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Blackmage Yapo
Mar 27, 2008

Odin You Sad I Have
All The SPP
Wow, I am honestly impressed by the amount of fuckery contained in all those attempted towing videos. Lets tie ropes to the first place we come too! Oh, and I know, lets try to get as far away as possible from the important bits just because we can!

Also just read most of this thread, and the thing that pisses me off most about H2/3 is that their owner's cant be bothered to remove the stock D-ring so it just sits there flapping about.

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BatDan
Apr 30, 2003

I work for a facility that repair aircraft turbine engine components. We recently received in a part for overhaul that is damaged a little more than usual. This is a turbine exhaust case from a Pratt & Whitney JT8D-200 turbine engine. An important requirement of these engine cases is to contain the pieces of the engine in case of failure.


Skyssx
Feb 2, 2001

by T. Fine

BatDan posted:

An important requirement of these engine cases is to contain the pieces of the engine in case of failure.

Because some person must be found at fault. Mechanical failure is never the issue. Say J.D. Smith worked on some bearings 300 hours ago. Those bearings shot out and ruined the whole engine. Therefore, it was J.D. Smith's fault.

I'm just bitter. I had 4 years of flawless maintenance on aircraft, which is just as much luck as skill. I saw plenty of good people hosed by the system in that time though.

So who ruined that turbine?

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.


Wow, that's a lot funnier than the last 5 times someone did that.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Skyssx posted:

Because some person must be found at fault. Mechanical failure is never the issue. Say J.D. Smith worked on some bearings 300 hours ago. Those bearings shot out and ruined the whole engine. Therefore, it was J.D. Smith's fault.
Hmm, for our nonconformance reports, human error is never an acceptable root cause. You can have lack of training, lack of instruction, insufficiently robust system of working, whatever, but never "Inbred Jed just hosed up, sorry".

LOO
Mar 5, 2004

BatDan posted:

I work for a facility that repair aircraft turbine engine components. We recently received in a part for overhaul that is damaged a little more than usual. This is a turbine exhaust case from a Pratt & Whitney JT8D-200 turbine engine. An important requirement of these engine cases is to contain the pieces of the engine in case of failure.





In the Air Force I saw a J57-59W that had a No. 1 bearing failure. You could look in the inlet and see light coming in the tailpipe. The N1 compressor was laying in the front compressor case.

apatite
Dec 2, 2006

Got yer back, Jack

Nothing too bad compared to some, but here are a few from my truck:

Toyota 22R


Click here for the full 618x508 image.


This timing chain crank sprocket had less than 2k miles on it and it just GRENADED


Click here for the full 735x676 image.


Yeah that little guy shouldn't have a gap... Thanks, "top of the line" crank sprocket from above..




Broken lunchbox locker chunks





Skyssx
Feb 2, 2001

by T. Fine

InitialDave posted:

Hmm, for our nonconformance reports, human error is never an acceptable root cause. You can have lack of training, lack of instruction, insufficiently robust system of working, whatever, but never "Inbred Jed just hosed up, sorry".

AAI and Northrop Grumman will blame a service member 100% of the time. "There's no oil in this plane! The crew chief is at fault!" Yeah, because the plane crashed upside down, cracked the oil tank and then laid in a field that way for two hours. Of course there's no oil left in the tank! rear end.

And they were UAVs, too. So there was no loss of life and max payout was under 1 million. Every loving time, "oh it was the soldier".

Speaking of Gross Mechanical Failures and Pictures in This Thread:

Click here for the full 2048x1365 image.


This one was the "mechanical failure" of the carbon fiber wings to contain 44 liters of 100LL upon impact with a concrete barrier at 70 KIAS.

90% Pilot, 10% Crew Chief error. The pilot left the aircraft in "sticks" mode, used during pre-flight, and pegged the throttle instead of hitting the "Auto Launch" button. The CC was 10% at fault, because going max throttle in sticks and hitting auto launch make slightly different noises.

Anyway, it went off the launcher rail at 70 KIAS. Max throttle, zero flaps, zero ailerons, zero rudder, full pitch down. The pilot realized his mistake and tried to get it into auto launch, but the plane just followed a perfect arc and impacted a 30' chainlink fence and concrete barrier wall 600m downrange.

BatDan
Apr 30, 2003

Skyssx posted:

So who ruined that turbine?

We are not an engine shop, we just get in engine components to repair. We get the frustrating job of weld repairing and heat treating crack prone engine cases. If I recall correctly this particular case is from Delta Airlines.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Tomarse posted:

Where are brake discs used on ships?

I'd like to see some oversized mechanical porn too!

Well, this should float you boat nicely then.


Sexual Lorax
Mar 17, 2004

HERE'S TO FUCKING


Fun Shoe

Gorilla Salad posted:



Whenever I see pictures like that, I imagine tiny people working on a normal size engine, all covered in oil and swearing at each other in high squeaky voices.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Sexual Lorax posted:

Whenever I see pictures like that, I imagine tiny people working on a normal size engine, all covered in oil and swearing at each other in high squeaky voices.

Moties.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
Input shaft gear failure that also wrecked the countershaft on a ZF 5-speed mated to a Ford 460:



How? I don't know. I bought the truck knowing the trans was bad, although I'm sure the PO's running it dry (!) didn't help.

drzrma
Dec 29, 2008

Tomarse posted:

Where are brake discs used on ships?

I'd like to see some oversized mechanical porn too!

They are used to slow the shaft so you can go from forward to reverse. Some ships, generally very small ones, have transmissions like your normal boat. Anything bigger than that is going to use a direct reversing engine, which changes the cam timing and runs in reverse. Steamships have a reverse turbine, which is a smaller turbine that can be engaged through a clutch, I haven't got a loving clue what they do with gas turbine driven stuff.

The problem with both of those is that the propeller and the main engine/turbine are basically directly linked, there is no neutral, you don't get reverse until you bring everything to a halt so you can get it moving in the other direction. Shaft brakes are the solution to this, though it still takes loving forever if things are tense.

There are other ways things are done, Z drives, variable pitch propellers, but these are expensive to scale up and usually reserved for smaller ships that are specifically designed for small ports and confined spaces.

Ninja edit: I'll try and bug my Dad for some pictures. Nothing I worked on ever hosed up bad enough to bother taking pictures of, he had some good ones. Steam turbine blade through a 10" I beam comes to mind, along with an economizer fire.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Is someone going to start an 'oversized mechanical porn' thread or do I have to go snapping pics at work tomorrow & do it myself?

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!

Cakefool posted:

Is someone going to start an 'oversized mechanical porn' thread or do I have to go snapping pics at work tomorrow & do it myself?

Yes. I'll even sticky it for 2 days out of the kindness of my wallet.

Used Sunlight sales
Jun 5, 2006

Warfighter Approved

drzrma posted:

I haven't got a loving clue what they do with gas turbine driven stuff.
you answer your own question good sir.

drzrma posted:

There are other ways things are done, Z drives, variable pitch propellers, but these are expensive to scale up and usually reserved for smaller ships that are specifically designed for small ports and confined spaces.
Controllable reversible pitch propellers is what the Navy uses on gas turbine ships.

All run hydraulically. The whole system is pretty amazing, lots of hydraulic fuckery with stationary AND rotational bits.

drzrma
Dec 29, 2008

Used Sunlight sales posted:

you answer your own question good sir.

Controllable reversible pitch propellers is what the Navy uses on gas turbine ships.

All run hydraulically. The whole system is pretty amazing, lots of hydraulic fuckery with stationary AND rotational bits.

This makes perfect sense when I take a moment and think small ships + unlimited budget.

I really wish gas turbines weren't so godawful expensive, because they are :awesome: . Not really thread appropriate, other than the amazing pictures they generate when they gently caress up.

frozenphil
Mar 13, 2003

YOU CANNOT MAKE A MISTAKE SO BIG THAT 80 GRIT CAN'T FIX IT!
:smug:

joat mon posted:

Input shaft gear failure that also wrecked the countershaft on a ZF 5-speed mated to a Ford 460:



How? I don't know. I bought the truck knowing the trans was bad, although I'm sure the PO's running it dry (!) didn't help.

Really? You have no idea how a transmission that dies behind the torque of a stock 302 died behind a 460? Those input shafts are notorious. Bob Cosby went through a couple dozen during his run for the championship in NMRA Factory Stock with his '99 Cobra making all of 350hp.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Cakefool posted:

Is someone going to start an 'oversized mechanical porn' thread or do I have to go snapping pics at work tomorrow & do it myself?

Oil cooler pumps.


Turbines.

Terminus Est
Sep 30, 2005


Motorcycle Miliitia


Wind Turbine Destruction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nSB1SdVHqQ

a real chump
Jul 30, 2003

noice
Nap Ghost
In the vein of large machinery porn I saw this on Jalop

http://www.heavy-equipment-calendar.com/order-calendar

Purple Haze PS3
Jul 21, 2007

ijustam posted:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1281659 :gonk:

Guy with a BMW doesn't change his oil for 60,000 miles. Pictures include aftermath.

How does something like this affect the longevity of an engine? I'm sure it would fail sooner, but do you think he would get less than half the life of a well maintained engine?

BloodBag
Sep 20, 2008

WITNESS ME!



-Spiffy- posted:

In the vein of large machinery porn I saw this on Jalop

http://www.heavy-equipment-calendar.com/order-calendar

I like how they HDR every picture to poo poo to make real equipment look very video-gamey. :eng99:

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Purple Haze PS3 posted:

How does something like this affect the longevity of an engine? I'm sure it would fail sooner, but do you think he would get less than half the life of a well maintained engine?
Years ago, one of the bike mags had an article on someone who ran a CBR with zero maintenance for years, until it eventually died. At main dealer prices, they found it was more economical to gently caress an engine and rebuild it than to follow the full schedule, but that doesn't allow for hassle or doing your own servicing or getting an independent mechanic, which is obviously way cheaper.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

joat mon posted:

Input shaft gear failure that also wrecked the countershaft on a ZF 5-speed mated to a Ford 460

frozenphil posted:

Really? You have no idea how a transmission that dies behind the torque of a stock 302 died behind a 460? Those input shafts are notorious. Bob Cosby went through a couple dozen during his run for the championship in NMRA Factory Stock with his '99 Cobra making all of 350hp.

Bob Cosby thinks he broke 5 using a T45 in 2001:

quote:

Who's broke their stock input shaft launching on slicks? Who hasn't
12-27-2006, 10:29 AM
Never busted one on launch. However, in 2001, I broke five (5) T45 input shafts on BFG DRs. Three of them on the 3/4 shift. 2 of them on the 2/3 shift.

I sent the broken input shafts to TTC (the folks that make Tremec Trannies), and they summized that I was doing the damage to the input shafts on launch, and they were then snapping on the shifts into the higher gears.
__________________
Bob Cosby, USN (Retired)

99 Cobra
2005 Harley FXDWG Dyna Wide Glide
http://forums.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=866236

Also, I don't think the ZFs were stock for Mustangs, and the NMRA Factory Stock class rules in general seem to be pretty strict that only stock parts are allowed.
As for specifics,

quote:

2.12a) PERMITTED MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS:
Tremec T5, Tremec T45, Tremec T56, Tremec TR3550, Tremec TR3650, Tremec TKO, Tremec TKO-500, TKO-600, & Tremec TKOII.
http://www.stangcrazy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=468

And (although I don't know squat about drag racing) wouldn't a 5.72 first gear be too low?

On the other hand, there's a Ford Wrecker in my area that makes exactly the same sound as my transmission made.

As to how the input shaft failed, I was wondering about the immediate cause - a dumped clutch, a hard pull with too heavy a load, etc. or was it just too many miles with too much torque and too little lubrication?

As to how generally, the first owner had installed a Banks Powerpack that Banks says adds 95 ft-lbs, so the truck was capable of sending 485 ft-lbs through a transmission rated for 420. (He removed the powerpack before he sold the truck to owner #2)

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

drzrma posted:

The problem with both of those is that the propeller and the main engine/turbine are basically directly linked, there is no neutral, you don't get reverse until you bring everything to a halt so you can get it moving in the other direction. Shaft brakes are the solution to this

This is where you slam it into reverse right away and then the shaft is broken amiright? :downsrim:

Jethro
Jun 1, 2000

I was raised on the dairy, Bitch!

Splizwarf posted:

This is where you slam it into reverse right away and then the shaft is broken amiright? :downsrim:
Your kidding, write? Their is know weigh ewe donut no the difference between break and brake.

INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
What?

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Automotive Insanity: Breaks have braked, to broak to fix >

Dave Inc.
Nov 26, 2007
Let's have a drink!

Ola posted:

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Automotive Insanity: Breaks have braked, to broak to fix >

I refuse on grounds of it being damaging to my psyche to read that sentence every time I come here.

AbsentMindedWelder
Mar 26, 2003

It must be the fumes.
This is what happens when your rear engine mount is bad, and the engine puts strain on your drive axles... Your transmission blows up!

This came off of my '94 Mazda MX6.


Click here for the full 600x800 image.

Wobert
Feb 4, 2002

Not so much as a mechanical failure, but a failure of proper procedure and possible failure of safety components leading to a fire, and susquent drilling rig collapse near Ames, Kansas. I haven't heard exact word on what caused this, but the derrickman, the one at the top of the derrick maneuvering stands of drill pipe, died in the blast.











quote:

Oil rig collapse kills 1
By Cass Rains, Staff Writer

A Kansas man was killed and another injured when an oil rig collapsed Saturday east of Ames.

Major County Sheriff’s Office responded to the accident a half mile east of town at 7:35 a..m. Ames
Fire Department and Major County Ambulance also responded.

Deputy Nick Holdeman said Gabriel Ovalle Tellez, 31, of Liberal, Kan., was killed. David Gonzalez,
of Hugoton, Kan., suffered a broken leg and other injuries and was taken by ambulance to Integris
Bass Baptist Health Center. Holdeman said Gonzalez was in good condition.

Holdeman said Tom Cat Drilling crew members hit total depth on the drilling rig and lost
circulation about 5:45 a.m. He said they were told to pull pipe out of the hole, and about 25
minutes later the rig collapsed.

The deputy said it appears to be an accident, and he will forward his investigation to Oklahoma
Occupa-tional Safety and Health Administra-tion, which will investigate. Tom Cat, of Wichita, Kan.,
had contacted the state agency, Holdeman said.

Crew members remained at the site hours later, and Holdeman said they were “pretty shaken up.”

“They had been friends for a long time,” he said..

When asked if she heard anything, a nearby resident said she had heard noise all night from the
drilling site.

“They were pretty busy,” said the woman, who did not wish to give her name.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Crank goes kaboom!



Muffinpox
Sep 7, 2004

2ndclasscitizen posted:

Crank goes kaboom!





When I have kids, if they say they hosed up my car and showed me this I would make a trophy mantle for it.

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!
What kind of engine is it that the piston rods have ball bearings in them?

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
GSX1100. Happened flat at as well (probably pushing 250km/h).

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





2ndclasscitizen posted:

GSX1100. Happened flat at as well (probably pushing 250km/h).

Jesus. I imagine the rider's nomex underwear came back browner than before, too.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

IOwnCalculus posted:

Jesus. I imagine the rider's nomex underwear came back browner than before, too.

I imagine so. If bike racers wore nomex underwear.

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Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!

2ndclasscitizen posted:

I imagine so. If bike racers wore nomex underwear.

If I had nearly 200 angry HP between my thighs I certainly would.

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