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STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

Jerusalem posted:

Didn't the Oklahoma thing start with Oklahoma claiming that the women were all crap and that even a fat sack of poo poo like him could beat them, and end with his BEATING the women's champion in a match and afterwards they all ganged up and poured mustard on him, thus proving that he was incorrect in his claim that a fat sack of poo poo like him could beat them..... as long as you paid no attention to the fact a fat sack of poo poo like him did beat them....?

actually, it was for the cruiserweight belt, not the women's belt

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

grody but still def posted:

actually, it was for the cruiserweight belt, not the women's belt

He beat a woman for it though, didn't he? I'm positive I remember that.

Rusty Shackelford
Feb 7, 2005

Jerusalem posted:

He beat a woman for it though, didn't he? I'm positive I remember that.

Yes, Madusa.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Rusty Shackelford posted:

Yes, Madusa.

Who won it by kissing her opponent who was so shocked by the occurance that he flopped to the mat where he was covered for 3, all the time the idiot announcers saying 'he lost the title, but he won what was truely important.'

Justice Grieves
Feb 26, 2007
If I must die, I shall welcome Death as an old friend, and wrap mine arms about it.
Near-death WCW was DEFINED by poo poo like that. You have 15 luchadors, and you have a fat man and a woman fight over the cruiserweight title.

Cordialatron
Jun 28, 2004

I know I'm some kind of interplanetary agent but I don't think my signals are decoding properly.

Justice Grieves posted:

Near-death WCW was DEFINED by poo poo like that. You have 15 luchadors, and you have a fat man and a woman fight over the cruiserweight title.

Daffney also was cruiserweight champion at some point.

Now that all this awful Oklahoma stuff is coming to mind, why was Jerry Only in WCW at all? Especially winning matches against actual wrestlers. I guess they wanted that crucial "people who like the 1999 incarnation of The Misfits" demographic.

Brickhouse Betty
Sep 11, 2001

Well well well

Cordialatron posted:

Daffney also was cruiserweight champion at some point.

Now that all this awful Oklahoma stuff is coming to mind, why was Jerry Only in WCW at all? Especially winning matches against actual wrestlers. I guess they wanted that crucial "people who like the 1999 incarnation of The Misfits" demographic.

Because Jerry Only will go anywhere and do anything and slap the Misfits logo all over for money. And he probably costs about %2 of what KISS cost.

Rusty Shackelford
Feb 7, 2005

Brickhouse Betty posted:

Because Jerry Only will go anywhere and do anything and slap the Misfits logo all over for money. And he probably costs about %2 of what KISS cost.

And probably .5% of what the No Limit Soldiers cost.

Cordialatron
Jun 28, 2004

I know I'm some kind of interplanetary agent but I don't think my signals are decoding properly.

Brickhouse Betty posted:

Because Jerry Only will go anywhere and do anything and slap the Misfits logo all over for money. And he probably costs about %2 of what KISS cost.

yesssssssss an excuse to post this:

http://dugout.progressiveboink.com/archive/dugout12-8-05.htm

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008

Cordialatron posted:

yesssssssss an excuse to post this:

http://dugout.progressiveboink.com/archive/dugout12-8-05.htm

Funny enough The KISS Demon got ripped apart in WWE Magazine in the section where they mock old/jobber gimmicks and attires. So you know what happens? Dale Torborg shows up at the WWE Magazine headquarters to talk to them about it.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Edit: poo poo, I was beaten because I didn't realize there was another page. And I so thought I was going to point out WCW 99-2000 idiocy first :(

Deranged Hermit
Nov 10, 2004

by Tiny Fistpump

KungFu Grip posted:

Funny enough The KISS Demon got ripped apart in WWE Magazine in the section where they mock old/jobber gimmicks and attires. So you know what happens? Dale Torborg shows up at the WWE Magazine headquarters to talk to them about it.

He fought Antonio Alfonseca because El Pulpo made fun of him formerly being a wrestler.

The Croc
Dec 19, 2004

A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird!

OH YEAH!



The best thing in near death wcw was the pianist the wrestler who used to play a loving piano and be winched down from the rafters while doing so.

I think torrie wilson was his valet at first.

Deranged Hermit
Nov 10, 2004

by Tiny Fistpump

The Croc posted:

The best thing in near death wcw was the pianist the wrestler who used to play a loving piano and be winched down from the rafters while doing so.

I think torrie wilson was his valet at first.

No, it was better. Ryan Shamrock.

slap me

reality_groove
Dec 27, 2007

That was the Maestro right? I remember him feuding with Ernest Miller about whether Miller could bring James Brown to WCW. Then James Brown showed up out of the blue on PPV and everyone danced.

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

I hate the mods I hate the mods I hate the mods! I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS! Hey wait a minute why do the mods hate me I'm contributing to the conversation I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HA

reality_groove posted:

That was the Maestro right? I remember him feuding with Ernest Miller about whether Miller could bring James Brown to WCW. Then James Brown showed up out of the blue on PPV and everyone danced.

This being WCW they spent hundreds of thousands on getting James Brown to show up and then didn't bother promoting that he would show up because nobody thought that he would.

The Croc
Dec 19, 2004

A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird!

OH YEAH!



So in assesing my post I got the wrestler name wrong and the valet wrong.

I suck :(

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

The Croc posted:

So in assesing my post I got the wrestler name wrong and the valet wrong.

I suck :(

You wouldn't be wrong in thinking that a character who was around the same time as Vince Russo would have probably been named The Pianist and everyone would snicker how that sounds like penis.

The Croc
Dec 19, 2004

A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird!

OH YEAH!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLGd2WNAw5U

well i found a match with him and The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea who was another wtf wcw idea.

Zack_Gochuck
Jan 4, 2007

Stupid Wrestling People

Moose Bigelow posted:

This being WCW they spent hundreds of thousands on getting James Brown to show up and then didn't bother promoting that he would show up because nobody thought that he would.

Didn't WCW also throw wads of cash at the Maestro because he owned the rights to the "Gorgeous George" name, and Macho Man's pornstar girlfriend wanted to use the name "Gorgeous George?"

Zack_Gochuck fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Oct 2, 2009

The Croc
Dec 19, 2004

A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird!

OH YEAH!



Wikipedia (the only real source for accurate facts) mentions something about a complaint around it so yeah they probably did throw piles and piles of cash at him.

Psychlone
Sep 3, 2004

It's never straight up and down!

KungFu Grip posted:

Funny enough The KISS Demon got ripped apart in WWE Magazine in the section where they mock old/jobber gimmicks and attires. So you know what happens? Dale Torborg shows up at the WWE Magazine headquarters to talk to them about it.

I remember watching the KISS Demon on WCW Saturday and didn't think he was that bad. He wasn't great, but he looked intimidating and could work a decent 5-10 minute match. I don't get the hate for the character, other than it was commercialized and hokey. But that's what KISS is.

Pneub
Mar 12, 2007

I'M THE DEVIL, AND I WILL WASH OVER THE EARTH AND THE SEAS WILL RUN RED WITH THE BLOOD OF ALL THE SINNERS

I AM REBORN

Psychlone posted:

I remember watching the KISS Demon on WCW Saturday and didn't think he was that bad. He wasn't great, but he looked intimidating and could work a decent 5-10 minute match. I don't get the hate for the character, other than it was commercialized and hokey. But that's what KISS is.

I think if they yould have just called him the "The Demon" and let the KISS connection speak for itself, the giant TM tatooed on his forehead wouldn't have bugged people as much.

nyratk1
Jul 24, 2006

by Tiny Fistpump

Magic_Ceiling_Fan posted:

Didn't WCW also throw wads of cash at the Maestro because he owned the rights to the "Gorgeous George" name, and Macho Man's pornstar girlfriend wanted to use the name "Gorgeous George?"

Apparently Randy Savage originally wanted to get the "Gorgeous George" gimmick for his brother. That would have been amazing.

Dragging Iron Feet
Nov 10, 2007

by T. Finn

nyratk1 posted:

Apparently Randy Savage originally wanted to get the "Gorgeous George" gimmick for his brother. That would have been amazing.
WCW paid Lanny Poffo something like $250000 a year and didn't use him once. Best job ever.

nyratk1
Jul 24, 2006

by Tiny Fistpump

Dragging Iron Feet posted:

WCW paid Lanny Poffo something like $250000 a year and didn't use him once. Best job ever.

Lanny Poffo truly is a genius. :smug:

El Axo Grande
Apr 2, 2005

by T. Finn

The Croc posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLGd2WNAw5U

well i found a match with him and The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea who was another wtf wcw idea.

Its like a Rob Conway entrance that never ends

LastAngryMuppet
Feb 21, 2005
I Put Out
I was watching the Best of Smackdown DVD and after watching the Vince promo I was wondering: did someone use the quote "Life sucks, and then you diiiiiie" before their entrance music? It sounds so familiar but I can't place it. Also, I may be making it up.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Didn't the Jackal (Cyrus on ECW, I think?) also get lowered down from the rafters playing a piano?

Grant DaNasty
Jul 17, 2006

Jerusalem posted:

Didn't the Jackal (Cyrus on ECW, I think?) also get lowered down from the rafters playing a piano?

I can't imagine ECW affording a piano, let alone the means to lower it from the rafters.

My favorite Maestro moment was when he debuted. There was a match going on in the ring, the commentators were talking about the main event, and then out of nowhere this man playing a piano was lowered from the rafters. They went to commercials without the commentators mentioning it once.

VVVV Ahh, I misread. VVVV

Grant DaNasty fucked around with this message at 10:51 on Oct 3, 2009

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Grant DaNasty posted:

I can't imagine ECW affording a piano, let alone the means to lower it from the rafters.

No, I mean when he was Jackal in WWE, in charge of The Truth Commission.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Jerusalem posted:

Didn't the Jackal (Cyrus on ECW, I think?) also get lowered down from the rafters playing a piano?

Pulpit.

Incendiary Pig
Nov 3, 2006

Totally out of control
So what was the whole story behind Mr. America? Did everyone know that Hogan was Mr. America? Was Mr. America supposed to be like a total gimmick change for Hogan?

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

I hate the mods I hate the mods I hate the mods! I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS! Hey wait a minute why do the mods hate me I'm contributing to the conversation I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HA

Incendiary Pig posted:

So what was the whole story behind Mr. America? Did everyone know that Hogan was Mr. America? Was Mr. America supposed to be like a total gimmick change for Hogan?

HULK HOGAN WAS MISTER AMERICA? :psyduck:

PeteRoseHaircut
May 17, 2008

Thank you, Toronto!

Incendiary Pig posted:

So what was the whole story behind Mr. America? Did everyone know that Hogan was Mr. America? Was Mr. America supposed to be like a total gimmick change for Hogan?

That lie detector bit was one of the worst things I've ever seen.

Rousimar Pauladeen
Feb 27, 2007

I hate the mods I hate the mods I hate the mods! I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS! Hey wait a minute why do the mods hate me I'm contributing to the conversation I HATE THE MODS I HATE THE MODS I HA

PeteRoseHaircut posted:

That lie detector bit was one of the worst things I've ever seen.

That lie detector bit was awesome just for Scott Keith hating it and then loving it when someone pointed out to him it was from the Simpsons who shot mr burns episode.

Cordialatron
Jun 28, 2004

I know I'm some kind of interplanetary agent but I don't think my signals are decoding properly.

The Croc posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLGd2WNAw5U

well i found a match with him and The Artist Formerly Known as Prince Iaukea who was another wtf wcw idea.

This is the most amazing thing I've ever seen. From the Jimmy Hart knockoff of Purple Rain to whatever the gently caress the Maestro is to the fact this match was the beginning of a Nitro.

And then Jeff Jarrett shows up and ruins it.

Pneub
Mar 12, 2007

I'M THE DEVIL, AND I WILL WASH OVER THE EARTH AND THE SEAS WILL RUN RED WITH THE BLOOD OF ALL THE SINNERS

I AM REBORN

Incendiary Pig posted:

So what was the whole story behind Mr. America? Did everyone know that Hogan was Mr. America? Was Mr. America supposed to be like a total gimmick change for Hogan?

I was pretty much meant as a joke after a point, they didn't really try to hide who it was.

Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!



Pneub posted:

I was pretty much meant as a joke after a point, they didn't really try to hide who it was.

Didn't he cut a promo on Vince along the lines of "I'm not Hulk Hogan, brother, but let me tell you something, brother, whatchoo gonna do when... uh... Americamania runs wild on you, brother!"?

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apsouthern
May 24, 2007

Chain Gang Soldier

Umbra Dubium posted:

Didn't he cut a promo on Vince along the lines of "I'm not Hulk Hogan, brother, but let me tell you something, brother, whatchoo gonna do when... uh... Americamania runs wild on you, brother!"?

Promo on Vince : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFLWZEHEoYc
Lie Detector : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz0RZrMoSWQ

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