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trans fat posted:I really suck at making electronic music. I made what I think is a sufficient beat and a sufficient bassline. What can I do to this track to make it bumpin like the ones you guys make? Practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice. edit: and for the record:  bit over a year ago, way too loving long, kinda rambling, poo poo quality, and generally got some cool ideas but very meh overall.  from a few weeks back. clear chorus and verse, clear melody, decent (if way overdone) mixdown, etc. The difference between the two of these is honestly just hours and hours and hours of writing and figuring out what works and what doesn't. mezzir fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Nov 26, 2009 |
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trans fat posted:What can I do to this track to make it bumpin like the ones you guys make? Dont ever ever stop, press on. trans fat posted:
That trans fat; his music is sufficient / That trans fat; his music is good Which of the above do you prefer? Why are you stopping, why not press on? Add add add, explore, get lost in it. Strive to be good, perfect, inventive, weird, interesting, whatever, but not sufficient. Sufficient wont do. Sufficient is in fact; the enemy  and Practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice.
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It's not that I'm quitting, it's that I've finally made a track that I wouldn't be embarrassed to show people. I was looking for info on making good sounds. I'll be continuing to add on to this song, I just got to a point that it was developed enough - it's unfinished.
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You dont just get told how to make stuff sound good though, you get nudged in the right direction when you go off course (at best) and the rest is all experience. Listen to other music, compare it to yours - really pick apart the sounds and try to hear all the layers they have in. colonp - I'll give you that, it's the fattest track i've done in a long time. I dont mean fat like ph either, fat like 'theres shitloads going on' It was supposed to be a bit atonal and hectic, but theres a very fine line between that and sounding good and making a complete mess of it. I think i'm going to have a go at remixing it myself soon, clean it up, make it nice and presentable.  A friend has sent me all the famous 'jacks house' accapellas, reckon it could make some nice deep house. I know its the amen break of house music but gently caress it. edit: What a loving speech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO9KEKnnlKs&feature=related cubicle gangster fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Nov 26, 2009 |
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Nov 26, 2009 10:22
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Here's a small question for the chiptune enthusiasts.. there's a specific sound that I absolutely love, and it's prominent in some old nes games like guardian legend. Here's an example of it.. the song "These Days" http://www.myspace.com/totallyradd at 1:17-1:19, those 5 notes there. What's going on with that effect, is it called something? I love it.
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The Dentist posted:Here's a small question for the chiptune enthusiasts.. there's a specific sound that I absolutely love, and it's prominent in some old nes games like guardian legend. Here's an example of it.. the song "These Days" http://www.myspace.com/totallyradd at 1:17-1:19, those 5 notes there. What's going on with that effect, is it called something? I love it. It's a very short arpeggio. Trackers have this feature where you can trigger an instrument with an arpeggio effect, which will play it at three different notes in rapid succession, which is, when you have just three channels like on the c-64, the only way you can have some semblance of chords while anything else is playing.
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Nov 26, 2009 19:49
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I really think I may have to buy U-He's new ACE synth.
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squidgee posted:I really think I may have to buy U-He's new ACE synth.
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Looks a lot like ABL Pro edit: This just came in, http://www.native-instruments.com/en/specials/synthsgiving/ wayfinder fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Nov 27, 2009 |
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colonp posted:Live Suite vs Live 8 + Massive? I haven't really toyed with NI's synths yet, downloading demos now.
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I've been playing around with ableton live for a few months and now I'm looking to buy my first midi controller keyboard. For the amount of money I'm willing to spend, I'm wondering what would be more useful: a 25 key controller with a healthy compliment of midi assignable controls, or a 49 key model that's a bit lighter on the midi controls?
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It really depends on your style of playing and comfort. In my view, if you can actually play piano and are used to playing with 2 hands, get the 49, because you'll be so frustrated with the smaller one. You can buy another box with a bunch of knobs on it or a trigger finger if you want pads. If you're just banging out monophonic synth lines, stick with the 25.
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i'm a scrub, but i like more keys because even with one-handed basic synth lines I can play a lot of different octaves to see which one I like best. I usually don't know off the bat, and I would be so annoyed pressing the octave +/- all the time. that's something to think about I guess
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goatmouth posted:i'm a scrub, but i like more keys because even with one-handed basic synth lines I can play a lot of different octaves to see which one I like best. I usually don't know off the bat, and I would be so annoyed pressing the octave +/- all the time. that's something to think about I guess Also 25 isn't enough when you're trying to figure out chords in some keys. Get at least 37 keys.
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goatmouth posted:i'm a scrub, but i like more keys because even with one-handed basic synth lines I can play a lot of different octaves to see which one I like best. I usually don't know off the bat, and I would be so annoyed pressing the octave +/- all the time. that's something to think about I guess If you even have a doubt about it, go for the bigger one. You can always get a second hand midi controller with some faders, pads and pots for cheap as gently caress. So many people get controllers like that, use them in their bedroom for a few months then sell them on. It's easy to upgrade simple controls, but you want better keys you need to replace what you've got. edit: colonp - i'd reccomed the full NI synth pack. I use massive, absynth & fm8 in equal measure, it'd be hard to pick a favourite. cubicle gangster fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Nov 28, 2009 |
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colonp posted:Live Suite vs Live 8 + Massive? I haven't really toyed with NI's synths yet, downloading demos now. I think you'd be a bit short handed if you were only using Massive. Massive and FM8 on the other hand... I have Live 8 + NI Komplete + Reason. I've definitely got enough expression available to me. More than enough. However the fact that Live's integrated synths are so much easier to control (particularly now that I have an APC40) and so much less resource intensive (than Massive in particular) means I probably will end up buying the Live Suite upgrade as soon as I can justify it to myself. However, I would not like to be without FM8. If I were able to pick only one synth it would most likely be FM8, not Massive. Particular since you can use freebies like Asynth and Synth1 to do the things that FM8 doesn't do so well, but you can't really use any freebies I know of to do what FM8 does so well.
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trans fat posted:I really suck at making electronic music. I made what I think is a sufficient beat and a sufficient bassline. What can I do to this track to make it bumpin like the ones you guys make? Just add some Lil' Wayne  
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Only tangentially related to the thread, but this thread accounts for like 50% of my posts and its not really worth starting a new thread, so: I need a new producer name. 1) mezzir's getting stale 2) I use mezzir for everything, from email to my tf2 character to forum names and 2b) I'm getting to the point where I want to start focusing my music and branding it. Not branding in the sense of serious marketing or anything, but ideally I'd want mezzir to have one concrete style or at least semi-cohesive body of work, which at this point it absolutely does not 3) I'm a believer in self-reinvention and this is a good opportunity to do so so: Anyone have any tips on how to go about coming up with something like this or anything? I've been using mezzir since I needed a name to play as playing Whiplash back in like 4th grade and so I hit the keyboard and got mezor and tweaked it so it looked better, so I'm obviously lacking in the coming-up-with-names-for-things department. My only idea so far is a concept I was reading about in a book recently, l'homme moyen. Originally (I believe) more or less a predecessor to homo economicus, the idealized person upon which economists (i'm an econ student) base their models. l'homme moyen (the average man) was supposedly a man that was the median at absolutely everything. Median income, median hair length, median toenail length, median music preferences, and thus to me seems like half the most boring and uninteresting person in the world, and yet also in a bizarre sense, kind of perfect seeing as many people (myself included) tend to define themselves at least in part by their flaws, which this mythical person would have absolutely none of. Really cool concept to me but then again in the world of self-promotion, naming yourself after something decidedly average might not be the best idea. Any ideas anyone?
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I just use my real name. I don't think you can go wrong with just using your name. l'homme moyen is not a good name for a producer, because it's hard to pronounce that word reading it and I don't think people will know how to spell it if they hear it. This would gently caress you. Internet, etc.
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Aaaaaaand two random sketches 
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Any opinions on the little phatty? Virus TI?
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Afro Thunder posted:Any opinions on the little phatty? Virus TI? My suggestion is neither; build a eurorack system. It's not as expensive as you might think, and you can get sounds out of it that are completely unique to you and your system.
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OMGWTFAOLBBQ posted:I've owned and used a LP, and currently own and use a Virus TI. The Virus is a loving beast, it's widely regarded as one of the nicest synths around. The only con is that it's digital... if you really care about that kind of thing. Personally I don't. I have a Voyager also and that was why I got rid of the LP, but in my opinion the LP is overpriced for what it is. From what I've read the top synths are: Virus TI / Roland X6 / Triton XL. From the youtube videos (not sure how accurate they are) the Little Phatty just seems like it has outdated synths that don't sound impressive at all, but then again most people who put youtube videos up are people that beginners and just want to show off what they have. I'm leaning towards the Virus TI because all the videos I've seen of it are pretty good. I know I'm basing all of this off youtube videos, but if a idiot can make a Virus TI sound pretty good it has a strong selling point. The eurorack system seems complicated, and google searches just bring up websites that look like they were designed in 1996 
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Afro Thunder posted:From what I've read the top synths are: Virus TI / Roland X6 / Triton XL. http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.com/product/Access-Virus-TI-Snow?sku=703138 http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.com/product/Access-Virus-TI2-Desktop?sku=580578 Here's a written article from Sound on Sound on the Snow: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug08/articles/tisnow.htm Here's a great video review of the Snow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWV3N7TOVjc I recommend this synthesizer in any form. edit: Well I was going to go to sleep, but now I'm going to be up all night messing with my Virus... OMGWTFAOLBBQ fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Dec 1, 2009 |
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So I could use my Akai MPK61 and run it through Midi through either the Snow or Desktop? I'm leaning towards the snow because I'm still a beginner and I don't really feel I could take advantage of everything the Desktop offers for awhile.
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Afro Thunder posted:So I could use my Akai MPK61 and run it through Midi through either the Snow or Desktop? I'm leaning towards the snow because I'm still a beginner and I don't really feel I could take advantage of everything the Desktop offers for awhile.
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Afro Thunder posted:From what I've read the top synths are: Virus TI / Roland X6 / Triton XL.  .There are no "top synths". The Triton has been long replaced by the Korg M3, and above that there's the OASYS. The Roland Fantom X6 has been replaced by the G6 (or 7 or 8, only difference is in the size and the keyboard). The TI now has a TI2. Also, it's kind of weird to ignore stuff like the Yamaha Motif XS and the Kurzweil PC3x or whatever they have nowadays. Thing is, while the Roland and Korg are somewhat comparable, the Virus is something completely different. The Roland, Korg and Yamaha are sample-playback synthesizers; they are essentially a giant dongle with a decent sample library with lots of variety. If you put these against dedicated libraries for grand pianos or orchestral sounds (think Vienna Symphonic) they kind of get pounded in the dust, simply because of the gigabytes involved (VSL is huge). On the other hand, they don't require a computer and this means you only have to lug one box on stage - plus, the keyboard quality is actually pretty good (controllers have keyboards that feel poor and cheap compared to these things). The Virus is an analog modeling synthesizer. It won't give you realistic sounds at all; it might have some organ or string sounds on board that sound somewhat convincing, but those are the exception, not the norm. In other words, they're not "top synthesizers" if you want realistic sounds. On the other hand, the Fantom/Motif etc. aren't "top synthesizers" if you want purely synthetic sounds. The more you try to cram into a single box for a set price, the more likely you are to end up with a laptop. It's really a jack of all trades, master of none kind of deal in some cases. quote:From the youtube videos (not sure how accurate they are) the Little Phatty just seems like it has outdated synths that don't sound impressive at all quote:but then again most people who put youtube videos up are people that beginners and just want to show off what they have. There is no choice between a Little Phatty and a Virus TI, because you'd be comparing apples and rhinos. One is a classic monosynth, the other's a do-it-all-DSP-based machine. One aims at simplicity, the other at complexity. One doesn't need a PC, the other will offer lots of benefits if you integrate it with a computer-based setup because you won't be diving through the menus for ages. If you're looking for modern dance sounds and actually want to play chords - get the Virus. The difference between a TI and a Virus B/C is huge; the difference between a Virus B and a C isn't that big. The Snow won't have shitloads of knobs to tweak, but will give you half of the TI's power in a nice and compact box. Laserjet 4P fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Dec 1, 2009 |
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This track isn't done, but I'm very happy with it so far. http://soundcloud.com/kevinrothi/string-theory
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Yoozer posted:Stuff I'm mostly looking for something can give me a modern dance sound. So far the Virus looks like its the best one at accomplishing that. I looked at the other models you mentioned, and the Virus still seems like the best way to go.
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Afro Thunder posted:I'm mostly looking for something can give me a modern dance sound. So far the Virus looks like its the best one at accomplishing that. I looked at the other models you mentioned, and the Virus still seems like the best way to go. What qualifies the Virus as better?
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melee beats posted:What qualifies the Virus as better? Afro Thunder: Have you checked out the DSI Poly Evolver? It's a bit more limited than Virus but it sounds amazing and it's got LOADS of LEDs. Or if you don't need to play chords the Moog Voyager is absolutely RIDICULOUS for bass and leads and is available in many stylish backlight color/woodgrain combinations. Actually DSI Tetra + Waldorf Blofeld would be a really cost-effective and versatile combo if you've got a MIDI controller already. Meatsplosion fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Dec 2, 2009 |
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I want a Voyager so bad The pitch bend and mod wheels are so nice
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Meatsplosion posted:Waldorf Blofeld
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OMGWTFAOLBBQ posted:I had this synth. I sold it almost immediately. I can't stand this synthesizer, I'd rather use a VST.
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melee beats posted:What qualifies the Virus as better? Trent Reznor uses it In all seriousness though, when I was looking at keyboards at Guitar Center it was the only one that stood out to me personally. The DSI Tetra sounds pretty good though form what I'm looking at now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJLhJQ8jz_8
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Afro Thunder posted:I'm mostly looking for something can give me a modern dance sound. So far the Virus looks like its the best one at accomplishing that. I looked at the other models you mentioned, and the Virus still seems like the best way to go. I absolutely love my Snow - it's a great synth. It sounds fantastic, integrates really well with my DAW, has heaps of synthesis parameters, and takes a lot of the workload off my CPU  I've got a fairly broad selection of synth plugins on my computer, but the Virus is generally my 'go-to' synth. Synths like Sylenth1 and Massive are fantastic, but they have disadvantages - e.g. Sylenth1 sounds great, but the interface blows, the modulation options are lacking, and some of the built in FX are a bit gash. Likewise, Massive sounds fantastic, but it's a ridiculous resource hog. Virus Control ticks all the boxes, though (IMO, at least). If you can justify the cost, then a Snow is a nice piece of kit to get.
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You guys! Can you please listen to a track i made and maybe give some tips on how to improve it? You can stream it from http://u.nu/9ed44 Thank you!
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wayfinder posted:You guys! Can you please listen to a track i made and maybe give some tips on how to improve it? You can stream it from http://u.nu/9ed44 Goddamn, this is really well done. I was gonna say file this poo poo in your portfolio, until I hit that distorted bassy breakdown. I dont really like it at all. It sounds ok once the rest of the elements kick back in, I suppose, but I really do not like it on its own. Others may like it though, so you may just as well ignore this. Next track, keep going never ever stop. All you other fags better listen to this poo poo, its quality
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wayfinder posted:You guys! Can you please listen to a track i made and maybe give some tips on how to improve it? You can stream it from http://u.nu/9ed44 Pretty good track, but I agree with the poster about the breakdown needs to be re-tooled it sounds too out of place with the song.
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