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Skier
Apr 24, 2003

Fuck yeah.
Fan of Britches
Helping up the picture content with a poor '89 Toyota Camry 3S-FE motor that didn't like to rev after ~260,000 miles. It lets you know this by going BANG.





Edge smooshed out like a putty knife:

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InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

GWBBQ posted:

I remember, from my unfortunate time as a lube tech, the old Mercedes-Benz diesel engines had a small lever next to the intake manifold that had "STOP" printed on it. I can't find a picture, but I'm sure someone here knows what I'm talking about.
On the Thwaites dumper truck my dad's got, the only way to shut down the (diesel) engine is to pop the engine cover, and flick a lever which jams the exhaust valve open and kills compression. Because its idle isn't set up quite right, it would eventually stall out anyway if left alone, but that's not a design thing.

To start it, you flick the lever so there's less resistance to work against while you spin the starter handle, then flick it closed when you've got a few rpm. You also have to have the front wheel (yes, singular, it's a 3-wheeler) on full lock so your knuckles don't hit it while you're cranking, and because the fuelling's out of whack, you use a piece of binder twine wrapped round your foot to pull on the throttle so she'll start.

Seriously, no bastard's ever going to steal it. Even if by some miracle they started it, the pedal layout's set to the pre-war standard of centre throttle, right brake, and the gearbox is impossible to navigate even having driven Fiats for over a decade...

ACEofsnett
Feb 19, 2007

FILTHY CASUAL | CONSOLE PEASANT

InitialDave posted:

:words:

This is epic. However, someone's probably going to steal it now, given the detailed instructions you've provided. Do you think it could handle the tongue weight of a small car trailer with an integra type-R on it?

Nevermind, if it's the same as this thing, its' so :black101: it boggles the mind. It could probably pull a house down, albeit at 5 mph.


You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Skier posted:

Helping up the picture content with a poor '89 Toyota Camry 3S-FE motor that didn't like to rev after ~260,000 miles. It lets you know this by going BANG.





Edge smooshed out like a putty knife:


Wow, those Camry motors actually die? :aaa:

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

JointHorse posted:

Differential in a Peugeot 405 decided to grenade itself.

250fwhp and a Mazda G-series FWD transmission;










Goodbye 3rd gear and the diff.

scapulataf
Jul 18, 2007

by Ozmaugh

Sockington posted:

250fwhp and a Mazda G-series FWD transmission;

Pictures

Goodbye 3rd gear and the diff.

Holy gently caress, I always thought it was the case that busted on those G series trannies.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

ACEofsnett posted:

This is epic. However, someone's probably going to steal it now, given the detailed instructions you've provided. Do you think it could handle the tongue weight of a small car trailer with an integra type-R on it?

Nevermind, if it's the same as this thing, its' so :black101: it boggles the mind. It could probably pull a house down, albeit at 5 mph.


Yep, that's the one. In fact, that's the same stock photo I've used when describing it to people :v:

Yes, it would tow a trailer with a ton or so of Honda on it. No, it wouldn't go very fast, and God help you if you needed to stop. Single leading shoe, rod-activated drums on the rear axle...

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

You Am I posted:

Wow, those Camry motors actually die? :aaa:

3sfe's are fairly robust, but early model 5s-fe's where rod throwing mother fuckers if not built perfect or you didn't sacrifice a goat or romped on them hard.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Godholio posted:

Same thing with the F-15. Every modern fighter is inherently unstable. This improves maneuverability significantly. But it means the pilot's input doesn't directly affect the flight surfaces...the computer receives the input, decides how best to make it happen, and actually makes the adjustments. The computer was not designed to fly with one wing. McDonnell Douglas ran multiple simulations and were absolutely stunned the plane landed safely.

The F-15 is not a fly-by-wire aircraft. It relies on aerodynamics for its stability, not computer corrections (like nearly every fighter made since the F-15).

insta
Jan 28, 2009

scapulataf posted:

Holy gently caress, I always thought it was the case that busted on those G series trannies.

Not always :( Did this pulling a 2.2 60' in my 130whp Escort.



General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005
Heads and pistons from my collection. The thing to note on the bottom head is the shim sitting on it. See the hole burnt throught it? Yeah. Did that in less than an hour, on more than one cylinder. Due to the domed piston pictured next to it.

The top one, dropped intake valve seat, ate a piston.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

MrChips posted:

The F-15 is not a fly-by-wire aircraft. It relies on aerodynamics for its stability, not computer corrections (like nearly every fighter made since the F-15).

The initial run were not FBW, but the C model and everything since is. The F-15I should fall into this latter category. The F-15 IS flyable without it apparently, but unless it's disabled, the computer is still running the show. I don't know if there are still any F-15As in the inventory. The ANG had a few a year or two ago, but I don't know if they're still around.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Godholio posted:

The initial run were not FBW, but the C model and everything since is. The F-15I should fall into this latter category. The F-15 IS flyable without it apparently, but unless it's disabled, the computer is still running the show. I don't know if there are still any F-15As in the inventory. The ANG had a few a year or two ago, but I don't know if they're still around.

It's not a true FBW system though, in which the computer communicates with the control surface servos via electrical cables (as opposed to a conventional hydromechanical system of linkages, cables and pushrods communicating with the servos). The F-15C and later models have what's known as a Control Augmentation System (CAS); basically, the control cables/pushrods have servos attached or spliced into them to allow a flight control computer to manipulate the controls - sort of like an autopilot, but with more authority to make control surface movements. It provides many of the benefits of FBW, but at the same time, it retains a physical connection between the control column and the control surfaces.

The F-15 isn't the only aircraft to be fitted with a system like this - the F-14A+ and F-14D had a similar system installed as well.

nerdrum
Aug 17, 2007

where am I
308whp through a k series tranny:


ps: gently caress ring gears.

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omgitstheinternet
Apr 28, 2005

Money, Clothes, and Hoes;
All a Nigga Knows

Sockington posted:

250fwhp and a Mazda G-series FWD transmission;










Goodbye 3rd gear and the diff.

The insides of damaged transmissions make me cringe. To be fair though, the insides of any transmission make me throw up a little from confusion.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Sockington posted:

250fwhp and a Mazda G-series FWD transmission;










Goodbye 3rd gear and the diff.
drat, now you make me fear my Protege. Thanks sock, I will now have terrible visions every time I take off from a stop sign.

\/\/Sup, mazdaspeed buddy! :hfive:\/\/

Fender Anarchist fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Nov 20, 2009

peepsalot
Apr 24, 2007

        PEEP THIS...
           BITCH!

Sockington posted:

250fwhp and a Mazda G-series FWD transmission;

Goodbye 3rd gear and the diff.
Is that from a Mazdaspeed Protege? Mines got a broken diff too. Though, your pics don't look like the typical failure mode of the MSP diff.

I haven't torn mine apart yet.

Edit: This is what i mean by "typical failure mode"

Click here for the full 2048x1536 image.


Over 120 broken, and counting. And that's just the count from the people that post on that forum... for a car that they only made 2500 of. :suicide:

peepsalot fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Nov 19, 2009

Wobert
Feb 4, 2002

If we're doing airplanes in here as well, I figure I'd contribute something from my industry:











I am a reservoir, not a drilling engineer, but from what I recall they were drilling this well and they hit an unknown formation and took a "kick" of natural gas at a much higher pressure than they expected. A bubble of gas rose between the drill string and the borehole.

The change in pressure of the drilling fluid was monitored and there are a series of rams on a device called a BOP or blow out preventer that can close tightly around or even cut through the drill string if it was really bad, near uncontrollable kick. One set of rams was known to be bad and was locked up, another set jammed up, and a third set didn't have the right tool in time as the "driller" didn't react in time. The rig ended up being evacuated before the drill pipe was ejected out of the ground and the bubble of gas reached surface and shot the drilling fluid completely out of the hole as the gas bubble caught on fire.

This is pretty simplified, but I was trying to get the point across. If people are interested, I know I have a lot more pics of various oilfield disasters, but I'd have to check my work computer tomorrow.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!
I like to think that it's been established so far in this thread that while it's extra cool if it's part of a vehicle gone :psyduck:, what we're all really here for is to see anything spectacularly broken. Anything. Please, do continue.

INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Yeah that last post counts.

Clip of NHRA crashes with lovely youtube music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf7qV4GiZeg

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!
Crankcases are supposed to be see-through, right?


Sleeves? We don't need no stinkin' sleeves.


The engine was a CAT 3412E.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

MrChips posted:

It's not a true FBW system though, in which the computer communicates with the control surface servos via electrical cables (as opposed to a conventional hydromechanical system of linkages, cables and pushrods communicating with the servos). The F-15C and later models have what's known as a Control Augmentation System (CAS); basically, the control cables/pushrods have servos attached or spliced into them to allow a flight control computer to manipulate the controls - sort of like an autopilot, but with more authority to make control surface movements. It provides many of the benefits of FBW, but at the same time, it retains a physical connection between the control column and the control surfaces.

The F-15 isn't the only aircraft to be fitted with a system like this - the F-14A+ and F-14D had a similar system installed as well.

Yeah, the jives with how it was explained to me. What's your background in this, out of curiosity?

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT
Oh, what? Oh, Becky and I are gonna cancel our weekend yoga class to take our H2's "rock climbing" with Dave and his wife. We even bought the rally lights off of the Hummer aftermarket site so that we'll be more visible. Can't wait!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvLzjzoxgfY

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000

omgitstheinternet posted:

The insides of damaged transmissions make me cringe. To be fair though, the insides of any transmission make me throw up a little from confusion.
i've worked on trannies now from a couple vintage motorcycles, and i'm surprised that they don't look much different than that one here. i suppose the gears must be bigger, but you're still putting all your power through two little teeth there. or more than two if they're helical cut? anyway, 25-50hp? sure i can believe that? 250? i have a hard time understanding how that works.

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

i've worked on trannies now from a couple vintage motorcycles, and i'm surprised that they don't look much different than that one here. i suppose the gears must be bigger, but you're still putting all your power through two little teeth there. or more than two if they're helical cut? anyway, 25-50hp? sure i can believe that? 250? i have a hard time understanding how that works.

Helical gears, so you have a longer gear than the width. That and good metal.

Big K of Justice
Nov 27, 2005

Anyone seen my ball joints?

Ringo Star Get posted:

Oh, what? Oh, Becky and I are gonna cancel our weekend yoga class to take our H2's "rock climbing" with Dave and his wife. We even bought the rally lights off of the Hummer aftermarket site so that we'll be more visible. Can't wait!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvLzjzoxgfY

That H2 has seen more off road poo poo then most people have with their "hard core" rigs. Trust me.

Guy goes by Alec W on pirate 4x4, hummer x and jk owners and few other forums.

He took that H2 *EVERYWHERE* and beat the snot out of it, the only thing he broke on it was the tie rods in that one video which is pretty impressive. He's still amused at all the play time it's getting.

I think he's running around with an H3 and a Jeep Rubicon these days. But I've seen pictures and videos of that thing all over the place, Moab, Fordyce/Rubicon and out in Colorado and Wyoming.

Now if the H2 broke a tie rod in a mall parking lot.. that would be funny :)

thArf
Oct 9, 2009

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!

thArf posted:



Ebay JDM grounding kit?

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

MetaJew posted:

Ebay JDM grounding kit?

It's the premium ebay amp kit. Coupled with the top of the line ebay battery tie down kit.

scapulataf
Jul 18, 2007

by Ozmaugh

insta posted:

Not always :( Did this pulling a 2.2 60' in my 130whp Escort.





Since it was an escort doing a 2.2 60 ft. I'll assume it was an EGT w/ G series.
Holy gently caress, perhaps they aren't as robust as I thought, though I was aware before that they weren't indestructible.
Seeing the pics of the MSP diffs also jogged my memory. I seem to recall now, guys in P5s and MP3s having issues with the G series.
THough alot of the people I've seen with a bpt swap in first gens don't seem to have the same issues. Maybe I've just forgotten.


Baby Hitler posted:

Helical gears, so you have a longer gear than the width. That and good metal.

Agreed, steel is strong.

Tossed_Salad_Man
Feb 19, 2002

You Gon' Get Raped.
The Dana 35 Break GALLERY.

http://www.billhughes.com/dana35c/

with classics such as:


Click here for the full 800x600 image.

Tossed_Salad_Man fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Nov 19, 2009

insta
Jan 28, 2009

scapulataf posted:

Since it was an escort doing a 2.2 60 ft. I'll assume it was an EGT w/ G series.
Holy gently caress, perhaps they aren't as robust as I thought, though I was aware before that they weren't indestructible.
Seeing the pics of the MSP diffs also jogged my memory. I seem to recall now, guys in P5s and MP3s having issues with the G series.
THough alot of the people I've seen with a bpt swap in first gens don't seem to have the same issues. Maybe I've just forgotten.


Agreed, steel is strong.

G5M sedan ratios (taller than normal) in an Escort ZX2 with boltons. The 98 ZX2 trans was awesome for drags, nice short gears and as bulletproof as I've seen the G-series transaxles. But, I couldn't find a 98 trans ever at my pick-n-pull, so it was usually the one from the 4-door sedan. The only actual ZX2 trans I found was stuck in 3rd gear :(

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

scapulataf posted:

Holy gently caress, perhaps they aren't as robust as I thought, though I was aware before that they weren't indestructible.

So here's how they fail;

1. Diff pin fails
a) To fix, weld diff pin and replace w/ a welded MSP diff or a mFactory one

2. Second or Third gear shreds to pieces (as pictured)
a) To fix, replace w/ expensive aftermarket set or swap in a new gear box

3. The power causes the aluminium case to flex between shifts as power is re-applied (second to third usually) and the shafts destroy their mounting points inside the transmission.
a)To fix this, a thick plate is machined to fit where the shafts meet the 1/4" aluminium mounting point on the transmission.



Or to fix all of this, you simply replace the G-series with a Toyota E-series from a FWD Solara or a AWD Celica (if you have an AWD BG chassis car.)



OH - and for all of you with ZX2s etc - there's a company producing new rear subframes that let you install a Toyota Celica rear diff/axle setup in a FWD Escort GT/ZX2 chassis. There's tons of info about the Toyota trans swap + this new AWD setup if anyone wants it.

Mind you, the adapter plate that's currently out there (about $270usd) only works for the BP motor (which can be installed into a ZX2 easily).

ab0z
Jun 28, 2008

by angerbotSD

Sockington posted:

OH - and for all of you with ZX2s etc - there's a company producing new rear subframes that let you install a Toyota Celica rear diff/axle setup in a FWD Escort GT/ZX2 chassis. There's tons of info about the Toyota trans swap + this new AWD setup if anyone wants it.

Mind you, the adapter plate that's currently out there (about $270usd) only works for the BP motor (which can be installed into a ZX2 easily).

Holy crap AWD escort? I need this information yesterday.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

ab0z posted:

Holy crap AWD escort? I need this information yesterday.
Is it related to the AWD versions of the RS2000 we got in the UK in the 90s?

Skyssx
Feb 2, 2001

by T. Fine

Sockington posted:

OH - and for all of you with ZX2s etc - there's a company producing new rear subframes that let you install a Toyota Celica rear diff/axle setup in a FWD Escort GT/ZX2 chassis. There's tons of info about the Toyota trans swap + this new AWD setup if anyone wants it.

Mind you, the adapter plate that's currently out there (about $270usd) only works for the BP motor (which can be installed into a ZX2 easily).

drat you. I'm working on my sister's ZX2 right now, if you missed the post in your project thread. Does the AWD rear preclude use of the ZX2 S/R discs (which I may be swapping in)? Either way, a full driveline and engine swap is probably out of the scope of what i'm looking to do.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Godholio posted:

Yeah, the jives with how it was explained to me. What's your background in this, out of curiosity?

I work in the aviation industry. A while back, I spent some time talking with some Eagle drivers while we were all twiddling our fingers in the FBO, waiting for the weather to lift. I asked them a mountain of questions about their aircraft (some of them were pretty technical), nearly all of which they were happy to answer.

sw0cb
Feb 18, 2007

Ringo Star Get posted:

Oh, what? Oh, Becky and I are gonna cancel our weekend yoga class to take our H2's "rock climbing" with Dave and his wife. We even bought the rally lights off of the Hummer aftermarket site so that we'll be more visible. Can't wait!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvLzjzoxgfY

It looks like its actually set up well, and judging by the other posters response, I don't think there is any reason to give this guy poo poo, that happens when your wheeling in a rock garden. Props to him for using his tussed up suburban properly.

hippynerd
Nov 5, 2004

by Ozma
These potato chips taste funny :(
not really, potato chips are much thicker than these bearing remnants

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InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

sw0cb posted:

It looks like its actually set up well, and judging by the other posters response, I don't think there is any reason to give this guy poo poo, that happens when your wheeling in a rock garden. Props to him for using his tussed up suburban properly.
It's not an umcommon thing to get a similar failure with a live axle - come off a ledge, drop the drag link or track rod on a rock, and suddenly you have decidedly wonky alignment.

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