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Super Ninja Fish posted:If this video is any indication, Cornette may have just cut the same promo if Sean Waltman was in the WWF. Joey styles did exactly that in his worked shoot quitting. Also, there is a reason cornette is no longer hired by the majors. I hope he's doing well in ROH. Gus Sawchuk posted:One of the things that pissed me off the most about WCW around '98 was the crowds. Two guys could be having an amazing match, but if one of the top draws wasn't involved, the crowd would crap all over it. Here is an example of that, which is one of my favorite matches in WCW history. The crowd barely reacts to this match until near the end: I'm not sure if I just saw a very bad or very good match. The commentary was weird though, largely because of them continually saying they wouldn't bother kicking out, and being racist as gently caress. Wazzu fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Jan 28, 2010 |
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Strangely enough GLAAD wasn't annoyed at the Lenny and Lodi angle itself. They felt that it was being used as retaliation by WCW for their complaints over Konnan and Rey's repeated use of the word 'human being' on nitro on the way to the ring. It was the complaints over this that made Turner look closer at the WCW product and put pressure on the booking staff to kill any angle that may be contraversal.
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LividLiquid posted:Wait. A GLAAD rep gave Lenny and Lodi a gravy boat, or Billy and Chuck? Billy and Chuck. If I remember correctly they did it on Good Morning America.
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Skinty McEdger posted:Strangely enough GLAAD wasn't annoyed at the Lenny and Lodi angle itself. They felt that it was being used as retaliation by WCW for their complaints over Konnan and Rey's repeated use of the word 'human being' on nitro on the way to the ring. It was the complaints over this that made Turner look closer at the WCW product and put pressure on the booking staff to kill any angle that may be contraversal. Rey yelling human being? This I need to see.
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Dave... you're hurting me... you human being.
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other miscellaneous dumb poo poo that WCW did over the years. GI Bro: "Hey, we have an african american guy here who was half of a really hot tag team, had an awesome best of seven series with Benoit, and if handled right could be a major and credible main event face. Should we start pushing him to the moon?" "Nah, let's cover him in camo and give him a name that's a cross between a melvin van peebles movie and an action figure" "Mick Foley put my rear end in this seat": While the Fingerpoke Of Doom gets a lot more press, I think this incident might actually be more of an indication of how badly WCW was loving up at this point. Giving away the results of RAW matches was pretty old hat by this point, but it worked best when they spoiled non-events of the "don't bother watching, the champ retains" variety. Spoiling the fact that the exceptionally popular Mick Foley was finally going to win was in effect giving a free ad for WWF and pointing out that their content was more interesting. Rather than saying "something boring will happen, don't bother" it yelled "something fantastic is happening, turn over now!"
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Lamuella posted:GI Bro: "Hey, we have an african american guy here who was half of a really hot tag team, had an awesome best of seven series with Benoit, and if handled right could be a major and credible main event face. Should we start pushing him to the moon?" "Nah, let's cover him in camo and give him a name that's a cross between a melvin van peebles movie and an action figure" That was Booker T's first gimmick in his career (prior to WCW). Now, I'm not sure why they went back to it, but I'd guess Vince Russo was involved.
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Lamuella posted:other miscellaneous dumb poo poo that WCW did over the years. Luckily he did not decide to reuse the idea of him being a slave being led out by a white slave holder.
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CM Junk posted:Dave... you're hurting me... you human being. Dave... you're hurting me... I SAID DID YOU FORGET YOUR SCISSORS?
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I SAID, did you forget your SCISSORS???
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That human being Mick Foley forgot his scissors...THAT'LL put asses in the seats!
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Well, that joke is as dead as Louie Spicolli.
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I know it's overplayed to do the WCW/TNA comparisons but: WCW brought a local radio host into the storyline (Jimmy Hart challenging DJs and facing Mancow on PPV...TWICE if I am not mistaken) TNA brought a local radio host into the storyline (Bubba the Love Sponge being a mediator between Hogan and Jarrett as well as a backstage interviewer) Also a couple other things that sucked about WCW that should get more attention (and might have in this topic already): Riki Rachtman and Spring Breakout (with one exception) DJ Ran Buff Bagwell's "fake" fake matches What happened to the world title immediately after Benoit left the company But WCW had a few diamonds in the rough: The one Spring Breakout with a psychotic young woman who loved David Flair and ended up saving David's rear end at a PPV (DAFFNEY!!!) Anything Norman Smiley did (my personal favorite: Smiley and Ralphus raid a backyard wrestling fed, steal the title with a screwjob, and run like hell) Tank Abbott finding a niche as 3 Count's groupie (the guy seemed to be genuinely loving the gig) I am forgetting many more. I will post them if I can remember.
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TNA also brought in local radio host Danny Bonaduce for a dark match, who WCW had also brought in.
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CVagts posted:Anything Norman Smiley did (my personal favorite: Smiley and Ralphus raid a backyard wrestling fed, steal the title with a screwjob, and run like hell) Oh god i must have this
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CVagts posted:DJ Ran That was the hiphop DJ they had for a while, right? Afilliated with No Limit Solzdierz or whatever they were called?
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Lamuella posted:GI Bro: "Hey, we have an african american guy here who was half of a really hot tag team, had an awesome best of seven series with Benoit, and if handled right could be a major and credible main event face. Should we start pushing him to the moon?" "Nah, let's cover him in camo and give him a name that's a cross between a melvin van peebles movie and an action figure" Stupid and fourth wall breaking. Classic Russo. CVagts posted:DJ Ran
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Volcano Style posted:HOOTIE HOO! I have to admit the "Rap is Crap" song one group came up with as a counter was kinda fun. Bobby Duncum Jr was one, can't remember the rest off the top of my head.
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Volcano Style posted:You forgot to mention that he started using that name because he had lost a feud to a bloated Ahmed Johnson who claimed to have legal ownership of the letter T and that he didn't want to be known as just 'Booker' because 'all the boys in the back would hate him.' I think it was Mark Madden that said that all of the boys in the back would hate him, not Booker himself. Kammat posted:I have to admit the "Rap is Crap" song one group came up with as a counter was kinda fun. Bobby Duncum Jr was one, can't remember the rest off the top of my head. The West Texas Rednecks is who you're thinking of with Bobby Duncum, Barry Windham, Kendall Windham and Curt Hennig, I believe.
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the Rap Is Crap song was awesome. Anyone remember when the World's Greatest Tag Team covered it in their feud with the APA?
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Where is this Bischoff calling Sid out about the scissors video? I completely remember seeing it as a kid on TV.
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DJ Ran reminds me of something else... the Nitro Girls. The Nitro Girls sucked. Yes, pretty girls are a good thing, but multiple cheerleading/dance routines that go on forever during every Nitro are not. I guess they thought they needed some more entertainment when they went to three hour Nitros, but that wasn't really the best choice. When I finally made it to a live Nitro (the first New Blood/scissors show) they had DJ Ran and the Nitro girls, but they kept them to commercial breaks. That makes a whole lot more sense, if they must have things like that. Give the audience something to look at while nothing much is going on, but don't waste TV time on that.
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CortezFantastic posted:Where is this Bischoff calling Sid out about the scissors video? I completely remember seeing it as a kid on TV. It was posted at least twice in this thread.
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DJ Ran, UP IN YOUR AREA~! What a lovely, lovely part of Nitro. Punch McLightning fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jan 29, 2010 |
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DJ Ran had nothing to do with the No Limit Soldiers. He was just a DJ that hyped the crowd during commercials and segued into the Nitro Girls. Before this, though, they kept putting him on goddamn TV where his DJ booth would be covered with SURGE bottles for product placement and he'd just scream "Aight, y'all! Make some NOIIIIIISE!" over and over again. He was loving terrible. Word is, though, after they took him off television and he just played music and poo poo during the ads, he was a pretty good addition to the live show. And the Nitro Girls ruled. gently caress the haters.
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The Nitro girls were good for ratings, shocking as it may sound. And the best SURGE product placement was when they would use a giant SURGE can in hardcore matches.
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I never really thought the Nitro Girls were a problem, especially in the 3 hour show days. There were the occasional extended segments with them but for the most part they were just dancing in the parts of the show where we'd normally be looking at fans or the outside of the arena or the announcers sitting at their desk running down what's coming up next. And I'd rather look at the Nitro Girls than Michael Cole and Jerry Lawler. To that end I thought they were a fine part of the show, that you'd think served a purpose for the live audience during commercial breaks. Cheerleaders may not be high art but this is just wrestling. Its when they got their own extended segments that it got a little tiresome. Then it came close to the uselessness of Kelly Kelly's Extreme Expose. But in small doses as transitions between segments or commercials? You won't see me complaining about hot chicks.
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I just remembered something and have decided to post it itt because if I don't I'll probably forget it forever. In 3rd grade I used to watch WCW on Saturday mornings (It was on at the same time as Tin Tin and I used to flip quickly back to TinTin if I heard my parents coming downstairs because for some reason I thought wrestling was bad and I shouldn't be watching it). I went to school one day and two boys, Reed and Zach (Zach later went on to become my best friend, and in 6th grade, with the attitude era in full swing, we'd have hardcore matches at his farm) were talking about their favourite wrestlers. I said "My favourite wrestler is Sting!" and they laughed in my face and said "haha you watch WCW???" Which is why I switched to the WWF.
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Lucha does nitro girls. I think the nitro girls thing would be perfect for a bunch of the WWE Divas. I think the dumbest thing that I ever remember WCW doing was some Kane knockoff called The Umpire or something. Exact face paint and mannerisms. I think he jobbed to Buff Bagwell on a Nitro/Thunder and was never seen again.
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DannoMack posted:I just remembered something and have decided to post it itt because if I don't I'll probably forget it forever. Of course not soon after the Dungeon of Doom would appear, but still.
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Not sure if this ever got posted, but Dr Death vs Jerry Only in a cage match from Nitro in 1999: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jifupX5YUc An awful gimmick, a celebrity wrestling (although he hit the cross body from the top rope!) and a 3 minute cage match, and they even don't bother calling the escape from the cage. Not to mention they didn't even ring the bell for a good 10 seconds after he got out.
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DannoMack posted:In 3rd grade I used to watch WCW on Saturday mornings (It was on at the same time as Tin Tin and I used to flip quickly back to TinTin if I heard my parents coming downstairs because for some reason I thought wrestling was bad and I shouldn't be watching it). I went to school one day and two boys, Reed and Zach (Zach later went on to become my best friend, and in 6th grade, with the attitude era in full swing, we'd have hardcore matches at his farm) were talking about their favourite wrestlers. what the hell who cares what their names were
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spongeh posted:Not sure if this ever got posted, but Dr Death vs Jerry Only in a cage match from Nitro in 1999: Wasn't that during the time Vampiro kept bouncing back and forth between coming out with the Misfits, ICP and by himself?
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Vampiro sucks. And yes, it was.
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Dylar Addict posted:what the hell who cares what their names were you?
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LividLiquid posted:Vampiro sucks. And yes, it was. I really have no clue why but at the time Vampiro was one of my favorite guys. I think it was mainly a combination of the corpse paint, using the Michinoku Driver and his awesome theme.
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He also used Kong at the Gates by the new Misfits, it's a really great song and is a perfect wrestling theme song, but it would work more for a guy like Kane or Abyss.
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