick5s posted:

my corgis



let me show you them

warwick5s posted:

my corgis



let me show you them

paddiep posted:

HEY I know those two, they're the best corgis around!!

elf pr0n posted:

How do you keep your couch so clean

lu lu lu posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9YZpZAyU0g

Allison loves sucking head.

Original.Evil posted:

Sophie is 4 IIRC (and not that fat like the picture would make it), and has reared several good litters of puppies that we enjoyed adopting out to people we knew (both dogs are AKC certified, vet inspected, vaccinated, parents on premises, handled daily, etc).

Original.Evil posted:

Sophie is 4 IIRC (and not that fat like the picture would make it), and has reared several good litters of puppies that we enjoyed adopting out to people we knew (both dogs are AKC certified, vet inspected, vaccinated, parents on premises, handled daily, etc).

PI FAQ posted:

Finding a reputible breeder

This is a rather tricky one at times depending on the dog breed that you are looking to get, if you are looking to get a super popular breed then you can almost be assured that there are going to be people who are out there pumping out puppies for cash with no concern for the health of the animals.

The quickest way usually is to contact the local breed club for the specific breed that you are looking at to see if there is a breeder in your area. The national club would be the place that you would want to get the information about your local club, going to and searcing for " club of America" would bring up the club that you are looking for right away. It is entirely possible that you will not have a breeder close to you, one that is having puppies at that time or one that doesn't seem to be very reputible.

If you are still having problems finding a breeder or want to know if someone is reputible, post about it in Pet Island. You will have ALOT of people offering ALOT of information very fast and you will be able to make an informed decision. If you are looking for a breeder, it is possible that you have a PI regular living near you who knows someone in that breed or knows someone who knows someone. The more I get into the dog world the more I am finding out that it is a large family, it can be catty as hell at times but still a family.

The big 3 things that should scream at you about someone who is a Miller or a Back Yard Breeder (BYB) are:

1. Will not let you visit their kennels/home at all.
2. Are breeding non-championed dogs.
3. Their idea of health testing is "they have gone to the vet and gotten shots!"

Let's step through these points one by one as to why they are important.

First of all, #1, they won't let you visit their kennels/home. Would you want someone to come and see your kennels if you animals are all covered with their own poo poo and placed in cages small enough to make veal cattle enclosures seem spacious? While you might think that this is an exagerattion, it is unfortunately not. Millers put as little money as they can into maintaining the animals and attempt to get as much money out of them as they can through pumping out puppies.

Secondly, breeding non-championed dogs. You are thinking, why they hell would I want my dog to come from championed lineage? This isn't a showdog, it is a pet! When a dog is Championed that means that it has conformed to the standard enough to be recognized as a example of what the breed should look like. Why is this important? The standard for the animal describes everything: behavior, body mass, body structure, size, etc. A non-standard animal can have problems in any of those area's, but usually you see problems in behavior/tempurment and body structure with Mill bred dogs. If that doesn't seem that bad, imagine playing $2500/hip for a dog with hip dysplasia. While it is possible for your reputible breeders dog to have this possible, the chances will be lower given the stringent breeding research that is done.

Lastly, health testing, given the vast array of genetic problems that can happen with any dog just "taking them to the vet for shots and a couple of pokes" isn't going to be enough. There are genetic problems that are specific to certain dog breeds that need to be checked for; dysplasia, liver, thyroid, etc. While the shots are extremely important at a young age, checking the pups for genetic problems is important as well. Especially since if they aren't checking the pups, they aren't checking the parents and could be breeding two high probable displasic dogs together. There is alot more that goes into breeding dogs than throwing two dogs in a room and watching them rut.

While you might think that you are rescuing an animal from these conditions, I can assure you that you are most certainly not. Every dog that you remove is replaced by another and all you have done is given them more cash to operate with.

A reputible breeder will do most if not all of the following.

- Will want you to come and visit the kennel, they would like you to come and see their dogs and talk with them about what your plans with the dog are. - Will provide you with the pedigree of the dog, including showing the papers of their dogs.
- Will talk about the championships and titles that their dogs have obtained. - Will discuss the health testing and number of vet visits that their animals have obtained.
- Will discuss the health concerns that the breed has, hip/elbow issues, heart/liver problems, etc. Which relates back to the previous point. - Will require you to have a vet ready to go back home so that you can get the dog checked out upon return to your house.
- Will require a contract with the dog that will place the dogs interests above your own. What this means is that they will require the dog to be spayed/neutered and will put a clause in the contract that if you have to get rid of the dog for any reason that you will give it back to the breeder. There are usually clauses in there for the removal of the dog from a bad home, sometimes they are unusually broad though so make sure about what you are reading. If you are getting a show dog, breeding specifications will be built into the contract as well.
- Will place the dog on a limited registration, this means that the animal will not be able to register any puppies which would issue from it. Full registration is reserved for show animals that will be used to continue the line.

Now, if this information isn't offered up you should ask about it. All of it. Things to look out for:

- A breeder more concerned if you are able to pay for the dog than if you are right for the dog. A monetary concern leans heavily towards breeding for cash rather than the betterment of the breed which is what a good breeder should be doing.
- A breeder that will not allow you to visit the kennels and insists on meeting at a site that is "neutral". This rings puppy mill like no ones buisness. They don't want you to see where the dogs are from because you will flee in horror from the conditions that they keep their animals in.
- A breeder that doesn't require you to spay or neuter your pet quality pet. This tells you that they really don't care about what you do with the animal, more specifically they don't care if you start up your own breeding buisness. Because the more the merrier, right?
- A breeder that cannot show you a pedigree or is breeding non-championed animals. This person is not breeding for any reason other than to make dogs, they don't want to ensure that their animals conform to the standard for the breed. In fact, their animals are most likely so far out of standard that they wouldn't be able to show them, even if they were registered. A side note on breeding non-championed animals to championed animals, it is possible that the non-championed dog was pointed before something happened that caused it to be unable to finish. This would be a question to be very specific about, if the dog was on a roll and getting points and had a major under their belt but then was hit by a car persay and cannot be shown. It might be possible that they were breeding from expected future performance. But, this is still a very questionable practice.

Original.Evil posted:

Sophie is 4 IIRC (and not that fat like the picture would make it), and has reared several good litters of puppies that we enjoyed adopting out to people we knew (both dogs are AKC certified, vet inspected, vaccinated, parents on premises, handled daily, etc).

notsoape posted:

If you breed a litter, the people who receive the puppies are 'buying them' not adopting them. Hope this helps.

Unless you actually use your corgis for herding livestock on a daily basis, and sell puppies to people who also use the dogs for a working purpose, you and your family are big ol' bybs. Congratulations on contributing to the pet over population problem. Have your corgis been hip/knee/eye tested? I'm guessing not!

Also; for a bitch to have had 'several litters' by the time she's 4 is loving gross. Spay your poor bitch.


Edit: Oh awesome that quote from the PI faq doesn't mention working ability at all, and is full of misinformation as to what a Champion title actually means. Nice.

notsoape posted:

There is already a bookmarked post for people to post pictures of their pets with no discussion. If somebody wants to brag about their lousy breeding practices in the rest of the forum, they should be prepared to encounter some criticism/discussion about it. If not, then they are dumb and didn't read the faq.

Look at the bunny thread, rat thread, pibble thread etc. If somebody posts in those threads and reveal their lovely husbandry regarding bunnies/rats/pibbles, they are called out on it. Often by more than one person! It doesn't stop those threads from also featuring cute pictures of bunnies, rats and pit bulls.

elf pr0n posted:

Yeah, she's a lot skinnier now.

TheLoveliestRedhead posted:

No hard feelings, please.

TheLoveliestRedhead posted:

I don't think anyone had commented on this. I love this picture. It has an artsy feel to it.

I Love You! posted:

elf pr0n is known for an artistic flair, a true muse of anime (dogs).

elf pr0n posted:

My dog is an anime super star

elf pr0n posted:

My dog is an anime super star

Miss Indy posted:

More corgis, yes? Zeke is a superstar swimmer!



We also just found out that one of his molars has a bad slab fracture and will need to come out next week. Poor dude

Miss Indy posted:

More corgis, yes? Zeke is a superstar swimmer!



We also just found out that one of his molars has a bad slab fracture and will need to come out next week. Poor dude