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I just finished installing 7 Home Premium (pre-ordered it with student email address before realizing that Professional was the same price, gently caress), Adobe CS4, MS Office 2003, DC++, uTorrent, VLC, ect. etc., and then I started wondering... what are the differences between the RC and the RTM, or are there any noticeable differences? Google searches came up with nothing but "just bug fixes, it won't start shutting down on 3/1/2010 hurr". All I noticed is that the start icon is a bit shinier than it was, but are there any other visible differences?
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Oct 23, 2009 06:34
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bull3964 posted:That's far from true. As mentioned many times in this thread you can 'upgrade' your currently installed window 7 install anytime you want a fresh install. Tell me more about imaging my install. "Upgrading" your current install assumes your current install's drive is intact. I am not down with digging out a 10 year old XP CD when I put in a new HDD. e: I know what I'm looking for is probably in the thread but Christ it's 154 pages long and the student stuff and socking away an install image is info that should be added to the OP. Splizwarf fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Oct 23, 2009 |
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Oct 23, 2009 07:45
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Amazon failed to deliver it to me on release day, so they refunded my shipping (which was free anyway) and gave me a $10 gift certificate. I wasn't going to complain, because what's one more day of waiting to activate the RTM copy I've been running for 3 months? But hey, thanks for the $10 Amazon!
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Oct 23, 2009 07:58
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Splizwarf posted:Tell me more about imaging my install. http://www.intowindows.com/using-windows-7-image-backup-tool/ There's a tool in Windows to do it now. I'll wait for someone else to confirm that this is the easy way to side-step having to find your XP disc the next time you feel like installing 7 again?
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Oct 23, 2009 08:25
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agonytuesday posted:I just finished installing 7 Home Premium (pre-ordered it with student email address before realizing that Professional was the same price, gently caress), Adobe CS4, MS Office 2003, DC++, uTorrent, VLC, ect. etc., and then I started wondering... what are the differences between the RC and the RTM, or are there any noticeable differences? Google searches came up with nothing but "just bug fixes, it won't start shutting down on 3/1/2010 hurr". All I noticed is that the start icon is a bit shinier than it was, but are there any other visible differences? Not really, most late release candidates are very close to what the final build is. Bug fixes are the big thing in RCs - getting it ready for production.
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Oct 23, 2009 08:38
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I dunno if this should go here or Haus of Tech, I installed my copy of Win7 Ultimate (fresh clean install btw), during the install after it does the first reboot it would get to the completing the install of windows then nothing but a black screen and computer hard locked, (no hdd activity or CD activity) and ctrl alt del did nothing. after eliminating everything other than a hardware issue I took out my vid card a 9800gtx+, and put an old 7800gt in, the install worked fine. I downloaded the latest drivers from nvidia (191.07), reinstall the 9800 and boot into safe mode, uninstall the old drivers (windows default 9800gtx drivers), then install the new ones only to be greeted by the same black screen on booting into windows normally. Did some googling to find out the a lot of people with 9800gtx/gtx+ are having the same problem a few places suggested installing older drivers with the oldest I could find were 171 but to no avail. Has anyone else got a 9800 series card and installed fine or come across the same problem as me? Black screen happens just after the loading screen when it would normally show the user account screen
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Oct 23, 2009 09:32
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I recieved my MSDN copy yesterday but MS seem to have a pretty weird attitude as to how I can use it. My colleague wrote to support asking exactly what they could be used for and got this reply:quote:As you were inquiring about Windows 7 in particular, please the following information on using one machine for all aspects of your work could be helpful for you. Has anyone else encountered this? Are MS really saying each developer needs to either dual-licence, buy two machines, or needs to check their e-mail in a VM? It's just absurd and I'm wondering whether the support rep has it wrong. Surely checking e-mail and editing documents in the aid of carrying out my day to day development work is acceptable.
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Oct 23, 2009 10:23
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JammyB posted:I recieved my MSDN copy yesterday but MS seem to have a pretty weird attitude as to how I can use it. My colleague wrote to support asking exactly what they could be used for and got this reply: In my experience a lot of people with an MSDN license don't view it as a development tool, it becomes their source of all programs. Oh, we need a 2k3 server for that? I'll just get one from MSDN. SQL2005 for that server? Yeah, I have that. I also get: I don't need to buy an OS for my work PC, I can just use my MSDN copy. What I'm reading here is that no, you can't. Also, that's probably a canned response, to a common question they get asked.
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Oct 23, 2009 12:00
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MariusMcG posted:1) Downloads seem to be capped at around 150K/sec Not at the OS level, they're not. You probably need to update/switch around your NIC drivers.
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Oct 23, 2009 13:25
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strwrsxprt posted:Amazon failed to deliver it to me on release day, so they refunded my shipping (which was free anyway) and gave me a $10 gift certificate. I wasn't going to complain, because what's one more day of waiting to activate the RTM copy I've been running for 3 months? But hey, thanks for the $10 Amazon! Did you have to contact them or did they do this automatically? I am in the same situation but haven't had any contact with them
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Oct 23, 2009 13:36
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Will using an upgrade edition of Windows 7 based on an MSDN Vista install/key work?
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Oct 23, 2009 13:41
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Is anyone else having a problem with the RTM not being able to choose the wallpaper directory? I'll go into the Customization screen with the desktop wallpapers, hit Browse, select my usual wallpaper directory, and it just doesn't open it.
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Oct 23, 2009 13:51
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blackjack posted:http://www.intowindows.com/using-windows-7-image-backup-tool/ Yup, that's basically it. It's great that MS finally included a way to image for backup in the OS.
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Oct 23, 2009 14:01
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bull3964 posted:Yup, that's basically it. It's great that MS finally included a way to image for backup in the OS. Except when its screwy - currently its reading my c: and e: as system drives, so to backup my system I need about 500gb free instead of the 80gb that my c: partition is.
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Oct 23, 2009 14:04
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JammyB posted:I recieved my MSDN copy yesterday but MS seem to have a pretty weird attitude as to how I can use it. My colleague wrote to support asking exactly what they could be used for and got this reply: If you want to be in full compliance with the MSDN-modified EULA, yes, you would have to be dual licensed. MSDN licenses, though they function just like retail and VLK licenses, are NOT retail licenses, and the restrictions are different. They will activate and function just like a retail or VLK, but their intended purpose is different. The idea behind MSDN and TechNet licenses is that you will use them to figure out your deployment strategy and system configurations, and then deploy with the appropriate licenses.
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Oct 23, 2009 14:05
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On a whim I decided to go out last night to my local Best Buy and pickup Windows 7, because my Vista PC is being a little flaky, and I've been feeling the itch to re-install. They didn't have any copies of the software and still had Vista on the shelves. They were selling PCs pre-loaded with Win7, but no copies of the software in the store. When I asked an employee, he said they would get it on Tuesday. It was kind of strange - I kind of thought that an OS launch would be a 'bigger deal', at least for an electronics retailer, but at the store I went to, it was just any other day.
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Oct 23, 2009 14:18
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AlexDeGruven posted:If you want to be in full compliance with the MSDN-modified EULA, yes, you would have to be dual licensed. MSDN licenses, though they function just like retail and VLK licenses, are NOT retail licenses, and the restrictions are different. They will activate and function just like a retail or VLK, but their intended purpose is different. What about the MSDNAA licence? The term "Academic Alliance" suggests that they should be used primarily for downloading porn and watching films and ordering pizza.
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Oct 23, 2009 14:22
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For the record, the digital river people didn't seem to have a clue that I had placed an order with the Microsoft Store. I emailed them the night before last, before I cancelled my order with them, that I wanted the 64bit disk shipped instead of a 32bit disk...they didn't get back to me until after I had already canceled my order and placed an order with the Microsoft Store. They said my order had been canceled with Digital River and that I could reorder to get the 64-bit disk shipped to me.
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Oct 23, 2009 14:23
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Tornhelm posted:Except when its screwy - currently its reading my c: and e: as system drives, so to backup my system I need about 500gb free instead of the 80gb that my c: partition is. Do you have any E folders added to your library/have any pagefile or hibernation files on there? That'd be my guess.
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Oct 23, 2009 14:32
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Wanted to go and report a few things with some status updates probably coming later: I ordered originally via the win741 with the 64-bit pro upgrade (migration path is from XP Pro SP3 32-bit); I was receiving the same issues that other people were experiencing earlier in the thread after the download was complete (cannot run setup, etc). I plan to attempt migration via the links fishmech posted + upgrade key, since I also seem to be having issues with manual iso creation from the Digital River download. On a whim I decided to call up Microsoft US directly at the number listed in the thread (option 7, 1) and after about a 10-15 minute waiting period (this is about 6am pacific time) I was able to purchase a Full copy of Win7 Pro - digital download early. This is different from what I've been reading in the thread, and when I asked for a backup DVD option they reiterated that it was digital download only (apparently managed by Digital River again, but through the Microsoft Store website instead of win741/Digital River student store). Microsoft phone price: $29.95 digital download only (up to 10 re-downloads, can request more at option), no option to ship backup CDs given (32-bit, 64-bit, executable or ISO versions!) Digital River telephone number for download related questions only: 952-253-1234 Win741 price: $35.94 digital download only (digital river download manager), did not request for backup CDs, though option is available for some extra bucks edit: whoops, clarification aldantefax fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Oct 23, 2009 |
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Oct 23, 2009 14:44
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Casao posted:Do you have any E folders added to your library/have any pagefile or hibernation files on there? That'd be my guess. I have my recorded tv set there, but I doubt that would be it considering that it isn't including my D: partition which has my docs/music/etc on it. I also had to manually enable the E: when I installed Win7 through the admin tools, so I'm not too sure whats going on with it. I'm not overly worried though - I'll wait until after my next round of dentist visits (yay no insurance) and get myself a SSD or velociraptor to act as my main partition and unplug all the other hdd's when I'm installing, and in the meantime just make an Acronis image in case I need it. It's time for me to replace a few of my hdd's anyways. One in particular usually sits around 60 celcius and I'm running out of space on a couple of the others.
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Oct 23, 2009 14:49
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Our internal employee purchasing price came in yesterday: $20 out the door for 32 or 64-bit ultimate. I love this place.
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Oct 23, 2009 14:50
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Given that Win 7 costs an insane amount here in Australia, is there any key/licence issues I would have if I bought it from the US and installed it here? Are keys region-locked in any way? I have Vista 32, and would consider an upgrade to Win 7 64, but not for US$185
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Oct 23, 2009 14:59
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AlexDeGruven posted:Not at the OS level, they're not. You probably need to update/switch around your NIC drivers. That's what I thought, too-- but I updated my drivers, and nothing changed. And then, I rebooted... The printer issue still sucks, but at least my downloads are screamin' fast again.
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Oct 23, 2009 15:01
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I bought Vista 64 OEM that came with a Win 7 coupon. I haven't used it yet but I will be soon. My question is, I'd like to upgrade the hard drive in my machine and get an SSD but I believe with the coupon I get a Windows 7 upgrade disc. Will I be able to re-install on the new hard drive or can I only upgrade on the current one? Is there a way to clone my current drive and move it to the new one? I did this on a mac laptop, not sure if it can be done on PC.
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Oct 23, 2009 15:04
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Gromit posted:Given that Win 7 costs an insane amount here in Australia, is there any key/licence issues I would have if I bought it from the US and installed it here? Are keys region-locked in any way? If you can handle an OEM version, MSY has Win7 for $110/$168/$225 for Home/Pro/Ultimate respectively. Other than that, no there's no region locking so if you can get it imported cheap enough then it would be fine.
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Oct 23, 2009 15:23
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 In class right now, but my copy's in the process of being delivered right now. Not bad for Amazon.ca's super saver shipping, considering we had no release date shipping in Canada.
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Oct 23, 2009 15:33
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I have a Home Premium upgrade on order, if I install the RTM now will it let me activate later with the upgrade key?
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Oct 23, 2009 15:38
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Ok, well I checked my confirmation, I guess I just glanced at it yesterday and they spelled my name and shipping address wrong...so I called and asked them to correct it, and the lady asked me what edition I had (because they have to cancel and reorder), and she listed out Ultimate as an option. So I could have just gotten Ultimate for $38...but I would have felt bad. If anyone else has no conscience you could give the wrong info during your intial order (not U.S. based from either call I made), then call ask for a correction (U.S. based from what I got) and tell them you had Ultimate for $29.99. My person might not have caught it, but I guess you could give it a shot if you don't think $29.99 is cheap enough for Pro.
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Oct 23, 2009 15:52
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So I upgraded to Home Premium 64 by booting off the DVD. The 64 bit refused to start in the 32 bit XP environment. Confirmed that I can still dual boot back to XP and Win7 with the boot manager that is there. I thought that the 7 upgrade would replace the XP install. Weird.
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Oct 23, 2009 15:54
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MrBigglesworth posted:So I upgraded to Home Premium 64 by booting off the DVD. The 64 bit refused to start in the 32 bit XP environment. Did you install to a different partition? I installed 7 on the same partition my XP install was on and it replaced it.
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Oct 23, 2009 15:57
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I read the OP but not much else of the thread, so feel free to mock me if this has already been discussed in great detail. Next week, I've got a laptop coming that has 7 on it. I've been a "diehard" XP user, so I've skipped Vista entirely. What sorts of cool toys can I expect from my new OS?
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Oct 23, 2009 16:15
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Drox posted:I read the OP but not much else of the thread, so feel free to mock me if this has already been discussed in great detail. This and this are pretty great lists.
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Oct 23, 2009 16:32
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Thanks, my anticipation only grows! 
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Oct 23, 2009 16:38
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From the "so obvious in retrospect" camp comes another story: I had not been able to get the new "Play To" feature to work with my Xbox 360 until this morning. Now that I've gotten it working, here's what you do: 1) Turn on the 360, and once it's on, fire up Media Center 2) Go to your PC, and fire up Windows Media Center 3) WMC will detect the 360 and walk you through the steps of creating a connection 4) Now, from Windows Media Player, you can right-click on any song or group of songs, select "Play To > Xbox 360", and the music will start playing on your 360 My problem was that I didn't realize the 360 had to be in Media Center mode for this feature to work. Man, it's a great feature, though...
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Oct 23, 2009 16:57
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Just got Professional today through educational discount(741). Unfortunately Microsoft's blatant ignorance of foreign exchange meant that I had to pay 30 (34-ish with vat) quid rather than US$30. So far 7 is impressive if just for not being a huge pile of doo-doo like Vista was at launch, and the driver compatibility is superb. Programs in general also run smoother, and that's not because I did a clean install. Usually XP bogs down (especially booting time) after I'm done installing all the stuff I need, but 7 is holding up very well.
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Oct 23, 2009 17:03
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So, uh, in case anyone needs to, apparently you CAN use the upgrade media to do a FULL, clean install of Win 7 -- you do not need to already have a version of Windows on the hard drive: http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2009/10/23/clean-install-windows-7-with-upgrade-media-the-answer.aspx
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Oct 23, 2009 17:04
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If Vista was as bad as everyone who didn't use it claimed it was, then it would have ripped a hole in the universe and all of the bad opinions would have been sucked in.
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Oct 23, 2009 17:09
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Socialism posted:Just got Professional today through educational discount(741). Unfortunately Microsoft's blatant ignorance of foreign exchange meant that I had to pay 30 (34-ish with vat) quid rather than US$30. The only reason 7 isn't a "pile of doo-doo" for launch day drivers is because it's using the same (or close enough for end users) driver model Vista has. Microsoft didn't improve, vendors used the intervening 2 years and actually make drivers. I still can't fathom how so many people who swore up and down Vista sucked somehow now believe 7 is some sort of heaven-sent upgrade. Crackbone fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Oct 23, 2009 |
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Oct 23, 2009 17:12
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I just got off the phone with a cool representative named Eric who got me Windows7 Professional Full for only $29.99. Still waiting on the email, but that's expected when their servers are being hammered like they are. WOHOO
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