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Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

Zorak posted:

I think this is the second LOGH themed subforum name I've done for ADTRW and i dont care
Excellent, just noticed this. :v:

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AzraelNewtype
Nov 9, 2004

「ブレストバーン!!」

Anonymous-san posted:

Oh my God I am so glad this thread still exists. I just marathoned the gently caress out of this show in about two weeks, and I'm having a hard time gathering up the gumption to watch the two movies because I don't want my LoGH experience to end ;____;

The first movie takes place before the series, the second is basically the first two episodes expanded. For all intents and purposes, you're done with that stuff.

Happy Happyist
Jul 23, 2007

I need your assistance to make the world blue and change it into a happy and peaceful society.

cyberbug posted:

Lohengramm may himself be a brilliant benevolent despot, but his answer to what happens if his successor turns out to be a dickhead was that then it will just be the Lohengramm dynasty's turn to go. Great, it took 500 years to get rid of the previous dynasty and even then it was just replaced with another one! I guess he thought that if people aren't smart enough to overthrow their goverment, they deserve everything they get?

Reinhard answered this himself: After his son was born he said he was only going to be Kaiser if he was the best man for the job. If someone was smart or powerful enough to overthrow him, then so be it.

sensual benny
Aug 18, 2008

Anonymous-san posted:

Oh my God I am so glad this thread still exists. I just marathoned the gently caress out of this show in about two weeks, and I'm having a hard time gathering up the gumption to watch the two movies because I don't want my LoGH experience to end ;____;

Don't forget all the Gaiden episodes! They tell some prequel stories about Reinhard's, Kircheis's, and Yang's rise to fame, and altogether it's about 2 more seasons worth of content. They're really good too!

Kircheis
Aug 14, 2007
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
I first watched LOGH back in the late 90s when I found it in my college anime club's VHS library. Back then, Central Anime had worked on subtitling it - but they ended after 42 episodes. So I had to wait almost a *decade* until they started releasing them as digital fansubs and I could finally watch the end of the series.

I should go and watch it all again from the beginning since I forgot some of the plot points due to watching it with big gaps between chunks of the show.

Anonymous-san
Dec 1, 2004
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sensual benny posted:

Don't forget all the Gaiden episodes! They tell some prequel stories about Reinhard's, Kircheis's, and Yang's rise to fame, and altogether it's about 2 more seasons worth of content. They're really good too!

Yeah, I already finished up gaiden .( I hear there's a second OAV series but that it hasn't been fully translated yet. So I'm just going to keep procrastinating until that comes out. Until then anime is dead.

also oh god Kircheis ;____________;

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


Anonymous-san posted:

Yeah, I already finished up gaiden .( I hear there's a second OAV series but that it hasn't been fully translated yet. So I'm just going to keep procrastinating until that comes out. Until then anime is dead.

also oh god Kircheis ;____________;

I hope this is true, because there really needs to be more LOGH. It should never end--or the people who made it need to do something equally good (ie NOT Tytania).

KlavoHunter
Aug 4, 2006
"Intelligence indicates that our enemy is using giant cathedral ships. Research divison reports that we can adapt this technology for our use. Begin researching giant cathedral ships immediately."
The violence in Tytania is so sanitized. LoGH wasn't afraid to show us what happens to the poor bastards inside of a ship when it gets blown up, people bled profusely when they were shot or hacked apart. In Tytania, someone gets shot like 100 times by laser rifles, and his corpse is in perfect condition

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

I could deal with all that if it actually went somewhere. It's a normal dumb space anime, OK, but it felt like all we got was an extended intro to several more seasons that aren't coming.

Vir
Dec 14, 2007

Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?
I dropped Tytania because the soldiers in it were so bloody useless - I mean, Stormtroopers would have won against these guys in a day. It's not interesting when the plot is the driver rather than the result of the characters' actions.

Zorak
Nov 7, 2005
Guess what's outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deEYnYfXP2g

BLURAYS gently caress YEAH

No idea when we'll see subs transferred onto them (Central Anime is slowwwww)

Zorak fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Dec 20, 2009

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan

Zorak posted:

Guess what's outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deEYnYfXP2g

BLURAYS gently caress YEAH

No idea when we'll see subs transferred onto them (Central Anime is slowwwww)

Okay, how much would something like that even cost? First, you take into account that this is a 110 episode long series. Then you take into account that it's on Blu Ray disc. Then you account for the fact that the Japanese like the jack up the price of their series. I mean, I'm trying to wrap my head around how much something like that would cost, and I'm seeing Blu Ray Box 1, which only has episodes 1-26, costing the equivalent of $560. All 110 episodes, you're looking at well over $2000, easy. That's frightening. There is no wonder why they'll never bring this show to the states.

Edit: Oh my god. According to this, Box 2 will be $653, and boxes three and four will be over $700. Adding them all up, you're looking at over $2600 for the entire series.

Mecha Gojira fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Dec 20, 2009

Kircheis
Aug 14, 2007
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.

Doctor Alien posted:

Okay, how much would something like that even cost? First, you take into account that this is a 110 episode long series. Then you take into account that it's on Blu Ray disc. Then you account for the fact that the Japanese like the jack up the price of their series. I mean, I'm trying to wrap my head around how much something like that would cost, and I'm seeing Blu Ray Box 1, which only has episodes 1-26, costing the equivalent of $560. All 110 episodes, you're looking at well over $2000, easy. That's frightening. There is no wonder why they'll never bring this show to the states.

Edit: Oh my god. According to this, Box 2 will be $653, and boxes three and four will be over $700. Adding them all up, you're looking at over $2600 for the entire series.

If I remember correctly, that's about what the DVD set went for when it came out back around 2001 or 2002. They had a form up on their website to try to gauge American fans' reaction to the show, and said they'd bring it out in America if 1500 people signed up and promised they would buy it.

They were going to sell it at a discount in America at a bargain price of only $1,925. They talked about it at the fan panel at Anime Expo in 2003 that I was at; here's a link to a report about that panel:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/convention/2003/anime-expo/8

That was the same panel that I first heard about a new show that he was working on - Tytania. Since it took about 5 years to come out I figured it had been cancelled.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Kircheis posted:

They had a form up on their website to try to gauge American fans' reaction to the show, and said they'd bring it out in America if 1500 people signed up and promised they would buy it.

They were going to sell it at a discount in America at a bargain price of only $1,925. They talked about it at the fan panel at Anime Expo in 2003 that I was at; here's a link to a report about that panel:

Their marketing strategies are so hilarious and cute. But sad at the same time.

Vir
Dec 14, 2007

Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?
DVDs in Japan are so hilariously expensive that one of the reasons why anime takes a while to come to the US is that they don't want Japanese customers to import US DVDs to Japan - because they'd save money on that.

I have to ask though - does LoGH really benefit in any way from Blue Ray resolution?

AzraelNewtype
Nov 9, 2004

「ブレストバーン!!」

Vir posted:

I have to ask though - does LoGH really benefit in any way from Blue Ray resolution?

Nobody knows yet.

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


Doctor Alien posted:

Okay, how much would something like that even cost? First, you take into account that this is a 110 episode long series. Then you take into account that it's on Blu Ray disc. Then you account for the fact that the Japanese like the jack up the price of their series. I mean, I'm trying to wrap my head around how much something like that would cost, and I'm seeing Blu Ray Box 1, which only has episodes 1-26, costing the equivalent of $560. All 110 episodes, you're looking at well over $2000, easy. That's frightening. There is no wonder why they'll never bring this show to the states.

Edit: Oh my god. According to this, Box 2 will be $653, and boxes three and four will be over $700. Adding them all up, you're looking at over $2600 for the entire series.

Realistically, how many sets do they expect to sell at $2600? I can't imagine too many people would have the disposable cash for that.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 15 hours!

Georgia Peach posted:

Needs more Juche.



And what exciting exports can you find from the DPRK?



Zorak
Nov 7, 2005

TenementFunster posted:



thats it

the final line has been crossed

Honest Ray
Feb 10, 2007

Your bargaining posture is highly dubious.
Is it just me or is Reinhard doing the :3: while ships are blowing up in the background?

sensual benny
Aug 18, 2008
Its just you.

Vir
Dec 14, 2007

Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?
Some of the inbetween animation in some anime series is contracted out to South Korea and China, but they usually won't contract out the keyframe animation - and certainly not to North Korea.

Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

LOGH Overture to a New War - Central Anime

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

Aw, hell yeah!

Tzen
Sep 11, 2001

GojiraYoda posted:

Edit: Oh my god. According to this, Box 2 will be $653, and boxes three and four will be over $700. Adding them all up, you're looking at over $2600 for the entire series.
Holy gently caress. I was considering buying the series but $2600 total? Holy gently caress.

KlavoHunter
Aug 4, 2006
"Intelligence indicates that our enemy is using giant cathedral ships. Research divison reports that we can adapt this technology for our use. Begin researching giant cathedral ships immediately."

That was amazing.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

Honest Ray posted:

Is it just me or is Reinhard doing the :3: while ships are blowing up in the background?

Well to be fair they ARE alliance ships.

Gary Mitchell
Apr 3, 2007

Morals are for men, not gods.

KlavoHunter posted:

That was amazing.
Did you notice that not once, but twice the Alliance lost an entire carrier of Spartanians thanks to one loving Valkyrie?

I love sci-fi without shields!

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

Gary Mitchell posted:

Did you notice that not once, but twice the Alliance lost an entire carrier of Spartanians thanks to one loving Valkyrie?

I love sci-fi without shields!

There have shields they are only effective at super long range though, to keep off pot shots.

Vir
Dec 14, 2007

Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?
Wonder if it might be lazy writing when extending the length of the battle.

It was nice to see more of the behind-the-scenes machinations going on, but since I remember how and why the battle went the way it did, I felt a bit like I did when watching Babylon 5: In the Beginning - no dramatic tension because we all know what happens, and the action scenes and other extra scenes weren't engaging enough to distract from that.

I what I enjoyed the most was the part of the episode which was just music - the day/evening of the engagement. That was nice.

DamnGlitch
Sep 2, 2004

Vir posted:

Wonder if it might be lazy writing when extending the length of the battle.

It was nice to see more of the behind-the-scenes machinations going on, but since I remember how and why the battle went the way it did, I felt a bit like I did when watching Babylon 5: In the Beginning - no dramatic tension because we all know what happens, and the action scenes and other extra scenes weren't engaging enough to distract from that.

I what I enjoyed the most was the part of the episode which was just music - the day/evening of the engagement. That was nice.

I doubt it was lazy writing, or rather, I'm not sure that writing was really intended to be the highlight of it. Rather "Hey remember that short rear end battle from the beginning of the show? Wanna see it with a loving onscreen set up and lots of money thrown into the animation budget? Me too!"

KlavoHunter
Aug 4, 2006
"Intelligence indicates that our enemy is using giant cathedral ships. Research divison reports that we can adapt this technology for our use. Begin researching giant cathedral ships immediately."

Gary Mitchell posted:

Did you notice that not once, but twice the Alliance lost an entire carrier of Spartanians thanks to one loving Valkyrie?

I love sci-fi without shields!

You say that despite when Yang's flagship went nose-to-nose with the Krunten, and they showed them exchanging main gun fire, and shields repelling it.

The reason that entire carriers went up to the Valkyries is because they failed to give the order to launch the Spartanians soon enough.

Rampager
Sep 15, 2007

:roboluv:allow me to buy
you a drink, miss
:roboluv:
I felt like with all this completely understandable praise I, too, would begin watching LoGH.

I went through all 110 episodes in about two weeks (I love Uni vacations) and holy poo poo that was the most enjoyable, man-tear jerking, thrilling series I've ever loving seen. Everything was so god drat well done. (big)The whole Reuental Rebellion seemed a tad far-fetched but passable. "The Wulf der Storm is crying" loving drat right he is, poor Mittermeyer you glorious bastard. The scene between Reinhard and Mittermeyer where Reinhard demands that Mittermeyer doesn't die was great, the whole thing was loving fantastic I could go on and on about every episode and how brilliant it was. From the BBW porn in the history episodes to the down-right violent depiction of a man's intestines flowing out of his chest to the awesome bantering on the Alliance side and (hugely minor)Eisenach talking (didn't have this spoilered to begin with but it counts!) brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

Now what the gently caress do I watch? There's the Gaiden episodes but what do I do after that? Cry in a ditch I think.

Rampager fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Jan 23, 2010

Heran Bago
Aug 18, 2006



Rampager posted:

Now what the gently caress do I watch? There's the Gaiden episodes but what do I do after that? Cry in a ditch I think.

There's the spiral labyrinth episodes and a movie too. Then the ditch.

Astroman
Apr 8, 2001


Heran Bago posted:

There's the spiral labyrinth episodes and a movie too. Then the ditch.

I haven't seen all the Gaiden's yet because I can't download torrents for some reason and have to wait for the direct downloads. But so far what I've seen is really, really good.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Overture of a New Battle was definitely very good. I haven't seen the first episodes in a long time (the TVIV simulwatch), but is there anything really specific that it leaves out that might be considered important? A cursory comparison showed only really the conversation between Jessica and Yang at the end of episode 2. Even that might be seen as more powerful in the movie version. Everything else seemed like it was changed for the better.

Looks like my recommendation for order of viewing will now change to the two movies first before the series, and then starting the series at episode 3.

Miles Vorkosigan
Mar 21, 2007

The stuff that dreams are made of.

Nate RFB posted:

Overture of a New Battle was definitely very good. I haven't seen the first episodes in a long time (the TVIV simulwatch), but is there anything really specific that it leaves out that might be considered important?

Not really important, but it didn't have the two guys in the tank beds ("Why would you want real sleep anyways? You'd only have nightmares") and there was a severe lack of Poplan.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

Vir posted:

Wonder if it might be lazy writing when extending the length of the battle.

It was nice to see more of the behind-the-scenes machinations going on, but since I remember how and why the battle went the way it did, I felt a bit like I did when watching Babylon 5: In the Beginning - no dramatic tension because we all know what happens, and the action scenes and other extra scenes weren't engaging enough to distract from that.

I what I enjoyed the most was the part of the episode which was just music - the day/evening of the engagement. That was nice.
Well, I'd say it was more the back scene machinations than for anything else.

The use of "Moonlight Sonata" was nice.

Vir
Dec 14, 2007

Does it tickle when your Body Thetans flap their wings, eh Beatrice?

Miles Vorkosigan posted:

Not really important, but it didn't have the two guys in the tank beds ("Why would you want real sleep anyways? You'd only have nightmares") and there was a severe lack of Poplan.

Yeah I missed those tank bay guys a little bit. I didn't really miss Poplan, except as a way to show that the Spartanians weren't completely useless sitting ducks.

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Go RV!
Jun 19, 2008

Uglier on the inside.

Duelist 1-4

This has been a good week.

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