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In Vista, I just ran under the Admin account because even running as a regular account set Admin caused weird issues. Does Win7 have the same problems?
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Party pack just arrived. gently caress yeah! Tote bags!
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Oct 8, 2009 01:06
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Plaque Conspiracy posted:Party pack just arrived. gently caress yeah! Tote bags! Just got mine too. gently caress yeah! Party streamers! It's pretty cool really. Even has Windows 7 napkins.
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Oct 8, 2009 02:13
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I ordered the Windows 7 Professional Edition Upgrade from Win 741. Yay $30 Win 7! Can I install using one of the MSDN RTM Win 7 disks now and activate on 10/22 when I receive the key? I have a legit 64 bit version of Vista Ultimate now. Or are those disks only for the "Retail" license and not the "Upgrade" license? So basically, if I install Win 7 now, do I have to reinstall when my key arrives or can I just type it in?
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Oct 8, 2009 03:32
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INTJ Mastermind posted:So basically, if I install Win 7 now, do I have to reinstall when my key arrives or can I just type it in? Lord Commissar posted:In Vista, I just ran under the Admin account because even running as a regular account set Admin caused weird issues.
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Oct 8, 2009 03:44
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Lord Commissar posted:In Vista, I just ran under the Admin account because even running as a regular account set Admin caused weird issues. You're doing it wrong. There was no such issue with Vista. Windows 7 works the same as Vista. If anything, versions of Windows released before Vista had issues. Vista's UAC and account auto-elevation fixed all the crap that earlier versions of Windows suffered from in regards to account access.
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Oct 8, 2009 03:46
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Swilo posted:Define "weird issues" because what you're doing is a huge security risk. I'm going to strike with an early guess of: UAC prompts.
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Oct 8, 2009 03:47
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AlexDeGruven posted:I'm going to strike with an early guess of: UAC prompts. Under Vista, regular users and Admins should see the same number of prompts. Under Windows 7, admins will see a bit less.
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Oct 8, 2009 03:49
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For the first 5 minutes of using 7, I got pissed at UAC for bothering me every time I did something. Then, I realized that I'd run into so many problems trying to get XP to work the way I wanted (admin account) thanks to programs doing whatever the gently caress they wanted. It's worth the 2 seconds it takes to click when I can stop poo poo that I normally wouldn't know about. Hell, I even bumped it up to max security just to get more of the messages.
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Oct 8, 2009 03:53
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Joe Don Baker posted:Just got mine too. gently caress yeah! Party streamers! I got an email a few days ago saying to expect a tracking number soon, but nothing since. No fair 
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Oct 8, 2009 05:32
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quadratic posted:I got an email a few days ago saying to expect a tracking number soon, but nothing since. No fair Balloons too. And some decent discounts on Nero stuff if that matters to you. And a deck of cards and a puzzle and a poster oh my!
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Oct 8, 2009 05:41
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Have any sites done a major breakdown in the differences between the various versions of 7? Everybody knows about the large differences between the versions, but sometimes the small stuff can be a deal maker/breaker as well. I don't want another repeat of XP where they listed all the major changes between Home and Professional, and then a lot of Home users felt burned later when they didn't get access to minor, but extremely useful, functions like the group policy editor.
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Oct 8, 2009 06:24
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Have any sites done a major breakdown in the differences between the various versions of 7? Everybody knows about the large differences between the versions, but sometimes the small stuff can be a deal maker/breaker as well.
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Oct 8, 2009 06:49
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Xenomorph posted:Vista's UAC and account auto-elevation fixed all the crap that earlier versions of Windows suffered from in regards to account access. I'm dealing right now with a problem where I need to start a process with elevated rights from within powershell. Any ideas how to do this in a non-retarded way?
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Oct 8, 2009 07:00
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Plaque Conspiracy posted:Party pack just arrived. gently caress yeah! Tote bags! Just got mine too... Win7 installed, and it runs great. And the tote bags are kinda cool too for packing lunches for work and stuff.
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Oct 8, 2009 07:01
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Someone take pictures of these tote bags, I want to see what they look like and maybe beg for one.
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Oct 8, 2009 08:10
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Small question, although not likely anyone will know until actual release. I got windows 7 professional from my school (private license, not a VLK) and am curious if I'll be able to use the windows anytime upgrade or whatever to just pay the difference (20 bucks) to upgrade to ultimate, or if it won't be available due to something configured differently in the software. Maybe I should try and install off the RTM ISO instead of the one they provided with my key and see if it's interchangeable. On a side note, a few questions about the anytime upgrade (assuming it's the same as vista, which I don't have). When you buy it, you can only immediately upgrade in-place on the computer you just bought it on? So if I have it installed to my two desktops and laptop, I'd need to buy it three times? Or does it give you a new (ultimate) key or upgrade your old key that you could just install off an ultimate edition ISO with? Or, is there any way to actually have a disc mailed to you after you purchase an upgraded version?
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Oct 8, 2009 08:27
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Anytime upgrade isn't available at the moment (says to check back on the 22nd) so I don't know for sure. But on the first screen it says to either choose a version you want, or enter an upgrade key. I am assuming the second one means you go buy an upgrade edition somewhere and enter the key and it works. The first option says windows will upgrade automatically, so you probably have to do the anytime upgrade for each machine. And why wouldn't you need to buy it three times? One key is good for one computer, so if you want to upgrade three machines, you need to upgrade three times.
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Oct 8, 2009 09:05
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Is there an equivalent to Bootvis that works on Windows 7? I tried running Bootvis and it won't work as it's made for XP.
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Oct 8, 2009 10:03
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I made the switch to 7 a couple days ago and I still can't figure out the big deal about the new taskbar. Seems to me it's exactly like the old bar, only instead of text you have icons. Can anyone please explain why this is better?
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Oct 8, 2009 11:43
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Swilo posted:Define "weird issues" because what you're doing is a huge security risk.  Xenomorph posted:You're doing it wrong. It's not UAC, I can turn them off, but frankly they don't bother me. The problems I had were that some programs needed to be run as admin, and even though my account was an admin account, it didn't work. Even if I used "Run as Administrator". It was a while ago so I don't remember specifics, unfortunately, but I remember it being an issue for me.
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Oct 8, 2009 12:03
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Kleptomaniac posted:I made the switch to 7 a couple days ago and I still can't figure out the big deal about the new taskbar. Seems to me it's exactly like the old bar, only instead of text you have icons. Can anyone please explain why this is better? Well, for one thing, you can pin programs to the bar, and then open them right from the bar without having to use the Start menu.
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Oct 8, 2009 12:53
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Lord Commissar posted:
I'm actually having a similar problem. The Blackberry Desktop Manager has a function that needs to be run as Admin to work. Thing is, if I run the program as admin, it can't find my Blackberry. It's not critical, but it is frustrating. I'm sure there's some command you can add to the shortcut to get it working right, I just don't know what. E:^^^ Pin to Taskbar is a great feature. It brings Windows more in line with OSX, and setting it as icon only is great. That and Aero Peek have streamlined the taskbar, making it quite user friendly. ^^^ The Gasmask fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Oct 8, 2009 |
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Oct 8, 2009 13:06
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Cerri posted:Well, for one thing, you can pin programs to the bar, and then open them right from the bar without having to use the Start menu. So it's quick launch.
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Oct 8, 2009 13:19
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Kleptomaniac posted:So it's quick launch. It's more like OSX dock.
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Oct 8, 2009 13:24
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Sad Panda posted:Is there an equivalent to Bootvis that works on Windows 7? I tried running Bootvis and it won't work as it's made for XP. There's no need to run anything like bootvis under Vista/7.
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Oct 8, 2009 13:26
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Sad Panda posted:Is there an equivalent to Bootvis that works on Windows 7? I tried running Bootvis and it won't work as it's made for XP. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/performance/default.aspx It provides some of the same graphical logs of boot but the majority of optimizations are built into vista/7 and it adjusts on the fly. Just use it to see if a driver is causing a delay so you can update it to see if it fixes it.
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Oct 8, 2009 13:48
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Lord Commissar posted:
You'd probably be best off sticking with windows xp, rather than finding software that works with the security model that every modern OS uses.
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Oct 8, 2009 15:38
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Something new I learned about at the launch event yesterday: Problem Steps Recorder. Holy Crap! This is the awesomest tool ever when it comes to support. Since users typically seem incapable of forming complete and coherent descriptions of problems outside of "It doesn't work!", PSR allows us to have them try exactly what they want to do, and records every keystroke, mouse click, and screen image of the entire process. To use it: Have user click start, type "psr", enter Have user click 'Start Recording' on the PSR tool. Have user attempt the problem activity. Have user click 'Stop Recording' on the PSR tool. Have user e-mail you (or access it through the administrative share, for that matter) the resulting zip file. Great stuff.
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Oct 8, 2009 16:04
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200th Poster posted:You'd probably be best off sticking with windows xp, rather than finding software that works with the security model that every modern OS uses. If you weren't busy being so snarky, you might have noticed someone else had the same issue with their Blackberry software. Surely, Blackberry software is ancient and archaic, right?
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Oct 8, 2009 16:14
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The Gasmask posted:For the first 5 minutes of using 7, I got pissed at UAC for bothering me every time I did something. Then, I realized that I'd run into so many problems trying to get XP to work the way I wanted (admin account) thanks to programs doing whatever the gently caress they wanted. It's worth the 2 seconds it takes to click when I can stop poo poo that I normally wouldn't know about. Hell, I even bumped it up to max security just to get more of the messages. I like the way you think. 200th Poster posted:You'd probably be best off sticking with windows xp, rather than finding software that works with the security model that every modern OS uses. O SNAP.
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Oct 8, 2009 16:17
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Lord Commissar posted:It's not UAC, I can turn them off, but frankly they don't bother me. The problems I had were that some programs needed to be run as admin, and even though my account was an admin account, it didn't work. Even if I used "Run as Administrator". So you're asking us if Windows 7 still has problems, the details of which you don't quite remember. Ummm... no?
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Oct 8, 2009 16:18
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Tequila25 posted:So you're asking us if Windows 7 still has problems, the details of which you don't quite remember. I just don't remember which specific programs had the problem. I think Steam had an issue at one point, but it may have been patched by now. The Gasmask had the same problem with Blackberry software. It seems like an access problem, and 'Run as Administrator' doesn't fix it.
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Oct 8, 2009 16:19
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Kleptomaniac posted:So it's quick launch. It's basically quick launch combined with the taskbar. Lord Commissar posted:I just don't remember which specific programs had the problem. I think Steam had an issue at one point, but it may have been patched by now. The Gasmask had the same problem with Blackberry software. Well, Steam works great now. I've only had a few problems and most of those have to do with the x64 version's insistence on signed drivers. Crysis 64 has to be run in vista compatibility mode. ATITool doesn't work without disabling driver signatures. I imagine that most hardware modification utilites will need this too. XBCD for my homebrew xbox adapter doesn't work without disabling driver signatures. Tequila25 fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Oct 8, 2009 |
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Oct 8, 2009 16:24
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Lord Commissar posted:If you weren't busy being so snarky, you might have noticed someone else had the same issue with their Blackberry software. Surely, Blackberry software is ancient and archaic, right? Nokia can make a PC suite that works with modern operating systems. Why can't RIM?
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Oct 8, 2009 16:28
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Tequila25 posted:It's basically quick launch combined with the taskbar. It's the Microsoft Dock. Just call it the Dock. It works like the Apple Dock. Quick Launch is just buttons. Just shortcuts to a program. "Pin to Taskbar" puts the program icon on the Dock. When running, the program "lives" in that Dock icon the same way it operates if it were in the Dock under Mac OS X. Complete with graphical indicators telling you which Dock icons are running. If you right-click on an item in Quick Launch, you have file-operations for that LNK file. Delete it, rename it, etc. Just like a regular file. If you right-click on an item Pinned to the Tray/Dock, you can control functions in that application (like right clicking a running program on the Task Bar). New Windows 7 features may be on the Dock icon, and you can get a live preview/Aero peek thing going on with the Dock icon. You can't do any of that with just a "Quick Launch" icon.
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Oct 8, 2009 16:33
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I use my start menu in Vista to access all my programs. I use the Games menu to run games, the frequently-used programs list that takes up most of the start menu to access my common programs, and the pinned list above it for a few that aren't frequent use, but I like easy access to. (I never go into program files because it's a mess.) Does the dock replace this?
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Oct 8, 2009 16:38
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The Gasmask posted:I'm actually having a similar problem. The Blackberry Desktop Manager has a function that needs to be run as Admin to work. Thing is, if I run the program as admin, it can't find my Blackberry. It's not critical, but it is frustrating. I'm sure there's some command you can add to the shortcut to get it working right, I just don't know what. What version of the Blackberry Desktop Manager are you using? Xenomorph posted:It's the Microsoft Dock. Just call it the Dock. It works like the Apple Dock. I know, but not everyone has used a Mac recently, so I was trying to think of a more PC-centric explanation. Plus, I didn't want to say outright that Microsoft is ripping off more features from the Mac.
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Oct 8, 2009 16:41
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Tequila25 posted:I know, but not everyone has used a Mac recently, so I was trying to think of a more PC-centric explanation. Plus, I didn't want to say outright that Microsoft is ripping off more features from the Mac. who gives a poo poo they're not new ideas, everything in ui design is old
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Lord Commissar posted:If you weren't busy being so snarky, you might have noticed someone else had the same issue with their Blackberry software. Surely, Blackberry software is ancient and archaic, right? I would say that Blackberry software is exactly that. Ancient and archaic. My only experience is running BES though.
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