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3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.
I need some Boston-area friends who like Black Metal. Even my friends who like death metal hate black metal, and I hate seeing shows by myself.

:commissar:
(Formerly Colonial Air Force)

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MrWithers
Nov 24, 2007

pugna posted:

If you like Winterfylleth, you should definitely check out Wodensthrone, Askival, Cnocantursa, Niroth, and Forefather. But definitely Wodensthrone.

Wodensthrone - Loss is really amazing. That and Fen - Malediction Fields are my favourite albums of the year.

Funeral Mist
Sep 30, 2009
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=560400

song #2 mixdown 993801

mine and my friends new project, a little rough, we've only jammed twice but i think its decent.

Razor
May 9, 2004

Like a dark night in autumn

Screening times have been announced for Until the Light Takes Us in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I'm down for meeting up with anyone that wants to head to this, and perhaps grab a beer or two at Founders afterward.

12/4 Friday – 1:00, 5:00, 9:00 PM
12/5 Saturday – 9:00 PM
12/6 Sunday – 1:00, 5:00 PM
12/7 Monday – Closed
12/8 Tuesday – 9:00 PM
12/9 Wednesday – 9:00 PM
12/10 Thursday – 9:00 PM Final Showing!

Hung Yuri
Aug 29, 2007

by Tiny Fistpump

Lord Commissar posted:

I need some Boston-area friends who like Black Metal. Even my friends who like death metal hate black metal, and I hate seeing shows by myself.

Where are you in boston?

deltawing
Sep 20, 2007

feels good man

Razor posted:

Screening times have been announced for Until the Light Takes Us in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I'm down for meeting up with anyone that wants to head to this, and perhaps grab a beer or two at Founders afterward.

12/4 Friday – 1:00, 5:00, 9:00 PM
12/5 Saturday – 9:00 PM
12/6 Sunday – 1:00, 5:00 PM
12/7 Monday – Closed
12/8 Tuesday – 9:00 PM
12/9 Wednesday – 9:00 PM
12/10 Thursday – 9:00 PM Final Showing!

Cost?

Razor
May 9, 2004

Like a dark night in autumn

The Thursday screening is on student night, so it's $5; the rest are $7.

deltawing
Sep 20, 2007

feels good man

Razor posted:

The Thursday screening is on student night, so it's $5; the rest are $7.

I think this Friday would be a good time for me to go, it would give me a good excuse to get out some plans people are trying to force me into, I'd rather spend my night learning about Black Metal than dealing with people who will hold little relevance in my life less than a year from now. 9pm showing works for me, how about you?

Razor
May 9, 2004

Like a dark night in autumn

Yeah, that would be fine. I'm going to a hockey game with a couple friends, but I can duck out around 8:30 and head over there.

deltawing
Sep 20, 2007

feels good man

Razor posted:

Yeah, that would be fine. I'm going to a hockey game with a couple friends, but I can duck out around 8:30 and head over there.

Would that be your first time seeing it?

You sure you're alright ditching some friends for some internet nerd? lol

EDIT: Also, there is a small possibility I may have to cancel to take duty for someone else, but I'll keep you informed, as of now I'm not slated to take her duty shift this weekend.

Razor
May 9, 2004

Like a dark night in autumn

Yup, that would be the first time. And I'm fine with it, because plans for the hockey game aren't solid yet--and we did discuss this movie a month or so ago. But if you might have to cancel, perhaps another day/time would work better? I'm open on Tuesday and Thursday as well.

deltawing
Sep 20, 2007

feels good man

Razor posted:

Yup, that would be the first time. And I'm fine with it, because plans for the hockey game aren't solid yet--and we did discuss this movie a month or so ago. But if you might have to cancel, perhaps another day/time would work better? I'm open on Tuesday and Thursday as well.

Sounds good, both of those work for me, too. Good to know we have alternative dates planned that work for us.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

Hung Yuri posted:

Where are you in boston?

I'm actually in Nashua, NH. But it's the Boston Metro.

Plasma1010
Jul 2, 2007

by T. Mascis
Why after all the black metal bands do they list music by Boards of Canada ?

Anyhow, is there anyone who wants to see the NYC showing of 9:15p ?

I live on LI so I could commute out there after work.

This will probably be the best thing since the VBS TNBM documentary. By the way, did anyone get to NYC to see Peter Beste display ? I saw it last May + June it was the best.

Plasma1010 fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Dec 2, 2009

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Aug 22, 2004
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ultraviolence123 posted:

Agreed. But only the original No Colours Records edition, as the Nuclear Blast reissue has tons of horrible edits that kill the mood of the album. I remember buying the original version when it was released and being absolutely blown away by what I was hearing. One of the most depressed black metal recordings ever released.

Do you know if this is the case for Darkthrone's albums as well? A bunch of them were re-mastered and I haven't heard the originals. Is there a big difference?

Qu Appelle
Nov 3, 2005

"If a COVID-19 pandemic occurs, public health officials may have additional instructions, such as avoiding close contact with others as much as possible, and staying home if someone in your household is sick." - Official insights from Public Health: Seattle & King County staff

Plasma1010 posted:

Why after all the black metal bands do they list music by Boards of Canada ?


Because BoC did the atmospheric music that played periodically, such as when there was an action shot of a Norwegian tree or Fenris doing something thrilling, like walking down a sidewalk.

Kaiho
Dec 2, 2004

Qu Appelle posted:

an action shot of a Norwegian tree or Fenris doing something thrilling, like walking down a sidewalk.

I think this describes the movie quite well

Pannus
Mar 14, 2004

So are you saying it's a boring movie?

Kaiho
Dec 2, 2004

stairway to hippo posted:

So are you saying it's a boring movie?

I have said previously in one of the two metal threads that I enjoyed it. At the same time, though, it isn't your typical documentary. There are talking heads but also a lot of silence.

Pannus
Mar 14, 2004

Yeah, I hope it's not the typical black metal documentary, because they tend to suck. I'd rather have silence than sensationalism, as long as it contributes to the overall feel of the movie. Anyway, does anyone know if this will be out on DVD anytime soon? I'm not sure if it will ever screen here, I don't even think it's got European distribution.

Hung Yuri
Aug 29, 2007

by Tiny Fistpump

Lord Commissar posted:

I'm actually in Nashua, NH. But it's the Boston Metro.

I guess I could travel out there for shows if any show up, I'm like a 15 minute walk from the MFA

Not Very Metal
Aug 3, 2007

Shit Fuck Shit Fuck!
There isn't a lot of new information presented in the film, but it's easily worth the $7. Also, Fenriz is hysterical.

Apparently they have something like 350 hours of extra footage, so a DVD is highly likely, although without any tentative date.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.

Hung Yuri posted:

I guess I could travel out there for shows if any show up, I'm like a 15 minute walk from the MFA

I think most of the black metal shows will likely be at the Palladium in Worcester.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Not Very Metal posted:

There isn't a lot of new information presented in the film, but it's easily worth the $7. Also, Fenriz is hysterical.

Apparently they have something like 350 hours of extra footage, so a DVD is highly likely, although without any tentative date.

Which sucks because it isn't playing anywhere within 5 hours of here.

ElectricWizard
Oct 21, 2008
While it's not strictly black metal, Keep Of Kalessin have now announced that they will be participating in the 2010 Norwegian Eurovision contest.

Obsidian posted:

I think we are gonna get some reactions from the black metal scene, and lose some credibility. Some people, at least, will call us sellouts, but people saying those things are usually people who have an underground band themselves but make a living from selling hot dogs at a gas station. I think it's less of a sellout to play in the Eurovision than to sell hot dogs.


On a side note, I've just gotten confirmed that I will be studying in Toronto this spring (moving from Norway), does anyone know if there is much of a metal scene in Ontario?

ElectricWizard fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Dec 2, 2009

Pannus
Mar 14, 2004

Not Very Metal posted:

There isn't a lot of new information presented in the film, but it's easily worth the $7. Also, Fenriz is hysterical.

Apparently they have something like 350 hours of extra footage, so a DVD is highly likely, although without any tentative date.

Yeah, I'd gladly pay the entrance fee just to see Fenriz' latest hijinks. It sucks that a movie about the Norwegian black metal scene has no known release date in Norway. I'm hoping they will hurry up and release the DVD (with lots of bonus material).

Hung Yuri
Aug 29, 2007

by Tiny Fistpump

Lord Commissar posted:

I think most of the black metal shows will likely be at the Palladium in Worcester.

That's like 2 hours away but if a show comes up and you want a bro to go with I'll go for it as long as I know beforehand.

hit me up at GvazSA or on steam (gvaz). Don't have plat anymore but maybe in the future.

Plasma1010
Jul 2, 2007

by T. Mascis

Qu Appelle posted:

an action shot of a Norwegian tree

Why did they not just use Hliðskjálf for that ?

Kaiho
Dec 2, 2004

stairway to hippo posted:

Yeah, I hope it's not the typical black metal documentary, because they tend to suck. I'd rather have silence than sensationalism, as long as it contributes to the overall feel of the movie. Anyway, does anyone know if this will be out on DVD anytime soon? I'm not sure if it will ever screen here, I don't even think it's got European distribution.

The directors told me that they indeed do have hundreds of hours more to piece together into extras, and the whole film festival circuit (including in several Nordic countries) was obviously aimed at securing a screen run. I think it was good to watch the film with the filmmakers and have them answer questions after the showing (even if it turned into a yes-no match on whether there national socialism was inherent in black metal) because it definitely had the potential to leave audiences cold.

Not Very Metal
Aug 3, 2007

Shit Fuck Shit Fuck!
A writer friend at one of the detroit indie papers had this film reviewed, and just shared the link:

http://www.metrotimes.com/screens/review.asp?rid=25817

I think the review is pretty spot-on (e: if not a bit pretentious) in that he writes the film won't be too intriguing for non-fans. "Waxing nostalgic" is absolutely correct.

In other news, does anyone listen to Melechesh?

Splash Damage
May 23, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
What are some good bands similar to Windir or Vreid? What I am mainly looking for is not singing about satan all the time and trying so hard to offend people. Black Metal might not be a good genre to look for things like that but I like the growling vocals.

Pannus
Mar 14, 2004

Splash Damage posted:

What are some good bands similar to Windir or Vreid? What I am mainly looking for is not singing about satan all the time and trying so hard to offend people. Black Metal might not be a good genre to look for things like that but I like the growling vocals.

There are a lot of black metal bands that don't sing about satan. Since you like Windir, you might like Mistur, who just released their first album. The band features one of the guitarists from Windir, and has a similar style in my opinion.

Is there anything in particular you like about the two aforementioned bands, other than the lack of offensiveness? Might make it easier to make some recommendations.

Kaiho
Dec 2, 2004

Not Very Metal posted:

A writer friend at one of the detroit indie papers had this film reviewed, and just shared the link:

http://www.metrotimes.com/screens/review.asp?rid=25817

I think the review is pretty spot-on (e: if not a bit pretentious) in that he writes the film won't be too intriguing for non-fans. "Waxing nostalgic" is absolutely correct.

"If you're wondering why young men raised in a heterogeneous, affluent, largely crime-free culture would plunge so far off the deep end, keep wondering."

How, exactly, is Norway heterogeneous?

Also, precisely the fact that everything in Norway at the time was so god drat hunky dory is the reason that some "plunged so far off the deep end". I'll spoiler this bit since many people haven't seen the film but aside from the quite clear mental illnesses of some people (Dead) the feeling of alienation in one's own homogeneous culture is what drove others to severe acts of rebellion (Varg, all the other church burners). He says as much in that scene when he tells of waiting for World War 3 to start.

Think
Sep 20, 2005



Splash Damage posted:

What are some good bands similar to Windir or Vreid? What I am mainly looking for is not singing about satan all the time and trying so hard to offend people. Black Metal might not be a good genre to look for things like that but I like the growling vocals.

Check out Cor Scorpii. It's about as close to Windir as you're going to get, and has a couple of the same members, also.

ElectricWizard
Oct 21, 2008

Splash Damage posted:

What are some good bands similar to Windir or Vreid? What I am mainly looking for is not singing about satan all the time and trying so hard to offend people. Black Metal might not be a good genre to look for things like that but I like the growling vocals.
Cor Scorpii is also pretty good, and features ex-members of Windir.
If you're not into the whole "satan"-thing, you could look into some of the big'uns like Immortal and Enslaved for starters, then just branch out from there.

edit: beaten. :(

Not Very Metal
Aug 3, 2007

Shit Fuck Shit Fuck!

Kaiho posted:

"If you're wondering why young men raised in a heterogeneous, affluent, largely crime-free culture would plunge so far off the deep end, keep wondering."

How, exactly, is Norway heterogeneous?

Also, precisely the fact that everything in Norway at the time was so god drat hunky dory is the reason that some "plunged so far off the deep end". I'll spoiler this bit since many people haven't seen the film but aside from the quite clear mental illnesses of some people (Dead) the feeling of alienation in one's own homogeneous culture is what drove others to severe acts of rebellion (Varg, all the other church burners). He says as much in that scene when he tells of waiting for World War 3 to start.

Ha ha, I did a double take at that as well. Pretty sure he meant homogeneous.

Meh, I wouldn't expect an outsider like him to understand, man. :colbert:

Splash Damage
May 23, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

stairway to hippo posted:

Is there anything in particular you like about the two aforementioned bands, other than the lack of offensiveness? Might make it easier to make some recommendations.

I don't quite know how to put it, but: You know how in ,for example, Amon Amarth the singing is clear, audible and it's the general focus of the song and in Windir Valfar's singing blends nicely with the guitars, is the more or less same volume? I like that. I also prefer the shrill singing instead of the aforementioned Amon Amarth's deep growling. The melody in general is also a bit more complex. I relalize that's very poorly worded but I have zero experience in musical terminology.

If this helps, my favorite Windir songs are Despot, The Blacksmith and the Troll of somethingsomething, Dance of Mortal Lust, Fagning.

Also, I checked Immortal on Wikipedia and I'll defineately check them out, seeing that they have high ratings in reviews.

Stoo
Dec 29, 2004
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Splash Damage posted:

What are some good bands similar to Windir or Vreid? What I am mainly looking for is not singing about satan all the time and trying so hard to offend people. Black Metal might not be a good genre to look for things like that but I like the growling vocals.

Mistur. A million times Mistur.
Stian Bakketeig from Windir formed them after Valfar died and they frankly sound almost exactly what you'd expect Windir to sound like if they were still around. They've only put out one album 'Attende' so far and it's really worth picking up. Of all the bands that formed from the ashes of Windir, they're by far my favourite, though I'd also really recommend Cor Scorpii as well.

Qu Appelle
Nov 3, 2005

"If a COVID-19 pandemic occurs, public health officials may have additional instructions, such as avoiding close contact with others as much as possible, and staying home if someone in your household is sick." - Official insights from Public Health: Seattle & King County staff

Plasma1010 posted:

Why did they not just use Hliðskjálf for that ?

I think you're making the great assumption that the documentarians are actual fans of the genre and know the really obscure stuff, instead of people who stumbled upon a great story (Violence and Satanism? In Norway?! :wtc: ) and milked it for all it's worth.

And I loved the Boards of Canada music in the film. It was stronger because they didn't use all BM all the time for the background music. It adds to the slow pace of the film.

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Kaiho
Dec 2, 2004

Splash Damage posted:

I don't quite know how to put it, but: You know how in ,for example, Amon Amarth the singing is clear, audible and it's the general focus of the song and in Windir Valfar's singing blends nicely with the guitars, is the more or less same volume?

This may be a bit off the beaten track from other recommendations but have a listen to Wolves in the Throne Room, specifically the song Vastness and Sorrow. It's a different kind of black metal, but one where the vocals are definitely just another instrument layered on, and not in the foreground. As I said, they're different musically, preferring a wall-of-noise approach to the more individually-constructed instrument lines of Windir and its successors. So in that sense they're a bit more like Emperor. Who, along with Immortal etc. is a staple of the genre and worth a spin. If you don't like it, fine, move on. But you might.

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